Anonymous
07/25/2022 07:41
Subject: College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.
https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/
“The University is also overrun with courses that exist for no other purpose but to make a big deal about race and gender and other issues that can only create more oppressed parties trying to tear down anything and everything and everyone that helped create our University.”
Translation: Make UVA white male again.
Valiantly fighting ‘cancel culture’ by cancelling courses you don’t like. And then convincing the stupid and gullible that what you’re actually doing is standing up for free speech and critical thinking.
These people love dim witted rubes like you.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 05:43
Subject: College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.
https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/
“The University is also overrun with courses that exist for no other purpose but to make a big deal about race and gender and other issues that can only create more oppressed parties trying to tear down anything and everything and everyone that helped create our University.”
Translation: Make UVA white male again.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 05:38
Subject: College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Wow. These MAGAs are planning to trash UVA.
https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/
https://thejeffersoncouncil.com/year-end-uva-update-from-bert-ellis/
Anonymous
07/25/2022 05:36
Subject: Re:College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The UVA person is the guy who drove down to the school to harass a kid at her door because he didn’t like that a sign she hung up with some grievances about the school. He had a box cutter and security told him he couldn’t cut down her sign because that would violate her free speech.
His letter about his issue with the sign was posted to the UVA parent Facebook and people were horrified. He and his friends seem to spend a lot of time writing about their own grievances.
The only “free speech” these people believe in is their own.
Yup, Bert Ellis. Attempted to intimidate a student and cut down her poster. Now appointed to UVA’s board.
You left out this part:
“Ellis has said the Jefferson Council supports the student’s right to say or post anything, but not on the Lawn that Thomas Jefferson designed, a part of U-Va. designated as a World Heritage Site.”
Why shouldn’t she be able to? It’s not like she was defacing it, it was a sign, not graffiti.
The school had the right to remove the sign. It was in her housing contract and she broke the rules.
The schools have taken their wealthy donors for granted, and now the donors are pushing back. Good for them!
Old, white racists flexing isn’t a good look.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 05:33
Subject: Re:College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The UVA person is the guy who drove down to the school to harass a kid at her door because he didn’t like that a sign she hung up with some grievances about the school. He had a box cutter and security told him he couldn’t cut down her sign because that would violate her free speech.
His letter about his issue with the sign was posted to the UVA parent Facebook and people were horrified. He and his friends seem to spend a lot of time writing about their own grievances.
The only “free speech” these people believe in is their own.
Yup, Bert Ellis. Attempted to intimidate a student and cut down her poster. Now appointed to UVA’s board.
How did that happen?
UVA appoints racist MAGA trash to its board?
Anonymous
07/25/2022 01:22
Subject: College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
I’m reminded of the YLS idiots who rudely and obnoxiously tried to prevent someone they disagreed with from speaking. Remember that, everyone? And the topic of the speech was… FREE SPEECH!
Pretty rich hearing a bunch of liberals lecturing others about what is and isn’t free speech. Glad to see this group forming.
Pretty rich hearing a bunch of liberals lecturing others about what is and isn’t free speech. Glad to see this group forming.
Anonymous
07/25/2022 01:19
Subject: Re:College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The UVA person is the guy who drove down to the school to harass a kid at her door because he didn’t like that a sign she hung up with some grievances about the school. He had a box cutter and security told him he couldn’t cut down her sign because that would violate her free speech.
His letter about his issue with the sign was posted to the UVA parent Facebook and people were horrified. He and his friends seem to spend a lot of time writing about their own grievances.
The only “free speech” these people believe in is their own.
Hmm. Sounds accurate regardless of what “side” you’re talking about.
Removing someone else's statement by force has nothing to do with free speech.
So you’re telling me if a student hangs a sign that YOU personally find offensive and inappropriate, you wouldn’t ask them to remove it? Sorry - if you’re a liberal, that’s pretty much in your job description.
