Anonymous
07/29/2022 09:15
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Covid messaging: you’re a selfish moron for going to the beach
Monkeypox messaging: we humbly suggest you don’t French kiss at your orgy (that you definitely should still have)
Monkeypox messaging: we humbly suggest you don’t French kiss at your orgy (that you definitely should still have)
Anonymous
07/29/2022 09:04
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. And the new scale is based on hospitalizations, not just cases. The new variant is more transmissible, and so many people just aren't even trying anymore. We are up to 400+ deaths a day from COVID, and people act like it's over.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I question that number.
400+ a day is also as low as its been at any time since COVID started other than than summer of 2021. The tragic reality of COVID is that it's not going anywhere. and it kills a lot of people.
400 isn't really that many. Almost 3 million people die in the US each year. It's not like Covid robbed us of immortality.
That's a jumbo jet crash a day, in addition to the deaths that would normally have occurred.
That’s what I said. Not many. And that doesn’t even account for those dying that were at high risk from dying soon from something else.
You can account for them by looking at the excess death statistics. I understand that you have talking points in hand about how to respond to them, but for others reading along: let me assure you that they are unpleasant to contemplate.
Also, no, "a jumbo jet crash a day" is not "what you said". You said it's "not many." I think the 400 people who died avoidably yesterday mattered, as will the 400 who will die avoidably tomorrow.
Yes, almost 3 million people die each year in the US. In January 2021, there were 4,000 people dying from Covid each day. So, 400 is not many. In any event, you can have 853 passengers on an Airbus 380. So, it's not even half of that. I realize you're into stupid analogies and all...
Anonymous
07/29/2022 09:02
Subject: Re:Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
This is easy to answer, because you covid crazy people keep testing even when YOU FEEL ABSOLUTELY FINE. More tests=more positives=high.
If you were like the rest of the country (world?) and only tested when you were actually sick, you'd be like everyone else.
If you were like the rest of the country (world?) and only tested when you were actually sick, you'd be like everyone else.
Anonymous
07/29/2022 08:17
Subject: Re:Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Someone at work mentioned it is; I don't know how they're privy to this information. They said when the map is updated tonight, Montgomery County, MD will be in the "high" category.
I find this remarkable, given how strongly MoCo is vaxxed and how mask crazy people have been for two years. How does this happen?
Sadly, this means I'll have to mask at work again.
I guess your co-worker was wrong. MoCo still medium this morning.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 19:09
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. And the new scale is based on hospitalizations, not just cases. The new variant is more transmissible, and so many people just aren't even trying anymore. We are up to 400+ deaths a day from COVID, and people act like it's over.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I question that number.
400+ a day is also as low as its been at any time since COVID started other than than summer of 2021. The tragic reality of COVID is that it's not going anywhere. and it kills a lot of people.
400 isn't really that many. Almost 3 million people die in the US each year. It's not like Covid robbed us of immortality.
If you’re one of the 400, or someone who loved them, it’s too many. I have no idea if the number is accurate, too high, or too low, but when it’s personal, it’s too many.
Moreover, it’s not a binary outcome where either you die or you fully recover and carry on as before. We know some people have “long COVID”, but we don’t know what factors determine if you develop long COVID nor how long long COVID can last.
Here’s an article from the AMA about long COVID, explaining that there are actually 3 types, one of which occurs after recovery:
https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-long-covid
Not to mention COVID is new. Last I heard, they were still finding residual problems even in patients that had experienced mild COVID and apparently recovered. If we’re still discovering effects from original COVID, we may not even know what to look for to see how the variants are effecting us, and this is for short term damage.
We can’t even begin to guess at long term effects. If COVID can cause mental impairment, even if patients probably recover, will they be more susceptible to Alzheimer’s/dementia? If COVID has damaged the heart, are people going to be more likely to have heart attacks at an earlier age? What about pulmonary and vascular issues? Maybe you survive and seem to recover, but your life is 20 years shorter than it would have otherwise been. Maybe you still live to a ripe old age, but instead of an active, vital retirement, your “golden years” are spent in weakness and pain, dependent on others.
That article states that breakthrough infections in vaccinated people is rare. That seems...inaccurate.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 18:52
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. And the new scale is based on hospitalizations, not just cases. The new variant is more transmissible, and so many people just aren't even trying anymore. We are up to 400+ deaths a day from COVID, and people act like it's over.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I question that number.
400+ a day is also as low as its been at any time since COVID started other than than summer of 2021. The tragic reality of COVID is that it's not going anywhere. and it kills a lot of people.
400 isn't really that many. Almost 3 million people die in the US each year. It's not like Covid robbed us of immortality.
If you’re one of the 400, or someone who loved them, it’s too many. I have no idea if the number is accurate, too high, or too low, but when it’s personal, it’s too many.
Moreover, it’s not a binary outcome where either you die or you fully recover and carry on as before. We know some people have “long COVID”, but we don’t know what factors determine if you develop long COVID nor how long long COVID can last.
Here’s an article from the AMA about long COVID, explaining that there are actually 3 types, one of which occurs after recovery:
https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-long-covid
Not to mention COVID is new. Last I heard, they were still finding residual problems even in patients that had experienced mild COVID and apparently recovered. If we’re still discovering effects from original COVID, we may not even know what to look for to see how the variants are effecting us, and this is for short term damage.
We can’t even begin to guess at long term effects. If COVID can cause mental impairment, even if patients probably recover, will they be more susceptible to Alzheimer’s/dementia? If COVID has damaged the heart, are people going to be more likely to have heart attacks at an earlier age? What about pulmonary and vascular issues? Maybe you survive and seem to recover, but your life is 20 years shorter than it would have otherwise been. Maybe you still live to a ripe old age, but instead of an active, vital retirement, your “golden years” are spent in weakness and pain, dependent on others.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 17:41
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. And the new scale is based on hospitalizations, not just cases. The new variant is more transmissible, and so many people just aren't even trying anymore. We are up to 400+ deaths a day from COVID, and people act like it's over.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I question that number.
