Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 10:01     Subject: Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
DCPS salaries are public. my kid's geometry teacher--5 years experience (no master's degree) makes $58k. my other kid's algebra 2 teacher makes $78K with a masters degree in teaching.
The privates pay at this level or worse. it's really bad.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 10:01     Subject: Re:Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All those years DCUM parents ranted about one thing or another, always ending in, "If the teachers don't like it, they can go do something else!"

Now they have, and those control freak parents have no answer. I haven't heard about any privates raising pay enough to make a difference. The well-paid administrators just keep doing the same old.

I left privates during COVID and moved to a DC charter for much better pay (still barely enough to live on, but that's not an issue for me) and sterling management that still surprises me every day for their genuine commitment to education over money and status.

The chickens have come home to roost. This was a very long time in the making.


Would you be willing to share specific salary amounts ?

I have no idea what teachers are paid.


That's part of the problem. Parents write a check for $50K and assume that a good part of it goes to the teachers. Not necessarily. Most private education schools and companies direct most of the money upward.

Roughly speaking, it's the difference between mid-5 figures in private to higher 5-figures in charters and public.

If you wanted to start a private with the best teachers around, start them all at $100K and watch the stars flock in. All a school has to do is eat their profit margin somewhere else to be something truly special.

But they don't, as far as I know.


Private schools don’t have a profit margin (except maybe BASIS?).

You could argue that admin pay should be reduced, but most HOS of schools main job is fundraising so that may be a net zero gain.

Facilities are expensive that’s true.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 09:59     Subject: Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Covid also disproportionately affected working women, and teachers are mostly women. The burden of a stressful demanding job during a crisis and the demands of their own families/children, who may have been virtual for extended periods, frequent closures, etc. It's just not worth it to stay in the workforce for meager pay and those increased demands.

Also, Private school teachers don't have unions to protect their interests.


Stop blaming covid. Most privates were open all last year and many the prior year. The issue is pay and the environment.


I agree. I'm just pointing out the added stressors. Private schools were open, but it was harder teach, especially in the 20-21 school year. And many teachers have children who did not attend school ok person.


That goes back to the salary. Staff kids should go for free or very reduced cost.


Thought they did?!


No. It is usually a very small reduction. My younger DD’s school tried to recruit me for years, but offered a 10% discount.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 09:57     Subject: Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Our K-8 does not have any vacancies for full-time teachers. They are advertising for substitutes and 2 aftercare staff positions.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 09:52     Subject: Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
My DD is a teacher in Arlington County. Makes around $85k with 10+ years experience and two master's degrees.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 09:45     Subject: Re:Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
I ask again for specifics regarding private and public school teacher salaries. I know a few couples with both working as high school teachers and love their jobs and do not complain about pay, but none live in high cost areas such as NYC, DC, San Francisco, etc.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 09:43     Subject: Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Covid also disproportionately affected working women, and teachers are mostly women. The burden of a stressful demanding job during a crisis and the demands of their own families/children, who may have been virtual for extended periods, frequent closures, etc. It's just not worth it to stay in the workforce for meager pay and those increased demands.

Also, Private school teachers don't have unions to protect their interests.


Stop blaming covid. Most privates were open all last year and many the prior year. The issue is pay and the environment.


I agree. I'm just pointing out the added stressors. Private schools were open, but it was harder teach, especially in the 20-21 school year. And many teachers have children who did not attend school ok person.


That goes back to the salary. Staff kids should go for free or very reduced cost.


Thought they did?!
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 09:40     Subject: Re:Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
In regard to pay, raises also factor in. I left a school this year (moved to a new one for next year, both independents). I left for MANY reasons, one of which was the “raises” they gave did not come any where near to keeping up with COLA, changes in cost to benefits, etc. The school I left had a pay scale with steps, but each step increase was around 1k. It’s demoralizing to look at the trajectory of your salary and see that you won’t come close to 6 figures until you’ve been at the school for 30 years (with advanced degrees).
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 09:17     Subject: Re:Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All those years DCUM parents ranted about one thing or another, always ending in, "If the teachers don't like it, they can go do something else!"

