Anonymous
09/02/2022 14:09
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
I'm glad Mary Cheh is doing this. It's nonsensical to send kids that live a block from Stoddert to a different school miles away, and I can't imagine the Council would oppose this common sense measure.
Anonymous
09/02/2022 12:12
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh introduced a resolution in the Council, “Sense of the Council on the Stoddert Elementary Addition Resolution of 2022”.
To declare the sense of the Council that the District of Columbia Public Schools should ensure that
no family assigned to the new elementary school in Foxhall Village has a longer commute
to school than in their current catchment area; that the new elementary school in Foxhall
Village is located such that it cannot accommodate Glover Park families or other families
within Stoddert’s catchment area, as the new school is not reasonably accessible for that
community; and, that the Stoddert addition must be built such that an additional story can
be added when future enrollment requires it.
https://lims.dccouncil.us/downloads/LIMS/49787/Introduction/PR24-0814-Introduction.pdf
Exhibit A of why DC needs politically independent education oversight. If OSSE wasn't a mayoral plaything, objective data and analysis could ensure equity and not perpetuate privilege of donors WotP.
There are much worse things than cramped classrooms for 1he 16% of DCPS kids that are white.
We Ward 3 folks really need to suck it up. All DC kids are entitled to FREE education -- not convenient locations set in stone to ensure property values of the few.
Suck what up? This issue has nothing to do with denying something to someone outside of Ward 3.
And no, “white” kids (by which I am guessing you mean non-Black kids) don’t deserve to be in cramped classrooms anymore than anyone else. And cramping them up does not equate to benefit to someone else. What odd thinking.
Anonymous
09/02/2022 12:00
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just means that more seats at the new school will be available for those EOTP. Isn't that the goal? or am I missing something? if it is just intra-ward-3 fights, then who cares? let them do whatever.
Upper NW is projected to have too many students in…what 2-3 year like 2,000 more kids vs seats or something. This translates into Deal and Wilson(named changed) being very over crowded. Like people suing DC too crowded. The easy(politically) way to fix this is to push feeding elementary students from Mann to Hardy and make a new High school that takes Hardy. This will relieve pressure on Mann and former Wilson. The cheaper way is to take elementary school west of the park now going to Mann and send them to the middle/high school east of the park in Upper NW.
An elementary school in Foxhall has a lot of problems and does not fix the over crowding issue in upper NW. It is a white elephant. It is a school for the few rich people with kids who live in Foxhall and close by Palisades. The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half. The density is a lot higher in Glover Park vs Foxhall. So once Glover Park got wind of it they organized. They are pissed off. Proposed new boundary would make people who live a block away from Stoddert have to drive their kids to Foxhall.
Next up Mann and Key will get proposed new boundary. Mann -everything south of Nebraska will go to the new Foxhall school and Key everything east of Arizona. Basically the same thing they proposed for Glover Park. People will be able to see an elementary school from their house but can not go there. Lol
This is why the New Foxhall Elementary school is circling the drain.
The "proposed Stoddert boundary" is one of those untruths that will never die. There never was a proposed Stoddert boundary. DCPS showed a suggestion at one meeting and quickly walked it back.
It is also completely untrue that "The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half." That's been debunked so many times but there's a core of dead-enders who just don't want to believe it.
If you truly believe there are no plans to cut Glover Park in half -- and that there shouldn't be -- you should support Cheh's resolution.
That would help make up for GP enduring individuals from other neighborhoods gaslighting us on the GP listserv and elsewhere.
I love listening to upper NW people talk about "splitting Glover Park" as if it was East/West Berlin or some other actual line of demarcation.
Anonymous
09/02/2022 11:14
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The privileged seeking actual special privileges.
It is remarkable to watch it happen in real-time. No shame.
Yep it is amazing that foxhall was able to get an elementary school. There are like 5 kids who live in that area.
What’s more amazing is that the mayor gave away — literally! — the existing school on the site, so now the city will spend millions to build a new school next door on what has been field space.
UNTRUE. A LEASE is not a giveaway. Every mayor for over a decade could've taken back that old, small building which is leased and repaired by a nonprofit school for kids with learning disabilities that's been in DC for 50 YEARS. DCPS rejected that site for years while it kicked the overcrowding can down the road
Stop spreading ableist BS. Lab School's lease is not the reason for DCPS failure to plan and the political nonsense that comes with total mayoral control of education.
Make like Elsa and let it go.
