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Anonymous wrote:Several studies have shown such a mass transit line would have practically zero ridership.

what study, and the study include the rail connecting to the metro line?

I know several people that work in NoVA and live in Montgomery County. There is just no way someone will drive from Potomac to Derwood, park and get on the Red Line. Get off at Strathmore and get on a different transit system to take them to Tysons and then need to get back on Metro to get to Reston Town Center or wherever. Just walk through the logistics of that. It’s utter nonsense.

Oh well if an anonymous people on a message board knows several people would wouldn’t use it then it must be correct that such a transit line would have practically zero ridership.

I would use it bit I am only one person and not several so you win!

Why don’t you define the market for this hypothetical transit service? Who do you think would take it, from where to where, and for what purpose?

No, the person who is saying that there is zero market for this can do that. I said I would take it, I didn’t say that lots of people would take it. The PP said there was no market for it with no backup. I did not say without backup that there was a robust market for it

You’re a total clown. You also believe that no one would take this very expensive to build and operate light rail but still want to argue over it. Do you even live in Montgomery County?

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Anonymous wrote:Several studies have shown such a mass transit line would have practically zero ridership.

what study, and the study include the rail connecting to the metro line?

I know several people that work in NoVA and live in Montgomery County. There is just no way someone will drive from Potomac to Derwood, park and get on the Red Line. Get off at Strathmore and get on a different transit system to take them to Tysons and then need to get back on Metro to get to Reston Town Center or wherever. Just walk through the logistics of that. It’s utter nonsense.

Oh well if an anonymous people on a message board knows several people would wouldn’t use it then it must be correct that such a transit line would have practically zero ridership.

I would use it bit I am only one person and not several so you win!

Why don’t you define the market for this hypothetical transit service? Who do you think would take it, from where to where, and for what purpose?

No, the person who is saying that there is zero market for this can do that. I said I would take it, I didn’t say that lots of people would take it. The PP said there was no market for it with no backup. I did not say without backup that there was a robust market for it

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Anonymous wrote:Several studies have shown such a mass transit line would have practically zero ridership.

what study, and the study include the rail connecting to the metro line?

I know several people that work in NoVA and live in Montgomery County. There is just no way someone will drive from Potomac to Derwood, park and get on the Red Line. Get off at Strathmore and get on a different transit system to take them to Tysons and then need to get back on Metro to get to Reston Town Center or wherever. Just walk through the logistics of that. It’s utter nonsense.

Oh well if an anonymous people on a message board knows several people would wouldn’t use it then it must be correct that such a transit line would have practically zero ridership.

I would use it bit I am only one person and not several so you win!

Why don’t you define the market for this hypothetical transit service? Who do you think would take it, from where to where, and for what purpose?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several studies have shown such a mass transit line would have practically zero ridership.

what study, and the study include the rail connecting to the metro line?

I know several people that work in NoVA and live in Montgomery County. There is just no way someone will drive from Potomac to Derwood, park and get on the Red Line. Get off at Strathmore and get on a different transit system to take them to Tysons and then need to get back on Metro to get to Reston Town Center or wherever. Just walk through the logistics of that. It’s utter nonsense.

Oh well if an anonymous people on a message board knows several people would wouldn’t use it then it must be correct that such a transit line would have practically zero ridership.

I would use it bit I am only one person and not several so you win!

Anonymous wrote:The Fed gov't would pay for most of the building costs (but not maintenance costs) since it's an interstate highway improvement that benefits more than one state, as is tyipcal for such projects.

The bike path thing was slipped in there to improve the chance of approval.

As for LR, it would need to connect to Tysons Silver Line, and be an extension of the Purple Line, but that wil be tough as the Purple Line extension past Bethesda would use the Capital Crescent Trail (formerly a rail line) and people would go nuts over that.

The CCT goes in, and the beltway/ALB are, you know, out. So how would that work?

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Anonymous wrote:Several studies have shown such a mass transit line would have practically zero ridership.

what study, and the study include the rail connecting to the metro line?

I know several people that work in NoVA and live in Montgomery County. There is just no way someone will drive from Potomac to Derwood, park and get on the Red Line. Get off at Strathmore and get on a different transit system to take them to Tysons and then need to get back on Metro to get to Reston Town Center or wherever. Just walk through the logistics of that. It’s utter nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:A pedestrian walkway is absolutely needed. It would connect the C&O canal to the Potomac Heritage Trail on the Virginia side.
Anyone who has walked this are knows its long overdue for a pedestrian walkway.
That said, there is no biking on the Virginia of the river. However I think the bike lane would connect to a neighborhood on the Virginia.

