Anonymous
09/11/2022 09:18
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
This thread has devolved into useless shouting match.
Some ACPS testing info:
(1) 38% of disadvantaged students scored at the 40th percentile (nationally) or more on MAP language arts assessment (MAP is a test that aligns with the Common Core, and it covers more ground in that it measures more than what is covered on the SOL, which is grade specific. The MAP growth statistic is not one I understand although it is the number that ACPS seems to care more about).
(2) 80% of non-disadvantaged students meet the above criteria.
(3) 31% of disadvantaged students scored 40th percentile (nationally) or more on the MAP math assessment.
(4) 72% of non-disadvantaged students meet the above criteria.
I don't know how this compares to other school districts but something tells me that the percentage of non-disadvantaged students meeting the 40th percentile on the MAP math assessment could be higher. The percentage of disadvantaged students needs to be significantly higher and the district is certainly failing them.
Change for the better will be slow coming in the district. I don't count on any of it making a difference during the course of my children's tenure in the district. For many families, moving is a realistic option. What families need are realistic strategies for helping their students in their early elementary years - concrete advice on how to access inexpensive supplementation at home. It should be okay to direct, even encourage kids to watch certain YouTube series and play on free educational apps.
Some ACPS testing info:
(1) 38% of disadvantaged students scored at the 40th percentile (nationally) or more on MAP language arts assessment (MAP is a test that aligns with the Common Core, and it covers more ground in that it measures more than what is covered on the SOL, which is grade specific. The MAP growth statistic is not one I understand although it is the number that ACPS seems to care more about).
(2) 80% of non-disadvantaged students meet the above criteria.
(3) 31% of disadvantaged students scored 40th percentile (nationally) or more on the MAP math assessment.
(4) 72% of non-disadvantaged students meet the above criteria.
I don't know how this compares to other school districts but something tells me that the percentage of non-disadvantaged students meeting the 40th percentile on the MAP math assessment could be higher. The percentage of disadvantaged students needs to be significantly higher and the district is certainly failing them.
Change for the better will be slow coming in the district. I don't count on any of it making a difference during the course of my children's tenure in the district. For many families, moving is a realistic option. What families need are realistic strategies for helping their students in their early elementary years - concrete advice on how to access inexpensive supplementation at home. It should be okay to direct, even encourage kids to watch certain YouTube series and play on free educational apps.
Anonymous
09/11/2022 09:17
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
It's the solution because there is no alternative. Alexandrians would rather pretend the schools are good, than demand that the schools actually be good. Then it doesn't make their cocktail parties and scholarship fundraisers awkward.
I banged my head against the ACPS wall for years. Nothing changes. Save yourself the frustration and the trouble of your neighbors vilifying you and insulting responses from School Board members (if you get any response).
Stay but know that you'll have to teach the fundamentals at home or leave and get a proper education for your kid(s).
I have two recent TC grads. One went to UVA and one went to UNC Chapel Hill. All my frinds who went to private schools went to way lesser schools and spent 160k per kid gettng them there. Yikes. Some people just aren't good at making decisions.
"Lesser" schools? What does this even mean? The measure of a good education is not necessarily whether you wound up at a "top" school. Many kids will not thrive an an enormous, overpopulated school with the constellation of issues that have plagued the former TC. Perhaps the friends you turn your nose up at did the calculus of what would work best for their kids at the moment, and not whether at the end of it they could put a UVA sticker on their car.
What does this mean? The entire post is about the quality of education received in a certain system. You are a fool if you think the level of education at UNC Wilmington is equal to that provided by Stanford. Actually, you may just be too stupid to know the difefrence so there's that tooq
Anonymous
09/11/2022 09:14
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
It's the solution because there is no alternative. Alexandrians would rather pretend the schools are good, than demand that the schools actually be good. Then it doesn't make their cocktail parties and scholarship fundraisers awkward.
I banged my head against the ACPS wall for years. Nothing changes. Save yourself the frustration and the trouble of your neighbors vilifying you and insulting responses from School Board members (if you get any response).
Stay but know that you'll have to teach the fundamentals at home or leave and get a proper education for your kid(s).
I have two recent TC grads. One went to UVA and one went to UNC Chapel Hill. All my frinds who went to private schools went to way lesser schools and spent 160k per kid gettng them there. Yikes. Some people just aren't good at making decisions.