Now they have, and those control freak parents have no answer. I haven't heard about any privates raising pay enough to make a difference. The well-paid administrators just keep doing the same old.

I left privates during COVID and moved to a DC charter for much better pay (still barely enough to live on, but that's not an issue for me) and sterling management that still surprises me every day for their genuine commitment to education over money and status.

The chickens have come home to roost. This was a very long time in the making.


Would you be willing to share specific salary amounts ?

I have no idea what teachers are paid.


That's part of the problem. Parents write a check for $50K and assume that a good part of it goes to the teachers. Not necessarily. Most private education schools and companies direct most of the money upward.

Roughly speaking, it's the difference between mid-5 figures in private to higher 5-figures in charters and public.

If you wanted to start a private with the best teachers around, start them all at $100K and watch the stars flock in. All a school has to do is eat their profit margin somewhere else to be something truly special.

But they don't, as far as I know.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 09:07     Subject: Re:Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Anonymous wrote:All those years DCUM parents ranted about one thing or another, always ending in, "If the teachers don't like it, they can go do something else!"

Now they have, and those control freak parents have no answer. I haven't heard about any privates raising pay enough to make a difference. The well-paid administrators just keep doing the same old.

I left privates during COVID and moved to a DC charter for much better pay (still barely enough to live on, but that's not an issue for me) and sterling management that still surprises me every day for their genuine commitment to education over money and status.

The chickens have come home to roost. This was a very long time in the making.


Would you be willing to share specific salary amounts ?

I have no idea what teachers are paid.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 09:01     Subject: Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Covid also disproportionately affected working women, and teachers are mostly women. The burden of a stressful demanding job during a crisis and the demands of their own families/children, who may have been virtual for extended periods, frequent closures, etc. It's just not worth it to stay in the workforce for meager pay and those increased demands.

Also, Private school teachers don't have unions to protect their interests.


Stop blaming covid. Most privates were open all last year and many the prior year. The issue is pay and the environment.


I agree. I'm just pointing out the added stressors. Private schools were open, but it was harder teach, especially in the 20-21 school year. And many teachers have children who did not attend school ok person.


That goes back to the salary. Staff kids should go for free or very reduced cost.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 08:59     Subject: Re:Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
All those years DCUM parents ranted about one thing or another, always ending in, "If the teachers don't like it, they can go do something else!"

Now they have, and those control freak parents have no answer. I haven't heard about any privates raising pay enough to make a difference. The well-paid administrators just keep doing the same old.

I left privates during COVID and moved to a DC charter for much better pay (still barely enough to live on, but that's not an issue for me) and sterling management that still surprises me every day for their genuine commitment to education over money and status.

The chickens have come home to roost. This was a very long time in the making.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 08:25     Subject: Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Covid also disproportionately affected working women, and teachers are mostly women. The burden of a stressful demanding job during a crisis and the demands of their own families/children, who may have been virtual for extended periods, frequent closures, etc. It's just not worth it to stay in the workforce for meager pay and those increased demands.

Also, Private school teachers don't have unions to protect their interests.


Stop blaming covid. Most privates were open all last year and many the prior year. The issue is pay and the environment.


I agree. I'm just pointing out the added stressors. Private schools were open, but it was harder teach, especially in the 20-21 school year. And many teachers have children who did not attend school ok person.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 08:19     Subject: Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Not to mention there is a whole generation of under socialized kids who have no idea how to behave in a classroom.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2022 07:44     Subject: Re:Area Private School Teacher Shortage?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Significantly increase the salary. Currently not enough money for all the bs they go through.


This is the problem. Horrible pay, a lot of out of control parents, awful admin making a lot of money. Equals bye great teachers !


And they will have to because this coming year will be another disaster with more students in the classroom because not enough teachers. More students equals more grading, more parents complaining, more teachers quitting.