Oh gawd, pity the poor “non-profit” private school that charges over $50k for annual tuition, serves a student base that predominantly doesn’t live in DC, creates massive traffic jams and parking problems for the neighborhood, and paid through the nose for top-flight lobbyists to help it push through a multi-decade lease - announced on Christmas Eve and not approved or discussed by the Council or any other local deliberative body - that gives it exclusive use of a public building needed to educate local children - both able and disabled - for a tiny fraction of what it should cost and then refuses to engage with the local community on potential alternative solutions to school over-crowding.
The facts apologize for being “ableist”.
Anonymous
09/02/2022 11:07
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh introduced a resolution in the Council, “Sense of the Council on the Stoddert Elementary Addition Resolution of 2022”.
To declare the sense of the Council that the District of Columbia Public Schools should ensure that
no family assigned to the new elementary school in Foxhall Village has a longer commute
to school than in their current catchment area; that the new elementary school in Foxhall
Village is located such that it cannot accommodate Glover Park families or other families
within Stoddert’s catchment area, as the new school is not reasonably accessible for that
community; and, that the Stoddert addition must be built such that an additional story can
be added when future enrollment requires it.
https://lims.dccouncil.us/downloads/LIMS/49787/Introduction/PR24-0814-Introduction.pdf
Exhibit A of why DC needs politically independent education oversight. If OSSE wasn't a mayoral plaything, objective data and analysis could ensure equity and not perpetuate privilege of donors WotP.
There are much worse things than cramped classrooms for 1he 16% of DCPS kids that are white.
We Ward 3 folks really need to suck it up. All DC kids are entitled to FREE education -- not convenient locations set in stone to ensure property values of the few.
Anonymous
09/02/2022 10:54
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The privileged seeking actual special privileges.
It is remarkable to watch it happen in real-time. No shame.
Yep it is amazing that foxhall was able to get an elementary school. There are like 5 kids who live in that area.
What’s more amazing is that the mayor gave away — literally! — the existing school on the site, so now the city will spend millions to build a new school next door on what has been field space.
UNTRUE. A LEASE is not a giveaway. Every mayor for over a decade could've taken back that old, small building which is leased and repaired by a nonprofit school for kids with learning disabilities that's been in DC for 50 YEARS. DCPS rejected that site for years while it kicked the overcrowding can down the road
Stop spreading ableist BS. Lab School's lease is not the reason for DCPS failure to plan and the political nonsense that comes with total mayoral control of education.
Make like Elsa and let it go.
Anonymous
09/02/2022 10:51
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Just a note for those imagining seeing an ES from your house that your kids cannot attend, remember Proximity Preference will still be a factor.
"Proximity preference
A lottery preference provided to students who live greater than a half-mile walking distance from their DCPS in-boundary elementary school and apply to attend a DCPS out-of-boundary school that is a half-mile or less walking distance from their home. This preference only applies to students enrolling in PK3 – grade 5. Proximity preference is not offered at DCPS citywide schools. The application will automatically apply this preference based on the guardian's home address provided on the application." [source: https://www.myschooldc.org/faq/key-terms]
"Proximity preference
A lottery preference provided to students who live greater than a half-mile walking distance from their DCPS in-boundary elementary school and apply to attend a DCPS out-of-boundary school that is a half-mile or less walking distance from their home. This preference only applies to students enrolling in PK3 – grade 5. Proximity preference is not offered at DCPS citywide schools. The application will automatically apply this preference based on the guardian's home address provided on the application." [source: https://www.myschooldc.org/faq/key-terms]
Anonymous
09/02/2022 09:56
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just means that more seats at the new school will be available for those EOTP. Isn't that the goal? or am I missing something? if it is just intra-ward-3 fights, then who cares? let them do whatever.
Upper NW is projected to have too many students in…what 2-3 year like 2,000 more kids vs seats or something. This translates into Deal and Wilson(named changed) being very over crowded. Like people suing DC too crowded. The easy(politically) way to fix this is to push feeding elementary students from Mann to Hardy and make a new High school that takes Hardy. This will relieve pressure on Mann and former Wilson. The cheaper way is to take elementary school west of the park now going to Mann and send them to the middle/high school east of the park in Upper NW.
An elementary school in Foxhall has a lot of problems and does not fix the over crowding issue in upper NW. It is a white elephant. It is a school for the few rich people with kids who live in Foxhall and close by Palisades. The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half. The density is a lot higher in Glover Park vs Foxhall. So once Glover Park got wind of it they organized. They are pissed off. Proposed new boundary would make people who live a block away from Stoddert have to drive their kids to Foxhall.