Huh. We send our children to private schools because we have the money to do it. You don't. Oh well. Spending the tuition money doesn't mean that we aren't making a good decision. In fact, your post validates our choice. Yikes right back atcha, sweetie.
DP
P.S. Your math is incorrect. It is +$50,000 per year per child for 13 years.
Tell your kid to have fun at Elon!
Anonymous
09/11/2022 08:40
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
It's the solution because there is no alternative. Alexandrians would rather pretend the schools are good, than demand that the schools actually be good. Then it doesn't make their cocktail parties and scholarship fundraisers awkward.
I banged my head against the ACPS wall for years. Nothing changes. Save yourself the frustration and the trouble of your neighbors vilifying you and insulting responses from School Board members (if you get any response).
Stay but know that you'll have to teach the fundamentals at home or leave and get a proper education for your kid(s).
I have two recent TC grads. One went to UVA and one went to UNC Chapel Hill. All my frinds who went to private schools went to way lesser schools and spent 160k per kid gettng them there. Yikes. Some people just aren't good at making decisions.
Good for you! That's great! I bet your kids absolutely thrived during virtual school too, and you were probably actively boasting about it here, and shaming others for being terrible parents because it wasn't working for their kids. You must be so proud.
Anonymous
09/11/2022 08:00
Subject: Re:Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
It’s either a staffing issue (they couldn’t get the positions filled) or staff allocation issue. If school population declines, positions can be cut, making class sizes larger.
Anonymous
09/10/2022 19:47
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
It's the solution because there is no alternative. Alexandrians would rather pretend the schools are good, than demand that the schools actually be good. Then it doesn't make their cocktail parties and scholarship fundraisers awkward.
I banged my head against the ACPS wall for years. Nothing changes. Save yourself the frustration and the trouble of your neighbors vilifying you and insulting responses from School Board members (if you get any response).
Stay but know that you'll have to teach the fundamentals at home or leave and get a proper education for your kid(s).
I have two recent TC grads. One went to UVA and one went to UNC Chapel Hill. All my frinds who went to private schools went to way lesser schools and spent 160k per kid gettng them there. Yikes. Some people just aren't good at making decisions.
Huh. We send our children to private schools because we have the money to do it. You don't. Oh well. Spending the tuition money doesn't mean that we aren't making a good decision. In fact, your post validates our choice. Yikes right back atcha, sweetie.
DP
P.S. Your math is incorrect. It is +$50,000 per year per child for 13 years.
Anonymous
09/10/2022 19:38
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
It's the solution because there is no alternative. Alexandrians would rather pretend the schools are good, than demand that the schools actually be good. Then it doesn't make their cocktail parties and scholarship fundraisers awkward.
I banged my head against the ACPS wall for years. Nothing changes. Save yourself the frustration and the trouble of your neighbors vilifying you and insulting responses from School Board members (if you get any response).
Stay but know that you'll have to teach the fundamentals at home or leave and get a proper education for your kid(s).
I have two recent TC grads. One went to UVA and one went to UNC Chapel Hill. All my frinds who went to private schools went to way lesser schools and spent 160k per kid gettng them there. Yikes. Some people just aren't good at making decisions.
"Lesser" schools? What does this even mean? The measure of a good education is not necessarily whether you wound up at a "top" school. Many kids will not thrive an an enormous, overpopulated school with the constellation of issues that have plagued the former TC. Perhaps the friends you turn your nose up at did the calculus of what would work best for their kids at the moment, and not whether at the end of it they could put a UVA sticker on their car.
Just because some gifted privileged kids at the top of the ACHS class end up at top schools does not mean that ACPS does not fail hundreds of students. This is demonstrated by the 2021-2022 SOL scores that indicate half of ACPS students failed in math.
Anonymous
09/10/2022 19:37
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
It's the solution because there is no alternative. Alexandrians would rather pretend the schools are good, than demand that the schools actually be good. Then it doesn't make their cocktail parties and scholarship fundraisers awkward.
I banged my head against the ACPS wall for years. Nothing changes. Save yourself the frustration and the trouble of your neighbors vilifying you and insulting responses from School Board members (if you get any response).
Stay but know that you'll have to teach the fundamentals at home or leave and get a proper education for your kid(s).
Just because some gifted privileged kids at the top of the ACHS class end up at top schools does not mean that ACPS does not fail hundreds of students. This is demonstrated by the 2021-2022 SOL scores that indicate half of ACPS students failed in math.
