Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 15:32     Subject: Re:UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:UVA probably doesn’t have a quota, but they do have high standards. Unless something were to dramatically shift a school’s underlying demographics, it’s probably fair to say that about the same percent each year will meet UVA’s standards. What are those standards? As another poster mentioned, it’s roughly top 5% of class, 33+ ACT, 1450+ SAT, 8+ AP classes, and 4.35+ GPA (recently this has been inflated due to COVID grades). If a school has 500 kids, 5% is 25 kids. That’s about the number that get admitted.


A previous poster mentioned that FCPS has approximately a 30% acceptance rate. Way more than 5.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 15:31     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you not believe it OP? Schools value geographic diversity.


Let say student A (Langley HS high performance school) and student B (Annandale HS low performance school) with identical GPAs, SAT/ACT scores, same ECs. There is a very good chance that student B will get accepted to UVA while student A will get rejected.


Ok, Langley mom 🙄
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 15:25     Subject: Re:UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
UVA probably doesn’t have a quota, but they do have high standards. Unless something were to dramatically shift a school’s underlying demographics, it’s probably fair to say that about the same percent each year will meet UVA’s standards. What are those standards? As another poster mentioned, it’s roughly top 5% of class, 33+ ACT, 1450+ SAT, 8+ AP classes, and 4.35+ GPA (recently this has been inflated due to COVID grades). If a school has 500 kids, 5% is 25 kids. That’s about the number that get admitted.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 15:11     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you not believe it OP? Schools value geographic diversity.


Let say student A (Langley HS high performance school) and student B (Annandale HS low performance school) with identical GPAs, SAT/ACT scores, same ECs. There is a very good chance that student B will get accepted to UVA while student A will get rejected.


If Student A attends Annandale, it's less likely they will end up with similar statistics and accomplishments by senior year. That's why parents pay a premium for Langley and pupil place their kids out of Annandale in large numbers.


Where are you getting this from? The curriculum is the same across all of the neighborhood high schools. There are plenty of kids at every one of them with lots of APs and high test scores. You’re just being a snob.


You are misinformed. Neither the curriculum nor the extra-curricular are the same at Annandale and Langley. Annandale does not offer AP courses and very few students at Annandale receive IB diplomas. But feel free to actually demonstrate that dozens of Annandale students are matriculating to UVA every year.


Yes I know Annandale is an IB school. The point is that the opportunities are there. If the numbers are fewer it’s not because the school isn’t as good, it’s because the student body has more challenges. As for extra-curriculars, blah blah blah nobody gets into UVA because of that and UVA also takes into account the number and quality of ec opportunities at a given school when evaluating applicants.

If a good student from Annandale wants UVA, she can get in just as easily as one from Langley. And if the numbers of enrolled students are lower, it’s only because fewer are applying.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 15:05     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:Looking at the SCHEV stats for UVA and LCPS for 2021. 1832 applied, 479 accepted and 275 attend. This out of 18 high schools. That comes to an average of about 26 accepted and 15 attend. I am the one that posted that my kids LCPS had less than 15 acceptances, they have about 10 who attend from that class. That was from Naviance when my kid gradated in 2021. Our school is not in one of the more wealthy areas and is one of the smaller schools in the county. These stats are somewhat useless though because they are not broken down by school. Net net the only useful stat is that the acceptance rate for LCPS was 26%. To compare, Fairfax acceptance rate is 32.4% for the same period.

I think folks that live in Fairfax are the ones saying "dozens get in" because guess what your schools are much bigger than LCPS by and large and well, looks like it has a higher acceptance rate as well. Can we please stop spouting off what we do not know to be true?


Well, 26 percent being accepted is not “next to impossible.” Also, the average Loudoun high school has 1000 few students than Fairfax so it’s not surprising that the numbers are lower. Finally, that fewer are being admitted from your “poorer” Loudoun high school doesn’t mean it harder to get in from there - it just means that, for whatever reason, fewer are applying.

My point that it’s not as hard as people make it out to be still stands.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 15:03     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do you not believe it OP? Schools value geographic diversity.


Let say student A (Langley HS high performance school) and student B (Annandale HS low performance school) with identical GPAs, SAT/ACT scores, same ECs. There is a very good chance that student B will get accepted to UVA while student A will get rejected.