Next up Mann and Key will get proposed new boundary. Mann -everything south of Nebraska will go to the new Foxhall school and Key everything east of Arizona. Basically the same thing they proposed for Glover Park. People will be able to see an elementary school from their house but can not go there. Lol
This is why the New Foxhall Elementary school is circling the drain.
If you are so poorly informed about local educational issues as to not know Wilson’s new name or, even worse, that a new high school will open next fall to do exactly what your first paragraph is calling for, then it is worth asking yourself why you think you are doing the cause you espouse any favors by commenting publicly.
Yes, that was really confusing. They already have a plan for that?
Anonymous
09/02/2022 09:43
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just means that more seats at the new school will be available for those EOTP. Isn't that the goal? or am I missing something? if it is just intra-ward-3 fights, then who cares? let them do whatever.
Upper NW is projected to have too many students in…what 2-3 year like 2,000 more kids vs seats or something. This translates into Deal and Wilson(named changed) being very over crowded. Like people suing DC too crowded. The easy(politically) way to fix this is to push feeding elementary students from Mann to Hardy and make a new High school that takes Hardy. This will relieve pressure on Mann and former Wilson. The cheaper way is to take elementary school west of the park now going to Mann and send them to the middle/high school east of the park in Upper NW.
An elementary school in Foxhall has a lot of problems and does not fix the over crowding issue in upper NW. It is a white elephant. It is a school for the few rich people with kids who live in Foxhall and close by Palisades. The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half. The density is a lot higher in Glover Park vs Foxhall. So once Glover Park got wind of it they organized. They are pissed off. Proposed new boundary would make people who live a block away from Stoddert have to drive their kids to Foxhall.
Next up Mann and Key will get proposed new boundary. Mann -everything south of Nebraska will go to the new Foxhall school and Key everything east of Arizona. Basically the same thing they proposed for Glover Park. People will be able to see an elementary school from their house but can not go there. Lol
This is why the New Foxhall Elementary school is circling the drain.
If you are so poorly informed about local educational issues as to not know Wilson’s new name or, even worse, that a new high school will open next fall to do exactly what your first paragraph is calling for, then it is worth asking yourself why you think you are doing the cause you espouse any favors by commenting publicly.
Anonymous
09/02/2022 09:38
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just means that more seats at the new school will be available for those EOTP. Isn't that the goal? or am I missing something? if it is just intra-ward-3 fights, then who cares? let them do whatever.
Upper NW is projected to have too many students in…what 2-3 year like 2,000 more kids vs seats or something. This translates into Deal and Wilson(named changed) being very over crowded. Like people suing DC too crowded. The easy(politically) way to fix this is to push feeding elementary students from Mann to Hardy and make a new High school that takes Hardy. This will relieve pressure on Mann and former Wilson. The cheaper way is to take elementary school west of the park now going to Mann and send them to the middle/high school east of the park in Upper NW.
An elementary school in Foxhall has a lot of problems and does not fix the over crowding issue in upper NW. It is a white elephant. It is a school for the few rich people with kids who live in Foxhall and close by Palisades. The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half. The density is a lot higher in Glover Park vs Foxhall. So once Glover Park got wind of it they organized. They are pissed off. Proposed new boundary would make people who live a block away from Stoddert have to drive their kids to Foxhall.
Next up Mann and Key will get proposed new boundary. Mann -everything south of Nebraska will go to the new Foxhall school and Key everything east of Arizona. Basically the same thing they proposed for Glover Park. People will be able to see an elementary school from their house but can not go there. Lol
This is why the New Foxhall Elementary school is circling the drain.
The "proposed Stoddert boundary" is one of those untruths that will never die. There never was a proposed Stoddert boundary. DCPS showed a suggestion at one meeting and quickly walked it back.
It is also completely untrue that "The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half." That's been debunked so many times but there's a core of dead-enders who just don't want to believe it.
If you truly believe there are no plans to cut Glover Park in half -- and that there shouldn't be -- you should support Cheh's resolution.
That would help make up for GP enduring individuals from other neighborhoods gaslighting us on the GP listserv and elsewhere.
Stoddert boosters accusing others of gaslighting? Well, hello pot . . .
Glover Park deserves absolutely nothing from the rest of the city. Your community - led by your ANC chair and PTA - have been throwing the most egregious beggar-thy-neighbor tantrums, dreaming up non-existent threats, and spreading falsehoods formulated to deny other community’s the walkable elementary school that you all insist that your community - and only your community - has some divine right to.
