Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They haven’t communicated to parents that there is an outbreak? That’s pretty irresponsible. I know of two camps this summer that had significant outbreaks and they were great at keeping parents informed.
What difference would it make, really? High risk kids aren't going to sleep away camp.
That's quite an assumption. My child's camp had high risk campers attending, but they took precautions that most of dcum would scoff at, including universal testing at drop off and every day the first 3 days, eating by cabin, and masking everywhere indoors and in large group settings outside. It worked: no covid and high risk kids could have a normal summer. That's what it means to be inclusive.
That's responsible behavior. Music camp? One of my kids is a musician, and I feel the music world is more reasonable than some other activities.
No, a Jewish camp that takes seriously its commitment to be inclusive of campers with disabilities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They haven’t communicated to parents that there is an outbreak? That’s pretty irresponsible. I know of two camps this summer that had significant outbreaks and they were great at keeping parents informed.
What difference would it make, really? High risk kids aren't going to sleep away camp.
That's quite an assumption. My child's camp had high risk campers attending, but they took precautions that most of dcum would scoff at, including universal testing at drop off and every day the first 3 days, eating by cabin, and masking everywhere indoors and in large group settings outside. It worked: no covid and high risk kids could have a normal summer. That's what it means to be inclusive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They haven’t communicated to parents that there is an outbreak? That’s pretty irresponsible. I know of two camps this summer that had significant outbreaks and they were great at keeping parents informed.
What difference would it make, really? High risk kids aren't going to sleep away camp.
That's quite an assumption. My child's camp had high risk campers attending, but they took precautions that most of dcum would scoff at, including universal testing at drop off and every day the first 3 days, eating by cabin, and masking everywhere indoors and in large group settings outside. It worked: no covid and high risk kids could have a normal summer. That's what it means to be inclusive.
That's responsible behavior. Music camp? One of my kids is a musician, and I feel the music world is more reasonable than some other activities.
No, a Jewish camp that takes seriously its commitment to be inclusive of campers with disabilities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our kid was at CHM for two weeks and just got back this weekend. The testing upon arrival was not cursory in our opinion. They did the rapid test - waited the 15 minutes and checked. When a few people started to come down with symptoms the end of week one/beginning of week 2 they tested them. Positive cases were isolated and picked up. They set up a cabin for positive cases who needed to stay overnight because parents couldn’t pick them up right away. They did test people with symptoms. Did they test everyone with any symptoms? Probably not - I don’t know what parameters they were using, but I think they did a good job of communicating. Should they have tested everyone again - symptomatic or not? That is a hard call and one the camp needs to make. They did refer to a camp cold, but that does happen at sleepaway camps, and most of the campers who were tested were negative for COVID, so maybe there was a cold and COVID at the same time, maybe not, but I don’t think parents would want to pick up kids with symptoms who test negative. I was thankful ours made it through the two weeks! We have tested now twice upon return to be sure, but both were negative.
I'd be curious to know how the camp determined whether someone had symptoms. Did it run through a checklist of symptoms within the past X days? Or did it simply allow the testing folks to use their judgment as to whether someone had symptoms?
I would think that if someone had symptoms, yet tested negative on a rapid test, they should not be allowed into camp. CDC guidelines say that if someone is symptomatic, but is antigen negative, a confirmatory NAAT (PCR) "should take place as soon as possible after the antigen test, and not longer than 48 hours after the initial antigen testing. . . . If performing serial antigen testing, wait 24-48 hours between tests."[/quote
Define "Symptom." Anything other than a fever is a ridiculous rule. No kids with allergies should be allowed at camp? Or kids who are snuffly because they have been teary at drop off? What about kids who get carsick?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Our kid was at CHM for two weeks and just got back this weekend. The testing upon arrival was not cursory in our opinion. They did the rapid test - waited the 15 minutes and checked. When a few people started to come down with symptoms the end of week one/beginning of week 2 they tested them. Positive cases were isolated and picked up. They set up a cabin for positive cases who needed to stay overnight because parents couldn’t pick them up right away. They did test people with symptoms. Did they test everyone with any symptoms? Probably not - I don’t know what parameters they were using, but I think they did a good job of communicating. Should they have tested everyone again - symptomatic or not? That is a hard call and one the camp needs to make. They did refer to a camp cold, but that does happen at sleepaway camps, and most of the campers who were tested were negative for COVID, so maybe there was a cold and COVID at the same time, maybe not, but I don’t think parents would want to pick up kids with symptoms who test negative. I was thankful ours made it through the two weeks! We have tested now twice upon return to be sure, but both were negative.
I'd be curious to know how the camp determined whether someone had symptoms. Did it run through a checklist of symptoms within the past X days? Or did it simply allow the testing folks to use their judgment as to whether someone had symptoms?
I would think that if someone had symptoms, yet tested negative on a rapid test, they should not be allowed into camp. CDC guidelines say that if someone is symptomatic, but is antigen negative, a confirmatory NAAT (PCR) "should take place as soon as possible after the antigen test, and not longer than 48 hours after the initial antigen testing. . . . If performing serial antigen testing, wait 24-48 hours between tests."[/quote
Define "Symptom." Anything other than a fever is a ridiculous rule. No kids with allergies should be allowed at camp? Or kids who are snuffly because they have been teary at drop off? What about kids who get carsick?
Anonymous wrote:Our kid was at CHM for two weeks and just got back this weekend. The testing upon arrival was not cursory in our opinion. They did the rapid test - waited the 15 minutes and checked. When a few people started to come down with symptoms the end of week one/beginning of week 2 they tested them. Positive cases were isolated and picked up. They set up a cabin for positive cases who needed to stay overnight because parents couldn’t pick them up right away. They did test people with symptoms. Did they test everyone with any symptoms? Probably not - I don’t know what parameters they were using, but I think they did a good job of communicating. Should they have tested everyone again - symptomatic or not? That is a hard call and one the camp needs to make. They did refer to a camp cold, but that does happen at sleepaway camps, and most of the campers who were tested were negative for COVID, so maybe there was a cold and COVID at the same time, maybe not, but I don’t think parents would want to pick up kids with symptoms who test negative. I was thankful ours made it through the two weeks! We have tested now twice upon return to be sure, but both were negative.
Anonymous wrote:The counselors and CITs are getting sick.
Look it happens.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They haven’t communicated to parents that there is an outbreak? That’s pretty irresponsible. I know of two camps this summer that had significant outbreaks and they were great at keeping parents informed.
What difference would it make, really? High risk kids aren't going to sleep away camp.
That's quite an assumption. My child's camp had high risk campers attending, but they took precautions that most of dcum would scoff at, including universal testing at drop off and every day the first 3 days, eating by cabin, and masking everywhere indoors and in large group settings outside. It worked: no covid and high risk kids could have a normal summer. That's what it means to be inclusive.
Anonymous wrote:Why in the hell are you asking here instead of calling the camp directly? So odd.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They haven’t communicated to parents that there is an outbreak? That’s pretty irresponsible. I know of two camps this summer that had significant outbreaks and they were great at keeping parents informed.
What difference would it make, really? High risk kids aren't going to sleep away camp.
That's quite an assumption. My child's camp had high risk campers attending, but they took precautions that most of dcum would scoff at, including universal testing at drop off and every day the first 3 days, eating by cabin, and masking everywhere indoors and in large group settings outside. It worked: no covid and high risk kids could have a normal summer. That's what it means to be inclusive.
That's responsible behavior. Music camp? One of my kids is a musician, and I feel the music world is more reasonable than some other activities.