Anonymous
07/24/2022 23:13
Subject: Re:College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The UVA person is the guy who drove down to the school to harass a kid at her door because he didn’t like that a sign she hung up with some grievances about the school. He had a box cutter and security told him he couldn’t cut down her sign because that would violate her free speech.
His letter about his issue with the sign was posted to the UVA parent Facebook and people were horrified. He and his friends seem to spend a lot of time writing about their own grievances.
The only “free speech” these people believe in is their own.
Yup, Bert Ellis. Attempted to intimidate a student and cut down her poster. Now appointed to UVA’s board.
You left out this part:
“Ellis has said the Jefferson Council supports the student’s right to say or post anything, but not on the Lawn that Thomas Jefferson designed, a part of U-Va. designated as a World Heritage Site.”
Why shouldn’t she be able to? It’s not like she was defacing it, it was a sign, not graffiti.
The school had the right to remove the sign. It was in her housing contract and she broke the rules.
The schools have taken their wealthy donors for granted, and now the donors are pushing back. Good for them!
But the school didn’t, did they? So why does this a-hole need to storm up there with a box cutter?
Anonymous
07/24/2022 22:50
Subject: Re:College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The UVA person is the guy who drove down to the school to harass a kid at her door because he didn’t like that a sign she hung up with some grievances about the school. He had a box cutter and security told him he couldn’t cut down her sign because that would violate her free speech.
His letter about his issue with the sign was posted to the UVA parent Facebook and people were horrified. He and his friends seem to spend a lot of time writing about their own grievances.
The only “free speech” these people believe in is their own.
Yup, Bert Ellis. Attempted to intimidate a student and cut down her poster. Now appointed to UVA’s board.
You left out this part:
“Ellis has said the Jefferson Council supports the student’s right to say or post anything, but not on the Lawn that Thomas Jefferson designed, a part of U-Va. designated as a World Heritage Site.”
Why shouldn’t she be able to? It’s not like she was defacing it, it was a sign, not graffiti.
The school had the right to remove the sign. It was in her housing contract and she broke the rules.
The schools have taken their wealthy donors for granted, and now the donors are pushing back. Good for them!
Anonymous
07/24/2022 21:36
Subject: Re:College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The UVA person is the guy who drove down to the school to harass a kid at her door because he didn’t like that a sign she hung up with some grievances about the school. He had a box cutter and security told him he couldn’t cut down her sign because that would violate her free speech.
His letter about his issue with the sign was posted to the UVA parent Facebook and people were horrified. He and his friends seem to spend a lot of time writing about their own grievances.
The only “free speech” these people believe in is their own.
Hmm. Sounds accurate regardless of what “side” you’re talking about.
Removing someone else's statement by force has nothing to do with free speech.
Anonymous
07/24/2022 19:05
Subject: College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Summary: Old, white guys with money forms groups to get colleges to go back to giving their “born on third” kids a place to mess around for four years before their use their connections to get executive jobs.
If you believe the name they give their group, you’re not paying attention. You think their work might help your middle class white kid, but they are as much against your kid getting a leg up as they are against minority groups. They want power and opportunity for their wealthy, white kids and no others.
Oh, BS. Many of those most involved in these organizations are immigrants and college graduates who grew up decidedly middle class.
It's about the divide between those who believe that free speech should be paramount, even if that allows people with a bigger soapbox to argue against equity, and those who believe that equity should be paramount, even if that entails the censorship or de-platforming of opposing views.
The W&L example says the people want to preserve General Lee’s legacy.
They’re hoping people assume they’re coming from a good place with the whole free speech thing, but they basically seem upset that people like Lee and Jefferson are seen with more real glasses today than with the rose-colored ones we had when we were kids.
Don’t be fooled. They aren’t about free speech. That’s their cover.
Disagree. They are mostly about free speech, even if some espouse views with which many disagree. The alternative is to insist that everyone agree with what might currently be portrayed as “real history,” but which often brooks no dissent.
Anonymous
07/24/2022 18:47
Subject: College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Summary: Old, white guys with money forms groups to get colleges to go back to giving their “born on third” kids a place to mess around for four years before their use their connections to get executive jobs.