If you have never been below the ALB, its well worth hiking in that area. Especially the Virginia side. Very beautiful

A pedestrian walkway on a major interstate highway is nonsense and frankly stupid. Chain Bridge already exists and accomplishes your goal of connecting trails. Cycling is illegal on both the GW and Clara Barton Parkways.

Anonymous wrote:Several studies have shown such a mass transit line would have practically zero ridership.

what study, and the study include the rail connecting to the metro line?

Several studies have shown such a mass transit line would have practically zero ridership.

I like the idea. One of the reasons why I don't want to cross the river for work is because even though I'm less than 10miles from McLean, it would take me an hour to get there during peak traffic. But, agree with the PP, there has to be some kind of mass transit at the other end on both sides.

In MoCo, that could mean the light rail could stop near the red line, and in NoVa, near the silver line.

Currently, to go into NoVa from MoCo, you have to take the redline into DC then switch. That would take like 2 hours.

And actually, I think a lightrail above the 495 beltway, connecting to the metro line would be a good idea.

BUT, the devil is in the details. I used to live in the Bay Area, and voted for the high speed rail. That was a disaster. I'm much more hesitant now to support these types of initiatives, even though on the surface, it sounds like a good idea.

A pedestrian walkway is absolutely needed. It would connect the C&O canal to the Potomac Heritage Trail on the Virginia side.
Anyone who has walked this are knows its long overdue for a pedestrian walkway.
That said, there is no biking on the Virginia of the river. However I think the bike lane would connect to a neighborhood on the Virginia.

If you have never been below the ALB, its well worth hiking in that area. Especially the Virginia side. Very beautiful

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Anonymous wrote:The Fed gov't would pay for most of the building costs (but not maintenance costs) since it's an interstate highway improvement that benefits more than one state, as is tyipcal for such projects.

The bike path thing was slipped in there to improve the chance of approval.

As for LR, it would need to connect to Tysons Silver Line, and be an extension of the Purple Line, but that wil be tough as the Purple Line extension past Bethesda would use the Capital Crescent Trail (formerly a rail line) and people would go nuts over that.

The Federal government would not “pay for most of the cost”. That’s not how it works.

A Purple Line extension along the CCT would not be on the ALB but require it’s own crossing at Brookmont near DLA, check a map.

Bikes are not allowed on the beltway so a bike path on the ALB would be idiotic and not needed for approval. The current tolled HOT lane plan is actually ready for approval except that Mayor Pete is intentionally dragging his feet and playing politics.

I believe the Bridge is Maryland's responsibility and so far it has done nothing.

The Potomac river is in Maryland, so the majority of the cost to rebuild the bridge would be borne by Maryland. Some of those funds could come from Federal dollars, however it would be at the expense of other infrastructure priorities in the state. Most of the cost would be the direct responsibility of the state of Maryland, hence the PPP proposal.

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Anonymous wrote:The Fed gov't would pay for most of the building costs (but not maintenance costs) since it's an interstate highway improvement that benefits more than one state, as is tyipcal for such projects.

The bike path thing was slipped in there to improve the chance of approval.

As for LR, it would need to connect to Tysons Silver Line, and be an extension of the Purple Line, but that wil be tough as the Purple Line extension past Bethesda would use the Capital Crescent Trail (formerly a rail line) and people would go nuts over that.

The Federal government would not “pay for most of the cost”. That’s not how it works.

A Purple Line extension along the CCT would not be on the ALB but require it’s own crossing at Brookmont near DLA, check a map.

Bikes are not allowed on the beltway so a bike path on the ALB would be idiotic and not needed for approval. The current tolled HOT lane plan is actually ready for approval except that Mayor Pete is intentionally dragging his feet and playing politics.

I believe the Bridge is Maryland's responsibility and so far it has done nothing.

Bike lanes on the bridge are in the plan. It's described here:
https://oplanesmd.com/alb-relief-plan-benefits/

Anonymous wrote:The Fed gov't would pay for most of the building costs (but not maintenance costs) since it's an interstate highway improvement that benefits more than one state, as is tyipcal for such projects.

The bike path thing was slipped in there to improve the chance of approval.

As for LR, it would need to connect to Tysons Silver Line, and be an extension of the Purple Line, but that wil be tough as the Purple Line extension past Bethesda would use the Capital Crescent Trail (formerly a rail line) and people would go nuts over that.

The Federal government would not “pay for most of the cost”. That’s not how it works.

A Purple Line extension along the CCT would not be on the ALB but require it’s own crossing at Brookmont near DLA, check a map.

Bikes are not allowed on the beltway so a bike path on the ALB would be idiotic and not needed for approval. The current tolled HOT lane plan is actually ready for approval except that Mayor Pete is intentionally dragging his feet and playing politics.