Anonymous wrote:Drinking fountain is required per Virginia Plumbing Code:

https://up.codes/viewer/virginia/ipc-2015/chapter/4/fixtures-faucets-and-fixture-fittings#403.1

What was the occupant load? Not required for under 15.

It's probably a code violation not to provide tap water if asked.

Drinking fountain is required per Virginia Plumbing Code:

https://up.codes/viewer/virginia/ipc-2015/chapter/4/fixtures-faucets-and-fixture-fittings#403.1

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Anonymous wrote:Encountered my first one today it was a casual coffee/sandwich place with seating. Is this a thing nowadays?

Did they charge you for tap water in a washable cup or did they charge you for tap water in a disposable cup? For some reason, some places charge a cup fee for a disposable cup but not a washing fee for a regular non to go type cup.

Nope, they refused to give us tap water and pointed us to the bottled water in the refrigerated case.

So buy a water. You can afford to eat out, you can afford a bottle of water.

Stop rolling your eyes. Grow up. Tap water is free, and they don't deserve any further business if this is how they operate.

OP: Where?

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Anonymous wrote:Europe.

Is their tap water potable and safe? That is usually the reason other countries don’t offer free water.

No this in the DMV area. They are a coffee shop, sink right behind the counter.

Wait…a coffee shop? I would be mad if it was a restaurant where I paid for food, but it sort of makes sense for a place that makes most of its money from selling beverages.

It's not up the establishment based on their business model. There are specific code requirements.

It's like saying a sandwich shops makes less money from selling drinks than a bar, so it's OK if the sandwich shop doesn't install bathrooms, because people won't really need to use it compared to a place selling lots of drinks.

What's next, you''ll excuse a sporting goods store from having a doorway that's wide enough for a wheelchair because wheelchair people are less likely to play sports?

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Anonymous wrote:Europe.

Is their tap water potable and safe? That is usually the reason other countries don’t offer free water.

All of Europe has safe potable water. No.

Get a passport. And don't come back with your BS about how much you travel, either.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they have a bathroom on-site. There's a code requirement to have a water fountain by the bathroom in most jurisdctions.

They did and no water fountain. This is in Vienna, Fairfax County.

Virginia Plumbing Code 410.2

https://up.codes/viewer/virginia/ipc-2015/chapter/4/fixtures-faucets-and-fixture-fittings#410.2

However it's not required for "occupant load" under 15. How big was the coffee shop?

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people don't like to pay for plastic disposable water bottles on principle.

A lot of people also carry their own metal water bottles.

A lot of people don't like to pay for plastic disposable water bottles on principle.

Anonymous wrote:Europe.

Not true. You just have to ask for tap water (l’eau du robinet).

I hate that some Italian/French restaurants now charge for bread with your meal (like I think Mon Ami Gaby!)

Anonymous wrote:out west there is never water unless you request it because of drought

OP requested it but they refused.

out west there is never water unless you request it because of drought

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Anonymous wrote:Encountered my first one today it was a casual coffee/sandwich place with seating. Is this a thing nowadays?

Did they charge you for tap water in a washable cup or did they charge you for tap water in a disposable cup? For some reason, some places charge a cup fee for a disposable cup but not a washing fee for a regular non to go type cup.

Nope, they refused to give us tap water and pointed us to the bottled water in the refrigerated case.

So buy a water. You can afford to eat out, you can afford a bottle of water.

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Anonymous wrote:Europe.

Is their tap water potable and safe? That is usually the reason other countries don’t offer free water.

No this in the DMV area. They are a coffee shop, sink right behind the counter.

Wait…a coffee shop? I would be mad if it was a restaurant where I paid for food, but it sort of makes sense for a place that makes most of its money from selling beverages.

OP here: it’s a coffee shop with with a breakfast and lunch menu. That said Starbucks has always given us water when we ask.

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Anonymous wrote:Europe.

Is their tap water potable and safe? That is usually the reason other countries don’t offer free water.

No this in the DMV area. They are a coffee shop, sink right behind the counter.

Wait…a coffee shop? I would be mad if it was a restaurant where I paid for food, but it sort of makes sense for a place that makes most of its money from selling beverages.