Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 13:45     Subject: WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:Eh we live with the constant threat of mass shootings because of the gun lobby. Now we’ll live with the constant threat of mugging, rape, assault, and car jacking because of “defund the police” and cancel culture.

We made this bed now we have to lie in it.

Signed,

Someone who was recently mugged and assaulted by a homeless man. No one cares about victims anymore.


I think we have redefined the word "victim"... It's no longer the person on the receiving end of the crime.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 13:43     Subject: WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you live in DC, as I assume most of us do, you're perfectly able to decide whether you're scared of rising crime or not, without needing a newspaper to tell you. No one who is especially worried about crime right now would be swayed by an editorial in the opposite direction, so I don't see why anyone who isn't would be convinced by this editorial.

(This is deliberately without comment on my own feelings on the matter, obviously)


It's sure nice to see it in writing though.

The Post is accessed all over the country (perhaps overseas). At least the tourists are getting a heads up, along with the conference planners and attendees.


It’s a big problem. I’m glad it’s getting coverage.

I own property here and I don’t want fking scumbags driving off all the nice citizens.


crime going up and homeless encampments crowding the nicest parts of the city with very expensive RE isn't going to help keep higher bracket taxpayers in the city. But from what I am hearing crime is spilling into the residential and suburban areas as well. VA has it share of crime increases too judging from Nextdoor posts. Their criminal laws are different though, so we will see who will fare better long term. DC isn't heading in the right direction at the moment. Bowser did pledge to hire more police though.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 13:41     Subject: WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Eh we live with the constant threat of mass shootings because of the gun lobby. Now we’ll live with the constant threat of mugging, rape, assault, and car jacking because of “defund the police” and cancel culture.

We made this bed now we have to lie in it.

Signed,

Someone who was recently mugged and assaulted by a homeless man. No one cares about victims anymore.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 13:36     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:I no longer go running in my neighborhood (H Street) because of recent uptick in shootings, stabbings, and car jackings in broad daylight. I'm very progressive but don't by into the "abolish the police" nonsense. It would be one thing if we were identifying and implementing crime abatement policies that were actually doing anything, but we're not. You can't abolish the police if you aren't doing anything to prevent or deter crime. The violence interruptor BS is just that -- BS.

I truly believe if we adopted more progressive social policies -- universal health care, low cost or free college, improved supports for the unemployed and families (not just money but actual support in the form of job training and placement, affordable housing, etc.), we'd find we could reduce our emphasis on police and prison. But you can't just abandon our current means of crime abatement without addressing the lack of social support. It won't work, as we are currently seeing.


Education is the key, without education reform not much will change. And one part of it is recognizing that not everyone needs to go to college in its traditional sense, and providing viable professional training programs (trade schools) and paths outside of 4 year colleges is the key. Free and affordable education options, ways to opt out of last 1-2 years of traditional HS by creating blended education allowing getting your GED together with some skills you can use right upon graduation. Maybe rethink community colleges and make them more practical? Maybe rethink how we hire people, getting paths to young people with internships and apprenticeships into real world experience vs. telling them lingering in low paying service jobs is the only way outside of traditional 4 college degree.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 13:25     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think juvenile carjackings are terrifying and a real problem, but I think it would probably work better to improve technological deterrents to doing it over putting the offenders in jail for a decade.


What type of technological deterrent? Like a spike strips for kids on atvs? I have no idea what you mean? Like tracking cell phones or something?


Same. What do you mean??

Car theft= stealing a car that's in someone's driveway. This is harder to do now because it's harder to hotwire cars.

Car jacking= someone opening your car doors while you're in the car (gas station, stop light or parking your car), forcing you out by gunpoint and driving away with your kids in the backseat. There isn't a way to deter this with technology. I mean they often have the keys and the car is running.


One technological deterrent is running electricity through carjackers’ bodies until their hearts stop. Just sayin’


Or drivers starting to carry guns. If things get out of control, what do you think will happen logically speaking? When carjackers will start getting shot in the face, those thinking about committing these crimes may start thinking twice. Punishment at the hands of anxious and angry citizens might be much worse than what legal system may have in store for them. And if legal system ceases to function then citizens will start taking justice in their own hands. Not where we want to go!

We will turn into the 3rd world city where well-to-do residents are hiding behind secure fences or in secure buildings, and where businesses catering to affluent hire security professionals and police themselves. Middle classes will leave the city for safer options that they can still afford. And those too poor and relying on public services of the city will be trapped having to protect themselves with whatever weapons they can legally or illegally procure. Fun times.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 13:09     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

I no longer go running in my neighborhood (H Street) because of recent uptick in shootings, stabbings, and car jackings in broad daylight. I'm very progressive but don't by into the "abolish the police" nonsense. It would be one thing if we were identifying and implementing crime abatement policies that were actually doing anything, but we're not. You can't abolish the police if you aren't doing anything to prevent or deter crime. The violence interruptor BS is just that -- BS.