Now you’ve gone and got the CM involved in a pathetic attempt to win for yourselves something no one else in the city has. It reminds me of something but I can’t quite remember what. Oh, that’s right, the dear old residents of Chain Bridge Road and University Terrace and their quixotic quest to have the city close their street to through traffic. That worked wonderfully for them, didn’t it? Well, odds are that this is going to end about as well for you all.
Streisand Effect coming at you . . .
Anonymous
09/02/2022 09:26
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just means that more seats at the new school will be available for those EOTP. Isn't that the goal? or am I missing something? if it is just intra-ward-3 fights, then who cares? let them do whatever.
Upper NW is projected to have too many students in…what 2-3 year like 2,000 more kids vs seats or something. This translates into Deal and Wilson(named changed) being very over crowded. Like people suing DC too crowded. The easy(politically) way to fix this is to push feeding elementary students from Mann to Hardy and make a new High school that takes Hardy. This will relieve pressure on Mann and former Wilson. The cheaper way is to take elementary school west of the park now going to Mann and send them to the middle/high school east of the park in Upper NW.
An elementary school in Foxhall has a lot of problems and does not fix the over crowding issue in upper NW. It is a white elephant. It is a school for the few rich people with kids who live in Foxhall and close by Palisades. The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half. The density is a lot higher in Glover Park vs Foxhall. So once Glover Park got wind of it they organized. They are pissed off. Proposed new boundary would make people who live a block away from Stoddert have to drive their kids to Foxhall.
Next up Mann and Key will get proposed new boundary. Mann -everything south of Nebraska will go to the new Foxhall school and Key everything east of Arizona. Basically the same thing they proposed for Glover Park. People will be able to see an elementary school from their house but can not go there. Lol
This is why the New Foxhall Elementary school is circling the drain.
We all read your tripe on the GP listserv months ago. You are not making any more sense now.
NP I don't have a horse in this race but what PPP wrote makes sense to me. Maybe (and I'm just spitballing here) the issue is not coherence of what they are saying, but rather that you are so close to and emotionally involved in the issue that you lack perspective or rationality.
The earlier post is full of factual inaccuracies. If you don’t understand anything about the issue, you can I guess be forgiven for overlooking them.
Anonymous
09/02/2022 07:51
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just means that more seats at the new school will be available for those EOTP. Isn't that the goal? or am I missing something? if it is just intra-ward-3 fights, then who cares? let them do whatever.
Upper NW is projected to have too many students in…what 2-3 year like 2,000 more kids vs seats or something. This translates into Deal and Wilson(named changed) being very over crowded. Like people suing DC too crowded. The easy(politically) way to fix this is to push feeding elementary students from Mann to Hardy and make a new High school that takes Hardy. This will relieve pressure on Mann and former Wilson. The cheaper way is to take elementary school west of the park now going to Mann and send them to the middle/high school east of the park in Upper NW.
An elementary school in Foxhall has a lot of problems and does not fix the over crowding issue in upper NW. It is a white elephant. It is a school for the few rich people with kids who live in Foxhall and close by Palisades. The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half. The density is a lot higher in Glover Park vs Foxhall. So once Glover Park got wind of it they organized. They are pissed off. Proposed new boundary would make people who live a block away from Stoddert have to drive their kids to Foxhall.
Next up Mann and Key will get proposed new boundary. Mann -everything south of Nebraska will go to the new Foxhall school and Key everything east of Arizona. Basically the same thing they proposed for Glover Park. People will be able to see an elementary school from their house but can not go there. Lol
This is why the New Foxhall Elementary school is circling the drain.
We all read your tripe on the GP listserv months ago. You are not making any more sense now.
NP I don't have a horse in this race but what PPP wrote makes sense to me. Maybe (and I'm just spitballing here) the issue is not coherence of what they are saying, but rather that you are so close to and emotionally involved in the issue that you lack perspective or rationality.
Anonymous
09/02/2022 04:37
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just means that more seats at the new school will be available for those EOTP. Isn't that the goal? or am I missing something? if it is just intra-ward-3 fights, then who cares? let them do whatever.
Upper NW is projected to have too many students in…what 2-3 year like 2,000 more kids vs seats or something. This translates into Deal and Wilson(named changed) being very over crowded. Like people suing DC too crowded. The easy(politically) way to fix this is to push feeding elementary students from Mann to Hardy and make a new High school that takes Hardy. This will relieve pressure on Mann and former Wilson. The cheaper way is to take elementary school west of the park now going to Mann and send them to the middle/high school east of the park in Upper NW.
