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Anonymous wrote:the only D1 offer he would get would have athletic scholarship money included -- that's what the National Letter of Intent is. More info at nationalletter.org, including consequences of breaking the contract.

Not true. Not every player on a D1 team is a scholarship athlete.

Generally the term "offer" is reserved for athletes receiving a scholarship (the ones who sign on NLI day).

I think you’ll find plenty of D1 commits don’t receive athletic scholarships.

I know, I was one -- I received a few (partial) scholarship offers, but ended up playing/attending an Ivy. I know this is all just semantic nonsense, but I never received an "offer" from my school because they don't give athletic money.

All this D1 - everyone gets a scholarship, is just not true. Most get partial offers (like a 2 and 2) or a small award. D1 is a lot of work, most kids give up a lot to often sit on the bench all year, the competition is ferocious and that’s why D1 schools are always recruiting - a lot of kids quit…then wonder how they ended up at a lesser college than their academics would support. D1 is a great place to be if you play and get a load of money, but, that’s not every D1 commit. Our DD had multiple D1 offers, some with money, some without but all at schools she could have got into easily with her academics. Took one look at the roster, realized she wouldn’t play for at least 2 years, so went D3 NESCAC and couldn’t be happier. D1 is a shark pit in my view, unless you are a superstar.

I sort of agree with all this. We are just now starting the process and he is getting interest/offers from lower D1 schools, where he can easily get in with his grades alone. He's likely be riding the bench for the first 2 years... Not to mention that the schools interested are super expensive! Like we have to pay them 80K per year in order for him to go there and ride the bench, what?!. We are starting to evaluate some D3 options or just not playing at all. My husband sees the whole thing as a scam. LOL!

It’s not really a scam and not necessarily a shark pit, depending on team culture. People just need to realize recruitment is a transaction. You figure out what the most important things are for your kid in their college search (which I personally think should always be the opportunity that provides access to the best academics the family can afford if the kid is a good student). Then, you see what kind of schools are interested in a kid with with that talent level and academic profile and decide whether the offer is worth any trade offs.

Most kids with parents on DCUM are going to end up happy if their kid is able to use their sports talents to get admitted to a top D3 or D1 academic school regardless of how much the kid ends up playing. There are kids on my child’s very competitive D1 team who have gotten only a handful of minutes three years into their time on the team. They are still loving the team experience and opportunity to be at an elite school, and the ones who didn’t think it was worth it to put the time in if they weren’t going to play are still very happy to be at the school. And if a kid is so obsessed with playing that she wants to accept a no-money offer at an expensive school she could have gotten into easily with academics alone, and her parents let her do this, that’s not a scam either, just a family making a choice that many of us wouldn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:the only D1 offer he would get would have athletic scholarship money included -- that's what the National Letter of Intent is. More info at nationalletter.org, including consequences of breaking the contract.

Not true. Not every player on a D1 team is a scholarship athlete.

+1

100% of the Ivy League (D1) athletic recruits are non-scholarship.

It's amazing how those "foundations" offer them grant in aid and the like.

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Anonymous wrote:the only D1 offer he would get would have athletic scholarship money included -- that's what the National Letter of Intent is. More info at nationalletter.org, including consequences of breaking the contract.

Not true. Not every player on a D1 team is a scholarship athlete.

Generally the term "offer" is reserved for athletes receiving a scholarship (the ones who sign on NLI day).

No, formal scholarship offers with NLI are a subset of the commitments you can make as a recruit. Like PPs said, a D1 commitment for a an offer for a non-scholarship spot is the same as a D3 or Ivy commitment, and it would be pretty crappy for OP’s kid to commit if he intends to apply to other schools, because that screws over both the coach and the kids who would have loved to honor a commitment to play for that coach and team.

Maybe, but never forget that coaches are always looking out for #1 and drop (even ghost) recruits in a heartbeat when a better player comes along.

Some coaches do this, but the majority do not, in my fairly extensive experience with a couple of sports.

Anonymous wrote:the only D1 offer he would get would have athletic scholarship money included -- that's what the National Letter of Intent is. More info at nationalletter.org, including consequences of breaking the contract.

You can very easily commit without signing a NLI. It's called a verbal commitment.
Yes, your son can apply to any school he wants whenever he wants.
If your son signed a NLI, you will have to deal with the consequences but in the history of sports NLI - there are none. It's not a big deal to change your mind.

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Anonymous wrote:the only D1 offer he would get would have athletic scholarship money included -- that's what the National Letter of Intent is. More info at nationalletter.org, including consequences of breaking the contract.

Not true. Not every player on a D1 team is a scholarship athlete.

Generally the term "offer" is reserved for athletes receiving a scholarship (the ones who sign on NLI day).

I think you’ll find plenty of D1 commits don’t receive athletic scholarships.

I know, I was one -- I received a few (partial) scholarship offers, but ended up playing/attending an Ivy. I know this is all just semantic nonsense, but I never received an "offer" from my school because they don't give athletic money.

All this D1 - everyone gets a scholarship, is just not true. Most get partial offers (like a 2 and 2) or a small award. D1 is a lot of work, most kids give up a lot to often sit on the bench all year, the competition is ferocious and that’s why D1 schools are always recruiting - a lot of kids quit…then wonder how they ended up at a lesser college than their academics would support. D1 is a great place to be if you play and get a load of money, but, that’s not every D1 commit. Our DD had multiple D1 offers, some with money, some without but all at schools she could have got into easily with her academics. Took one look at the roster, realized she wouldn’t play for at least 2 years, so went D3 NESCAC and couldn’t be happier. D1 is a shark pit in my view, unless you are a superstar.

I sort of agree with all this. We are just now starting the process and he is getting interest/offers from lower D1 schools, where he can easily get in with his grades alone. He's likely be riding the bench for the first 2 years... Not to mention that the schools interested are super expensive! Like we have to pay them 80K per year in order for him to go there and ride the bench, what?!. We are starting to evaluate some D3 options or just not playing at all. My husband sees the whole thing as a scam. LOL!

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Anonymous wrote:the only D1 offer he would get would have athletic scholarship money included -- that's what the National Letter of Intent is. More info at nationalletter.org, including consequences of breaking the contract.

Not true. Not every player on a D1 team is a scholarship athlete.

Generally the term "offer" is reserved for athletes receiving a scholarship (the ones who sign on NLI day).

I think you’ll find plenty of D1 commits don’t receive athletic scholarships.

I know, I was one -- I received a few (partial) scholarship offers, but ended up playing/attending an Ivy. I know this is all just semantic nonsense, but I never received an "offer" from my school because they don't give athletic money.

All this D1 - everyone gets a scholarship, is just not true. Most get partial offers (like a 2 and 2) or a small award. D1 is a lot of work, most kids give up a lot to often sit on the bench all year, the competition is ferocious and that’s why D1 schools are always recruiting - a lot of kids quit…then wonder how they ended up at a lesser college than their academics would support. D1 is a great place to be if you play and get a load of money, but, that’s not every D1 commit. Our DD had multiple D1 offers, some with money, some without but all at schools she could have got into easily with her academics. Took one look at the roster, realized she wouldn’t play for at least 2 years, so went D3 NESCAC and couldn’t be happier. D1 is a shark pit in my view, unless you are a superstar.