If Student A attends Annandale, it's less likely they will end up with similar statistics and accomplishments by senior year. That's why parents pay a premium for Langley and pupil place their kids out of Annandale in large numbers.


Where are you getting this from? The curriculum is the same across all of the neighborhood high schools. There are plenty of kids at every one of them with lots of APs and high test scores. You’re just being a snob.


You are misinformed. Neither the curriculum nor the extra-curricular are the same at Annandale and Langley. Annandale does not offer AP courses and very few students at Annandale receive IB diplomas. But feel free to actually demonstrate that dozens of Annandale students are matriculating to UVA every year.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 14:59     Subject: Re:UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:According to Naviance at my kids' NOVA high school, UVA admits about 50 students per year (range from 45-51 over the past seven years). That holds steady regardless of how many apply. So, while they say they don't have quotas they sure seem to have a quota.


oh and since we are talking about this, according to Naviance, my kids LCPS school average about 15-20 acceptances each year for the previous ten years. So is it a quota? i don't personally believe so but yes they accept about the same range of students each year. Like I said, I know at least one very qualified, well rounded person who as top 5%, (as in top 20) in the school who was waitlisted and selected another school. Even being in the top 5% is not a slam dunk anymore.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 14:55     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Looking at the SCHEV stats for UVA and LCPS for 2021. 1832 applied, 479 accepted and 275 attend. This out of 18 high schools. That comes to an average of about 26 accepted and 15 attend. I am the one that posted that my kids LCPS had less than 15 acceptances, they have about 10 who attend from that class. That was from Naviance when my kid gradated in 2021. Our school is not in one of the more wealthy areas and is one of the smaller schools in the county. These stats are somewhat useless though because they are not broken down by school. Net net the only useful stat is that the acceptance rate for LCPS was 26%. To compare, Fairfax acceptance rate is 32.4% for the same period.

I think folks that live in Fairfax are the ones saying "dozens get in" because guess what your schools are much bigger than LCPS by and large and well, looks like it has a higher acceptance rate as well. Can we please stop spouting off what we do not know to be true?
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 14:47     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Looking at Naviance from my kids FCPS HS now, from 2018-2021, 441 acceptances out of 1275 apps. Average 100 a year. That's probably 40-50 a year enrolled.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 14:43     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids school had less that 15 acceptances and no I’m not just sore about it because my kid got in. Mid size NOVA.


No, it didn’t. It got more than that in. Name the school.


I have intention of naming it because this is an anonymous board but it’s absolutely true. I don’t care if you believe me and again my kid got in so I don’t care. I can tell you that some kids in the top 5% did not get in.


One of us has responded with facts, and the other has refused to.


Um no it’s an actual fact you just refuse to believe it.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 14:33     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op - you do not have any experience


Huh? It has nothing to do with experience. We’re talking about facts.


NP- OP, what is your ultimate point with this? Why do you care so much? You are coming off to be an annoying argumentative twit rambling on about inane BS.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 14:31     Subject: Re:UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:According to Naviance at my kids' NOVA high school, UVA admits about 50 students per year (range from 45-51 over the past seven years). That holds steady regardless of how many apply. So, while they say they don't have quotas they sure seem to have a quota.


Our FCPS high school similarly had 45 kids accepted to UVA last year. According to our high school counselor, these kids were either hooked or had 4.4+ GPAs (which you can see on Naviance) in addition to lots of rigorous APs, SAT scores near or above 1500, etc. So no, it's not at all impossible for a kid to get into UVA from NOVA, but unless your kid has a hook, a 4.2 and 1440 SAT isn't going to cut it barring something unusual.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 14:28     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:Op - you do not have any experience


Huh? It has nothing to do with experience. We’re talking about facts.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 14:25     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Op - you do not have any experience
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2022 14:22     Subject: UVA admissions from NOVA public schools
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids school had less that 15 acceptances and no I’m not just sore about it because my kid got in. Mid size NOVA.


No, it didn’t. It got more than that in. Name the school.


I have intention of naming it because this is an anonymous board but it’s absolutely true. I don’t care if you believe me and again my kid got in so I don’t care. I can tell you that some kids in the top 5% did not get in.


One of us has responded with facts, and the other has refused to.