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Anonymous wrote:Using a weighted GPA doesn’t help across school districts or across schools. A 4.4 weighted GPA is about top 20% FPS but top 5/% Arlington Public Schools. At STA or NCS, a 3.7 is top 5%. It’s rank and rigor that matter. Not weighted GPA.

A 4.4W is NOT about the top 20% at our FCPS -- not sure where you're getting that from.

So what is the top 20%? Top 5%?

For our FCPS HS, 4.0W was top 20%. (just calculating the number of honor students mentioned at graduation/total # of students in 12th grade)

new here -- does this mean that 20% of the class is graduating with 4.0+? I cannot wrap

my head around that.

Oops i got my math wrong. It wasnt 20%. It was 25%.

At graduation, they congratulated the 140 students who completed at 4.0 or above.
There were 552 in the graduating class.

Interesting but not relevant for determine what the cut off is for the top 5% of the class.

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Anonymous wrote:It does not matter. Schools re-calculate anyway.

Some schools take out all 9th grade courses.
Some take out non academic courses (drivers ed and PE)

Some colleges review kids together for a school as this way they do not need to spend the time familiarizing themselves on the schools profile etc.

I often read this. Truly curious, what colleges specifically recalculate GPA by these means or others. It seems to me admissions offices would be way too busy to actually do this for each student as there would need to be some human piece to the recalculation.

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All selective colleges recalculate the GPAs. They hire people under contract to do this. It varies by college, but they all just start with the letter grade earned for all or some (core) classes and then add back in some form of weighting for some AP and IB classes. For colleges that get a ton of applications from your high school, the colleges often know the top 5 or 10% cut offs better than the high school guidance counselors do.

Weighted means nothing for college admissions process.

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Anonymous wrote:Using a weighted GPA doesn’t help across school districts or across schools. A 4.4 weighted GPA is about top 20% FPS but top 5/% Arlington Public Schools. At STA or NCS, a 3.7 is top 5%. It’s rank and rigor that matter. Not weighted GPA.

A 4.4W is NOT about the top 20% at our FCPS -- not sure where you're getting that from.

So what is the top 20%? Top 5%?

For our FCPS HS, 4.0W was top 20%. (just calculating the number of honor students mentioned at graduation/total # of students in 12th grade)

new here -- does this mean that 20% of the class is graduating with 4.0+? I cannot wrap

my head around that.

Oops i got my math wrong. It wasnt 20%. It was 25%.

At graduation, they congratulated the 140 students who completed at 4.0 or above.
There were 552 in the graduating class.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using a weighted GPA doesn’t help across school districts or across schools. A 4.4 weighted GPA is about top 20% FPS but top 5/% Arlington Public Schools. At STA or NCS, a 3.7 is top 5%. It’s rank and rigor that matter. Not weighted GPA.

A 4.4W is NOT about the top 20% at our FCPS -- not sure where you're getting that from.

So what is the top 20%? Top 5%?

For our FCPS HS, 4.0W was top 20%. (just calculating the number of honor students mentioned at graduation/total # of students in 12th grade)

new here -- does this mean that 20% of the class is graduating with 4.0+? I cannot wrap my head around that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It does not matter. Schools re-calculate anyway.

Some schools take out all 9th grade courses.
Some take out non academic courses (drivers ed and PE)

Some colleges review kids together for a school as this way they do not need to spend the time familiarizing themselves on the schools profile etc.

I often read this. Truly curious, what colleges specifically recalculate GPA by these means or others. It seems to me admissions offices would be way too busy to actually do this for each student as there would need to be some human piece to the recalculation.

I am a professor that worked at two universities that recalculated the GPA using enrollment/admissions software that uses historical data, school profiles, transcripts, and other info to create a grade equivalency to standardize grades on a 4.0 scale. During the holistic part of the review process, individual rigor is accessed.

Anonymous wrote:It does not matter. Schools re-calculate anyway.

Some schools take out all 9th grade courses.
Some take out non academic courses (drivers ed and PE)

Some colleges review kids together for a school as this way they do not need to spend the time familiarizing themselves on the schools profile etc.