400+ a day is also as low as its been at any time since COVID started other than than summer of 2021. The tragic reality of COVID is that it's not going anywhere. and it kills a lot of people.
400 isn't really that many. Almost 3 million people die in the US each year. It's not like Covid robbed us of immortality.
That's a jumbo jet crash a day, in addition to the deaths that would normally have occurred.
That’s what I said. Not many. And that doesn’t even account for those dying that were at high risk from dying soon from something else.
You can account for them by looking at the excess death statistics. I understand that you have talking points in hand about how to respond to them, but for others reading along: let me assure you that they are unpleasant to contemplate.
Also, no, "a jumbo jet crash a day" is not "what you said". You said it's "not many." I think the 400 people who died avoidably yesterday mattered, as will the 400 who will die avoidably tomorrow.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 13:59
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. And the new scale is based on hospitalizations, not just cases. The new variant is more transmissible, and so many people just aren't even trying anymore. We are up to 400+ deaths a day from COVID, and people act like it's over.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I question that number.
Dying with covid. Not surprising—terminally sick people go to the hospital germ factory and surprise, they have covid. It’s also probably rampant in nursing homes again, so the folks there are also dying with covid.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 13:42
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. And the new scale is based on hospitalizations, not just cases. The new variant is more transmissible, and so many people just aren't even trying anymore. We are up to 400+ deaths a day from COVID, and people act like it's over.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I question that number.
400+ a day is also as low as its been at any time since COVID started other than than summer of 2021. The tragic reality of COVID is that it's not going anywhere. and it kills a lot of people.
400 isn't really that many. Almost 3 million people die in the US each year. It's not like Covid robbed us of immortality.
That's a jumbo jet crash a day, in addition to the deaths that would normally have occurred.
That’s what I said. Not many. And that doesn’t even account for those dying that were at high risk from dying soon from something else.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 13:27
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. And the new scale is based on hospitalizations, not just cases. The new variant is more transmissible, and so many people just aren't even trying anymore. We are up to 400+ deaths a day from COVID, and people act like it's over.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I question that number.
400+ a day is also as low as its been at any time since COVID started other than than summer of 2021. The tragic reality of COVID is that it's not going anywhere. and it kills a lot of people.
400 isn't really that many. Almost 3 million people die in the US each year. It's not like Covid robbed us of immortality.
That's a jumbo jet crash a day, in addition to the deaths that would normally have occurred.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 13:23
Subject: Re:Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Hi OP. Yes, MoCo is going to high. Just wanted to pop in to clarify that transmission has been relatively similar for most of the summer, actually. What has increased is hospitalizations, which are a lagging indicator. What that means is that it has taken a few weeks for the BA5 variant to cause hospitalizations, but now it has actually passed them beyond the threshold the CDC set to push us into the high category. So it’s not any more or less safe from a transmission-only standpoint. I personally felt transmission was already high enough to warrant a mask indoors if I wanted to avoid infection. There is too much political resistance for them to put a mask mandate back in place but just know that if you are trying to avoid getting covid you should absolutely be masking in a high quality mask indoors at this time.
Likewise, if you were comfortable not wearing a mask last week, there is no reason to wear one next week.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 12:49
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Someone at work mentioned it is; I don't know how they're privy to this information. They said when the map is updated tonight, Montgomery County, MD will be in the "high" category.
I find this remarkable, given how strongly MoCo is vaxxed and how mask crazy people have been for two years. How does this happen?
Sadly, this means I'll have to mask at work again.
MoCo may have been mask crazy two years ago, but they’re not anymore. The last time I was in Target, I didn’t see anyone else wearing a mask. The cashier did put on a mask as I walked up, but I don’t think that cleared the air she’d been breathing unmasked before I got there. Most of the county, like you apparently, has stopped wearing masks. That’s how it happens.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 12:47
Subject: Re:Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Hi OP. Yes, MoCo is going to high. Just wanted to pop in to clarify that transmission has been relatively similar for most of the summer, actually. What has increased is hospitalizations, which are a lagging indicator. What that means is that it has taken a few weeks for the BA5 variant to cause hospitalizations, but now it has actually passed them beyond the threshold the CDC set to push us into the high category. So it’s not any more or less safe from a transmission-only standpoint. I personally felt transmission was already high enough to warrant a mask indoors if I wanted to avoid infection. There is too much political resistance for them to put a mask mandate back in place but just know that if you are trying to avoid getting covid you should absolutely be masking in a high quality mask indoors at this time.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 12:40
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. And the new scale is based on hospitalizations, not just cases. The new variant is more transmissible, and so many people just aren't even trying anymore. We are up to 400+ deaths a day from COVID, and people act like it's over.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I question that number.
400+ a day is also as low as its been at any time since COVID started other than than summer of 2021. The tragic reality of COVID is that it's not going anywhere. and it kills a lot of people.
400 isn't really that many. Almost 3 million people die in the US each year. It's not like Covid robbed us of immortality.
Anonymous
07/28/2022 12:36
Subject: Is MoCo going to "high" on CDC Covid Data Tracker?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. And the new scale is based on hospitalizations, not just cases. The new variant is more transmissible, and so many people just aren't even trying anymore. We are up to 400+ deaths a day from COVID, and people act like it's over.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I question that number.
400+ a day is also as low as its been at any time since COVID started other than than summer of 2021. The tragic reality of COVID is that it's not going anywhere. and it kills a lot of people.