An elementary school in Foxhall has a lot of problems and does not fix the over crowding issue in upper NW. It is a white elephant. It is a school for the few rich people with kids who live in Foxhall and close by Palisades. The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half. The density is a lot higher in Glover Park vs Foxhall. So once Glover Park got wind of it they organized. They are pissed off. Proposed new boundary would make people who live a block away from Stoddert have to drive their kids to Foxhall.
Next up Mann and Key will get proposed new boundary. Mann -everything south of Nebraska will go to the new Foxhall school and Key everything east of Arizona. Basically the same thing they proposed for Glover Park. People will be able to see an elementary school from their house but can not go there. Lol
This is why the New Foxhall Elementary school is circling the drain.
The "proposed Stoddert boundary" is one of those untruths that will never die. There never was a proposed Stoddert boundary. DCPS showed a suggestion at one meeting and quickly walked it back.
It is also completely untrue that "The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half." That's been debunked so many times but there's a core of dead-enders who just don't want to believe it.
If you truly believe there are no plans to cut Glover Park in half -- and that there shouldn't be -- you should support Cheh's resolution.
That would help make up for GP enduring individuals from other neighborhoods gaslighting us on the GP listserv and elsewhere.
Anonymous
09/01/2022 23:53
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just means that more seats at the new school will be available for those EOTP. Isn't that the goal? or am I missing something? if it is just intra-ward-3 fights, then who cares? let them do whatever.
Upper NW is projected to have too many students in…what 2-3 year like 2,000 more kids vs seats or something. This translates into Deal and Wilson(named changed) being very over crowded. Like people suing DC too crowded. The easy(politically) way to fix this is to push feeding elementary students from Mann to Hardy and make a new High school that takes Hardy. This will relieve pressure on Mann and former Wilson. The cheaper way is to take elementary school west of the park now going to Mann and send them to the middle/high school east of the park in Upper NW.
An elementary school in Foxhall has a lot of problems and does not fix the over crowding issue in upper NW. It is a white elephant. It is a school for the few rich people with kids who live in Foxhall and close by Palisades. The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half. The density is a lot higher in Glover Park vs Foxhall. So once Glover Park got wind of it they organized. They are pissed off. Proposed new boundary would make people who live a block away from Stoddert have to drive their kids to Foxhall.
Next up Mann and Key will get proposed new boundary. Mann -everything south of Nebraska will go to the new Foxhall school and Key everything east of Arizona. Basically the same thing they proposed for Glover Park. People will be able to see an elementary school from their house but can not go there. Lol
This is why the New Foxhall Elementary school is circling the drain.
The "proposed Stoddert boundary" is one of those untruths that will never die. There never was a proposed Stoddert boundary. DCPS showed a suggestion at one meeting and quickly walked it back.
It is also completely untrue that "The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half." That's been debunked so many times but there's a core of dead-enders who just don't want to believe it.
Anonymous
09/01/2022 23:27
Subject: Mary Cheh seeks to exempt Stoddert from DCPS boundary procedures
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This just means that more seats at the new school will be available for those EOTP. Isn't that the goal? or am I missing something? if it is just intra-ward-3 fights, then who cares? let them do whatever.
Upper NW is projected to have too many students in…what 2-3 year like 2,000 more kids vs seats or something. This translates into Deal and Wilson(named changed) being very over crowded. Like people suing DC too crowded. The easy(politically) way to fix this is to push feeding elementary students from Mann to Hardy and make a new High school that takes Hardy. This will relieve pressure on Mann and former Wilson. The cheaper way is to take elementary school west of the park now going to Mann and send them to the middle/high school east of the park in Upper NW.
An elementary school in Foxhall has a lot of problems and does not fix the over crowding issue in upper NW. It is a white elephant. It is a school for the few rich people with kids who live in Foxhall and close by Palisades. The only way you get enough kids is to cut Glover Park in half. The density is a lot higher in Glover Park vs Foxhall. So once Glover Park got wind of it they organized. They are pissed off. Proposed new boundary would make people who live a block away from Stoddert have to drive their kids to Foxhall.
Next up Mann and Key will get proposed new boundary. Mann -everything south of Nebraska will go to the new Foxhall school and Key everything east of Arizona. Basically the same thing they proposed for Glover Park. People will be able to see an elementary school from their house but can not go there. Lol
This is why the New Foxhall Elementary school is circling the drain.
We all read your tripe on the GP listserv months ago. You are not making any more sense now.