I often read this. Truly curious, what colleges specifically recalculate GPA by these means or others. It seems to me admissions offices would be way too busy to actually do this for each student as there would need to be some human piece to the recalculation.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean all these posts about my kid has a 4.4 GPA. Will they get into UVA? I mean please. It depends on where the 4.4 is in the class rank and whether the courseload is the most rigorous. There are dozens of school districts on DCUM and the W GPAs don’t translate.

What do you mean by courseload is most rigorous?

If someone has a WGPA above 4.0, that indicates that they have taken weighted classes.
More weighted classes and As will keep bumping them above 4.0.

You’re new to this. Most rigorous is a term of art for college admissions.

How is most rigorous quantified?
For example, our high school offers 27 AP courses.
How many of those does my kid need to take to qualify for most rigorous?

I would say 10 at the minimum, half (13/14) if possible.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is full IB, all honors or AP classes. They have gotten one B.

Curious— your kid didn’t have to take PE or an art/music class? If they did, it was an honors class?

Oh yeah, they took PE, during the summer. No art/music

In case that's not clear, taking PE during the summer allows the student to take it pass/fail. It frees up a period to take a more rigorous class (thus allowing for a better GPA). We didn't have a clue about gaming the system with our oldest. He took all honors or AP classes, only earned one B in high school, but any GenEd As in PE/music/electives he was curious about, pulled his gpa down.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean all these posts about my kid has a 4.4 GPA. Will they get into UVA? I mean please. It depends on where the 4.4 is in the class rank and whether the courseload is the most rigorous. There are dozens of school districts on DCUM and the W GPAs don’t translate.

What do you mean by courseload is most rigorous?

If someone has a WGPA above 4.0, that indicates that they have taken weighted classes.
More weighted classes and As will keep bumping them above 4.0.

You’re new to this. Most rigorous is a term of art for college admissions.

How is most rigorous quantified?
For example, our high school offers 27 AP courses.
How many of those does my kid need to take to qualify for most rigorous?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is full IB, all honors or AP classes. They have gotten one B.

Curious— your kid didn’t have to take PE or an art/music class? If they did, it was an honors class?

Oh yeah, they took PE, during the summer. No art/music

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using a weighted GPA doesn’t help across school districts or across schools. A 4.4 weighted GPA is about top 20% FPS but top 5/% Arlington Public Schools. At STA or NCS, a 3.7 is top 5%. It’s rank and rigor that matter. Not weighted GPA.

A 4.4W is NOT about the top 20% at our FCPS -- not sure where you're getting that from.

So what is the top 20%? Top 5%?

For our FCPS HS, 4.0W was top 20%. (just calculating the number of honor students mentioned at graduation/total # of students in 12th grade)

So what’s the top 5%? That’s usually about the UVA cutoff.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean all these posts about my kid has a 4.4 GPA. Will they get into UVA? I mean please. It depends on where the 4.4 is in the class rank and whether the courseload is the most rigorous. There are dozens of school districts on DCUM and the W GPAs don’t translate.

What do you mean by courseload is most rigorous?

If someone has a WGPA above 4.0, that indicates that they have taken weighted classes.
More weighted classes and As will keep bumping them above 4.0.

You’re new to this. Most rigorous is a term of art for college admissions.

Anonymous wrote:I mean all these posts about my kid has a 4.4 GPA. Will they get into UVA? I mean please. It depends on where the 4.4 is in the class rank and whether the courseload is the most rigorous. There are dozens of school districts on DCUM and the W GPAs don’t translate.

What do you mean by courseload is most rigorous?

If someone has a WGPA above 4.0, that indicates that they have taken weighted classes.
More weighted classes and As will keep bumping them above 4.0.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Using a weighted GPA doesn’t help across school districts or across schools. A 4.4 weighted GPA is about top 20% FPS but top 5/% Arlington Public Schools. At STA or NCS, a 3.7 is top 5%. It’s rank and rigor that matter. Not weighted GPA.

A 4.4W is NOT about the top 20% at our FCPS -- not sure where you're getting that from.

So what is the top 20%? Top 5%?

For our FCPS HS, 4.0W was top 20%. (just calculating the number of honor students mentioned at graduation/total # of students in 12th grade)

Anonymous wrote:My kid is full IB, all honors or AP classes. They have gotten one B.

Curious— your kid didn’t have to take PE or an art/music class? If they did, it was an honors class?