I have two recent TC grads. One went to UVA and one went to UNC Chapel Hill. All my frinds who went to private schools went to way lesser schools and spent 160k per kid gettng them there. Yikes. Some people just aren't good at making decisions.
"Lesser" schools? What does this even mean? The measure of a good education is not necessarily whether you wound up at a "top" school. Many kids will not thrive an an enormous, overpopulated school with the constellation of issues that have plagued the former TC. Perhaps the friends you turn your nose up at did the calculus of what would work best for their kids at the moment, and not whether at the end of it they could put a UVA sticker on their car.
Anonymous
09/10/2022 19:11
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
It's the solution because there is no alternative. Alexandrians would rather pretend the schools are good, than demand that the schools actually be good. Then it doesn't make their cocktail parties and scholarship fundraisers awkward.
I banged my head against the ACPS wall for years. Nothing changes. Save yourself the frustration and the trouble of your neighbors vilifying you and insulting responses from School Board members (if you get any response).
Stay but know that you'll have to teach the fundamentals at home or leave and get a proper education for your kid(s).
I have two recent TC grads. One went to UVA and one went to UNC Chapel Hill. All my frinds who went to private schools went to way lesser schools and spent 160k per kid gettng them there. Yikes. Some people just aren't good at making decisions.
"Lesser" schools? What does this even mean? The measure of a good education is not necessarily whether you wound up at a "top" school. Many kids will not thrive an an enormous, overpopulated school with the constellation of issues that have plagued the former TC. Perhaps the friends you turn your nose up at did the calculus of what would work best for their kids at the moment, and not whether at the end of it they could put a UVA sticker on their car.
Anonymous
09/10/2022 18:22
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
It's the solution because there is no alternative. Alexandrians would rather pretend the schools are good, than demand that the schools actually be good. Then it doesn't make their cocktail parties and scholarship fundraisers awkward.
I banged my head against the ACPS wall for years. Nothing changes. Save yourself the frustration and the trouble of your neighbors vilifying you and insulting responses from School Board members (if you get any response).
Stay but know that you'll have to teach the fundamentals at home or leave and get a proper education for your kid(s).
I have two recent TC grads. One went to UVA and one went to UNC Chapel Hill. All my frinds who went to private schools went to way lesser schools and spent 160k per kid gettng them there. Yikes. Some people just aren't good at making decisions.
Anonymous
09/10/2022 17:08
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
It's the solution because there is no alternative. Alexandrians would rather pretend the schools are good, than demand that the schools actually be good. Then it doesn't make their cocktail parties and scholarship fundraisers awkward.
I banged my head against the ACPS wall for years. Nothing changes. Save yourself the frustration and the trouble of your neighbors vilifying you and insulting responses from School Board members (if you get any response).
Stay but know that you'll have to teach the fundamentals at home or leave and get a proper education for your kid(s).
Anonymous
09/10/2022 13:25
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
Bless your heart.
Anonymous
09/10/2022 07:38
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
NP. I wish you luck and hope it works out. My oldest is in high school and we started in Alexandria. Every person we know from the preschool or K days moved or went private by middle school at the latest. I really wish it would change for the better but don’t see it happening. We loved the area but moved because of schools.
+1. Just recently moved out of Alexandria because of the schools.
Anonymous
09/09/2022 21:28
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:No, not interested in moving. Our jobs are both DC based. We are not interested in private schools and I am not sure why that is always the "solution".
NP. I wish you luck and hope it works out. My oldest is in high school and we started in Alexandria. Every person we know from the preschool or K days moved or went private by middle school at the latest. I really wish it would change for the better but don’t see it happening. We loved the area but moved because of schools.
Anonymous
09/09/2022 19:20
Subject: Did ACPS remove entire classrooms at your school?
Anonymous wrote:Did you write to Booz or Elnoubi?
They may not represent your District but they have shown themselves as willing to challenge ACPS. They are not antagonistic but the two of them did speak up when Hutchings told board members to not speak to the press when it came to a Minnie Howard incident.
Elnoubi has this event coming up - https://mobile.twitter.com/abdelelnoubi/with_replies
And look at Booz's twitter account - she will listen and is willing to ask questions.
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By "incident" are you referring to the violent gang rape of a 14 year old in a bathroom at Minnie Howard last October? The one that Hutchings, the school board, Mayor and city council covered up? For all of Elnoubi and Booz's issues with being told not to talk to the press...they sure obeyed him didn't they? Still are.