If you believe the name they give their group, you’re not paying attention. You think their work might help your middle class white kid, but they are as much against your kid getting a leg up as they are against minority groups. They want power and opportunity for their wealthy, white kids and no others.
Oh, BS. Many of those most involved in these organizations are immigrants and college graduates who grew up decidedly middle class.
It's about the divide between those who believe that free speech should be paramount, even if that allows people with a bigger soapbox to argue against equity, and those who believe that equity should be paramount, even if that entails the censorship or de-platforming of opposing views.
The W&L example says the people want to preserve General Lee’s legacy.
They’re hoping people assume they’re coming from a good place with the whole free speech thing, but they basically seem upset that people like Lee and Jefferson are seen with more real glasses today than with the rose-colored ones we had when we were kids.
Don’t be fooled. They aren’t about free speech. That’s their cover.
Fair point about W&L but U of C professor Dorian Abbot being disinvited from giving a scientific lecture at MIT because he publicly opposes DEI initiatives is appalling.
Anonymous
07/24/2022 18:40
Subject: Re:College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The UVA person is the guy who drove down to the school to harass a kid at her door because he didn’t like that a sign she hung up with some grievances about the school. He had a box cutter and security told him he couldn’t cut down her sign because that would violate her free speech.
His letter about his issue with the sign was posted to the UVA parent Facebook and people were horrified. He and his friends seem to spend a lot of time writing about their own grievances.
The only “free speech” these people believe in is their own.
Yup, Bert Ellis. Attempted to intimidate a student and cut down her poster. Now appointed to UVA’s board.
You left out this part:
“Ellis has said the Jefferson Council supports the student’s right to say or post anything, but not on the Lawn that Thomas Jefferson designed, a part of U-Va. designated as a World Heritage Site.”
Yes free speech is not allowed on the lawn. Jefferson was against this woke free speech stuff. Speech must be approved by an appointed supervisory officer responsible for the political education or ideology and all speech(signs, t-shirts, hair length, etc) controlled with the intention of ensuring political control of the people. Good thing Youngkin is all over this.
We must preserve the lawn. Ever blade of grass is sacred.
Anonymous
07/24/2022 18:32
Subject: College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Summary: Old, white guys with money forms groups to get colleges to go back to giving their “born on third” kids a place to mess around for four years before their use their connections to get executive jobs.
If you believe the name they give their group, you’re not paying attention. You think their work might help your middle class white kid, but they are as much against your kid getting a leg up as they are against minority groups. They want power and opportunity for their wealthy, white kids and no others.
Oh, BS. Many of those most involved in these organizations are immigrants and college graduates who grew up decidedly middle class.
It's about the divide between those who believe that free speech should be paramount, even if that allows people with a bigger soapbox to argue against equity, and those who believe that equity should be paramount, even if that entails the censorship or de-platforming of opposing views.
The W&L example says the people want to preserve General Lee’s legacy.
They’re hoping people assume they’re coming from a good place with the whole free speech thing, but they basically seem upset that people like Lee and Jefferson are seen with more real glasses today than with the rose-colored ones we had when we were kids.
Don’t be fooled. They aren’t about free speech. That’s their cover.
Anonymous
07/24/2022 18:19
Subject: Re:College alumni groups spread nationally to counter ‘cancel culture’ (WaPo)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The UVA person is the guy who drove down to the school to harass a kid at her door because he didn’t like that a sign she hung up with some grievances about the school. He had a box cutter and security told him he couldn’t cut down her sign because that would violate her free speech.
His letter about his issue with the sign was posted to the UVA parent Facebook and people were horrified. He and his friends seem to spend a lot of time writing about their own grievances.
The only “free speech” these people believe in is their own.
Yup, Bert Ellis. Attempted to intimidate a student and cut down her poster. Now appointed to UVA’s board.
Welcome to Youngkin's VA! Yeeeehawww!