I truly believe if we adopted more progressive social policies -- universal health care, low cost or free college, improved supports for the unemployed and families (not just money but actual support in the form of job training and placement, affordable housing, etc.), we'd find we could reduce our emphasis on police and prison. But you can't just abandon our current means of crime abatement without addressing the lack of social support. It won't work, as we are currently seeing.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 12:42     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:I think juvenile carjackings are terrifying and a real problem, but I think it would probably work better to improve technological deterrents to doing it over putting the offenders in jail for a decade.


Like what? A pre-crime unit like in the movie minority report? It’s very hard to find pre-clears these days. They have very strong unions.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 12:41     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think juvenile carjackings are terrifying and a real problem, but I think it would probably work better to improve technological deterrents to doing it over putting the offenders in jail for a decade.


What type of technological deterrent? Like a spike strips for kids on atvs? I have no idea what you mean? Like tracking cell phones or something?


These vague solutions are always something like identifying likely carjackers on social media then offering them "services"


Right? Like they’re completely aloof nonsensical, not grounded in reason, kind of hopeful pie in the sky crap. There are tons of services and programs, and there have been for ages. I’m sorry, but you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 12:39     Subject: WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you live in DC, as I assume most of us do, you're perfectly able to decide whether you're scared of rising crime or not, without needing a newspaper to tell you. No one who is especially worried about crime right now would be swayed by an editorial in the opposite direction, so I don't see why anyone who isn't would be convinced by this editorial.

(This is deliberately without comment on my own feelings on the matter, obviously)


It's sure nice to see it in writing though.

The Post is accessed all over the country (perhaps overseas). At least the tourists are getting a heads up, along with the conference planners and attendees.


It’s a big problem. I’m glad it’s getting coverage.

I own property here and I don’t want fking scumbags driving off all the nice citizens.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 12:38     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think juvenile carjackings are terrifying and a real problem, but I think it would probably work better to improve technological deterrents to doing it over putting the offenders in jail for a decade.


What type of technological deterrent? Like a spike strips for kids on atvs? I have no idea what you mean? Like tracking cell phones or something?


These vague solutions are always something like identifying likely carjackers on social media then offering them "services"
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 12:32     Subject: WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:If you live in DC, as I assume most of us do, you're perfectly able to decide whether you're scared of rising crime or not, without needing a newspaper to tell you. No one who is especially worried about crime right now would be swayed by an editorial in the opposite direction, so I don't see why anyone who isn't would be convinced by this editorial.

(This is deliberately without comment on my own feelings on the matter, obviously)


It's sure nice to see it in writing though.

The Post is accessed all over the country (perhaps overseas). At least the tourists are getting a heads up, along with the conference planners and attendees.
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 12:32     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Long story short. Everyone is too scared of LWNJ and cancel culture to do anything substantial about crime. We’re in this hippy dippy hugs phase and tickets are “oppression” and we need to “holistically address the root causes”….and meanwhile crazy sht keeps happening, but we just can’t arrest anyone! Can we? Would be too harsh!
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 12:30     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:I think juvenile carjackings are terrifying and a real problem, but I think it would probably work better to improve technological deterrents to doing it over putting the offenders in jail for a decade.


Let me guess, you advocate for things like pumping classical music at China Town metro, which has been tried, as one of your super effective means of lowering loitering and fighting and robberies, right?

Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 12:24     Subject: WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WaPo editorial board is closet (or maybe not so closet) conservative. They aren't the liberal champions the right paints them to be.



... says Stalin.


I suppose they look liberal if your normal news comes from Tucker Carlson?
Anonymous
Post 09/12/2022 12:07     Subject: Re:WaPo editorial board: people are scared of crime

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think juvenile carjackings are terrifying and a real problem, but I think it would probably work better to improve technological deterrents to doing it over putting the offenders in jail for a decade.


What type of technological deterrent? Like a spike strips for kids on atvs? I have no idea what you mean? Like tracking cell phones or something?


Same. What do you mean??

Car theft= stealing a car that's in someone's driveway. This is harder to do now because it's harder to hotwire cars.

Car jacking= someone opening your car doors while you're in the car (gas station, stop light or parking your car), forcing you out by gunpoint and driving away with your kids in the backseat. There isn't a way to deter this with technology. I mean they often have the keys and the car is running.


One technological deterrent is running electricity through carjackers’ bodies until their hearts stop. Just sayin’