Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 13:31     Subject: Re:I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It will cool off the housing market which has a big effect on many housing related industries. Demand has way outstripped supply and the industry needs to catch up. All borrowing costs will go up which will temper demand.


Pipe dreams, because the stockification of the housing market is currently taking place + AirBnB renters will buy up all the properties if they fall:

https://arrivedhomes.com/

First time buyers will have to compete with companies worth billions of dollars who want to buy homes to turn them into rentals and sell the shares via outlets like arrived.


WFH was all that could save us, to allow people to live anywhere in our crazy large country and build new homes cheap. But that dream is dying.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 13:21     Subject: Re:I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:It will cool off the housing market which has a big effect on many housing related industries. Demand has way outstripped supply and the industry needs to catch up. All borrowing costs will go up which will temper demand.


Pipe dreams, because the stockification of the housing market is currently taking place + AirBnB renters will buy up all the properties if they fall:

https://arrivedhomes.com/

First time buyers will have to compete with companies worth billions of dollars who want to buy homes to turn them into rentals and sell the shares via outlets like arrived.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 13:08     Subject: Re:I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:It will cool off the housing market which has a big effect on many housing related industries. Demand has way outstripped supply and the industry needs to catch up. All borrowing costs will go up which will temper demand.


And I'm going to be looking for a bargain investment property.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 12:19     Subject: Re:I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

It will cool off the housing market which has a big effect on many housing related industries. Demand has way outstripped supply and the industry needs to catch up. All borrowing costs will go up which will temper demand.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 12:04     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interest hikes decrease demand by making debt more expensive.


I still have to eat and drive. That demand doesn't change.


But what/where you choose to eat/drive and how often you do so is impacted.

Interest rate hikes decrease demand by inceasing overall costs.
Interest rate cuts increase demand by decreasing overall costs.

It doesn't apply just to consumer spending. It also applies to business spending.

Interest rate hikes incentivize saving.
Interest rate cuts incentivize spending.

In the 20th Century the Fed used to raise rates when there was a lot of economic growth and lower them when there wasn't. Then the GFC happened and we've had almost two decades of free debt since then.

Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 11:27     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:Interest hikes decrease demand by making debt more expensive.


I still have to eat and drive. That demand doesn't change.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 10:24     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because there are demand-side problems that are responsible for a lot of this, interest rate hikes aren't going to solve inflation. But people are so freaked out by inflation that I suppose they are hoping it will help some. I'm old enough to remember when people bought homes and got student loans with much higher interest rates than we've been used to. But people have the memories of goldfish, and rich people hate the thought that they might not have as much wealth as they did before, so rate hikes it is.


Ok Bo0mer, those high interest rates were on balances exponentially lower than the prior low interest balances


Not even close to being a Boomer, but thanks for proving my point about people's lack of memory!


+1. I remember too and I’m a young Gen X, almost a millennial.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 10:19     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Interest hikes decrease demand by making debt more expensive.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 08:54     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because there are demand-side problems that are responsible for a lot of this, interest rate hikes aren't going to solve inflation. But people are so freaked out by inflation that I suppose they are hoping it will help some. I'm old enough to remember when people bought homes and got student loans with much higher interest rates than we've been used to. But people have the memories of goldfish, and rich people hate the thought that they might not have as much wealth as they did before, so rate hikes it is.


Ok Bo0mer, those high interest rates were on balances exponentially lower than the prior low interest balances


Not even close to being a Boomer, but thanks for proving my point about people's lack of memory!
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 08:53     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:Because there are demand-side problems that are responsible for a lot of this, interest rate hikes aren't going to solve inflation. But people are so freaked out by inflation that I suppose they are hoping it will help some. I'm old enough to remember when people bought homes and got student loans with much higher interest rates than we've been used to. But people have the memories of goldfish, and rich people hate the thought that they might not have as much wealth as they did before, so rate hikes it is.


Ok Bo0mer, those high interest rates were on balances exponentially lower than the prior low interest balances
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 08:32     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Because there are demand-side problems that are responsible for a lot of this, interest rate hikes aren't going to solve inflation. But people are so freaked out by inflation that I suppose they are hoping it will help some. I'm old enough to remember when people bought homes and got student loans with much higher interest rates than we've been used to. But people have the memories of goldfish, and rich people hate the thought that they might not have as much wealth as they did before, so rate hikes it is.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 08:30     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

It's great, it's going to bring down housing costs finally.
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2022 08:26     Subject: Re:I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:To me it seems like this is all going to further widen the gap between the rich and poor. I have a 2% mortgage, several hundred thousand liquid, already 2 paid of cars, kids in public k, i feel like as long as i have a job i will be a massive winner from this and people just starting out trying to get a mortgage, trying to get a car loan, putting a kid in daycare will suffer terribly. Please tell me i am being too pessimistic and Debbie downer and things are not that bad for those that are less financially secure.


Yep, I am worried for my young adult children. One of them just married and it will be nearly impossible for them to buy a house even though they both have well paying jobs. When I bought my first house, we put $5000 down. They’d have to put 10x that or more for a “starter” home.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2022 23:21     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Anonymous wrote:They don't know what they are doing. Biden is an idiot as well.

This. His job is to read the cards without messing up.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2022 23:19     Subject: I genuinely don't understand these rate hikes

Now if only the chips would show up so the new car market would come back to earth!