Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 11:08     Subject: Overvalued
There is a mythical belief that work ethics can only be learned by paid odd jobs.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:41     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people overvalue making kids having jobs and supporting themselves and paying for college. Most successful people i see are ones who were supported by families and who had no loans and no menial jobs but internships, research projects, sports and volunteer work.


Well then you need a different crowd.

Mine is all self-made.

Left home at 17 and never went back and got no help.

Steve Jobs did not come from "money" LOL

You need more education please go back to school.


Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg etc, all had college paid by their parents. Some of them decided to drop out.


They are unicorns. Dropping out of college does not automatically lead to founding Apple.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:39     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm talking about families with means insisting on kids paying off college themselves with side jobs.

I seriously don't know anyone like this.
I know people who are paying for college for their kids, but want their kids to have some skin in the game by contributing financially.
I know people who can't afford to pay all of college for their kids, so need their kids to earn income to make college happen.
I don't know of anyone who has means who insist kids pay off college themselves with side jobs. I can't imagine this is a super common. It's really hard in today's world to pay for college with side jobs.


Most parent want college paid off by aid, merit and side jobs.


Not true of people with means. We did not expect our kids to pay for college. We did expect them to work in the summer.

I know people say no one pays full price for college but at DCs college, and many of the top schools, 30-40% of the kids are full pay.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:22     Subject: Overvalued
"I naively chose a college that was almost as expensive as Stanford, and all of my working-class parents’ savings were being spent on my college tuition. After six months I couldn’t see the value in it. I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life and no idea how college was going to help me figure it out."

Steve Jobs
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:20     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people overvalue making kids having jobs and supporting themselves and paying for college. Most successful people i see are ones who were supported by families and who had no loans and no menial jobs but internships, research projects, sports and volunteer work.


If you don't have a family to pay for all of that, then what are your choices? You can either get aid or find a way to pay for it yourself.

I'm not sure what your point is.


I'm talking about families with means insisting on kids paying off college themselves with side jobs.


I agree. This is outdated and put kids at a disadvantage. Nothing wrong with having a job, but creating unnecessary stress makes no sense. Best to do wealth transfer if you can.
-low income mother
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:19     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people overvalue making kids having jobs and supporting themselves and paying for college. Most successful people i see are ones who were supported by families and who had no loans and no menial jobs but internships, research projects, sports and volunteer work.


Well then you need a different crowd.

Mine is all self-made.

Left home at 17 and never went back and got no help.

Steve Jobs did not come from "money" LOL

You need more education please go back to school.


"Jobs attended Reed College in 1972 before withdrawing that same year. In 1974, he traveled through India seeking enlightenment and studying Zen Buddhism. He and Wozniak co-founded Apple in 1976 to sell Wozniak's Apple I personal computer."
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:17     Subject: Overvalued
Such a stupid post. Most families "with means" DO pay for their kids' college education. If you're talking about families who won't OVERPAY, like by taking out loans to pay for private college, more power to them.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:17     Subject: Overvalued
or student loans
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:17     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm talking about families with means insisting on kids paying off college themselves with side jobs.

I seriously don't know anyone like this.
I know people who are paying for college for their kids, but want their kids to have some skin in the game by contributing financially.
I know people who can't afford to pay all of college for their kids, so need their kids to earn income to make college happen.
I don't know of anyone who has means who insist kids pay off college themselves with side jobs. I can't imagine this is a super common. It's really hard in today's world to pay for college with side jobs.


Most parent want college paid off by aid, merit and side jobs.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:14     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people overvalue making kids having jobs and supporting themselves and paying for college. Most successful people i see are ones who were supported by families and who had no loans and no menial jobs but internships, research projects, sports and volunteer work.


Well then you need a different crowd.

Mine is all self-made.

Left home at 17 and never went back and got no help.

Steve Jobs did not come from "money" LOL

You need more education please go back to school.


Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg etc, all had college paid by their parents. Some of them decided to drop out.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:13     Subject: Re:Overvalued
OP are you the kid who posted about taking $80k of loans? If so that’s a different scenario than what you’ve posted here.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:07     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm talking about families with means insisting on kids paying off college themselves with side jobs.

I seriously don't know anyone like this.
I know people who are paying for college for their kids, but want their kids to have some skin in the game by contributing financially.
I know people who can't afford to pay all of college for their kids, so need their kids to earn income to make college happen.
I don't know of anyone who has means who insist kids pay off college themselves with side jobs. I can't imagine this is a super common. It's really hard in today's world to pay for college with side jobs.


Agree. Maybe there are a few people with means who would do that but it’s not the norm. Maybe OP is referring to donut hole families who do well but not well enough to save/pay for a private college and don’t qualify for aid.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:03     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people overvalue making kids having jobs and supporting themselves and paying for college. Most successful people i see are ones who were supported by families and who had no loans and no menial jobs but internships, research projects, sports and volunteer work.


Well then you need a different crowd.

Mine is all self-made.

Left home at 17 and never went back and got no help.

Steve Jobs did not come from "money" LOL

You need more education please go back to school.


Are you talking about you or your kid?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:02     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:
I'm talking about families with means insisting on kids paying off college themselves with side jobs.

I seriously don't know anyone like this.
I know people who are paying for college for their kids, but want their kids to have some skin in the game by contributing financially.
I know people who can't afford to pay all of college for their kids, so need their kids to earn income to make college happen.
I don't know of anyone who has means who insist kids pay off college themselves with side jobs. I can't imagine this is a super common. It's really hard in today's world to pay for college with side jobs.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2022 10:01     Subject: Overvalued
Anonymous wrote:I think people overvalue making kids having jobs and supporting themselves and paying for college. Most successful people i see are ones who were supported by families and who had no loans and no menial jobs but internships, research projects, sports and volunteer work.


Well then you need a different crowd.

Mine is all self-made.

Left home at 17 and never went back and got no help.

Steve Jobs did not come from "money" LOL

You need more education please go back to school.