Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 18:35     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that Dems should be grateful to have a Dem in one of the two WVA seats. It is an extremely conservative state and the fact that Manchin is there instead of a R is somewhat of a miracle. Dems should focus on building a pipeline of stronger candidates in races that they can realistically win instead of complaining about Manchin.

Why be grateful? The reactionary does absolutely no good for the party. So I will keep on pointing the finger at him for being a traitor who cares not one bit about the country. That the President and rest of the party grovel at his feet is beyond obscene.


+💯 Not a DMVer— Manchin and his fake halo suck. Dems need to get their sh!t together and fight smarter and nastier. It’s why repubs hate AOC. She has a lot to learn, but she can make an old crusty white man cry, if they let her.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 18:00     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:Looking like the Democrats may gain several Senate seats in the mid-terms. That will make Manchin irrelevant and no longer able to hold Senate Dems hostage.


LOL in your dreams.

Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 17:58     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Looking like the Democrats may gain several Senate seats in the mid-terms. That will make Manchin irrelevant and no longer able to hold Senate Dems hostage.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 17:14     Subject: Re:Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Manchin does have a core ideology: it's coal and himself.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 16:09     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that Dems should be grateful to have a Dem in one of the two WVA seats. It is an extremely conservative state and the fact that Manchin is there instead of a R is somewhat of a miracle. Dems should focus on building a pipeline of stronger candidates in races that they can realistically win instead of complaining about Manchin.


The reality is that the Dems should be grateful that one sensible Dem is putting the brakes on some of their ludicrous bills and spending.
Manchin is not the bad guy here. Our country would be in far worse shape if the Dems got what they want.


He's sensible about who butters his bread. The energy industry gives more money to Manchin than it gives to ANY other politician.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 16:07     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that Dems should be grateful to have a Dem in one of the two WVA seats. It is an extremely conservative state and the fact that Manchin is there instead of a R is somewhat of a miracle. Dems should focus on building a pipeline of stronger candidates in races that they can realistically win instead of complaining about Manchin.


The reality is that the Dems should be grateful that one sensible Dem is putting the brakes on some of their ludicrous bills and spending.
Manchin is not the bad guy here. Our country would be in far worse shape if the Dems got what they want.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 15:53     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that Dems should be grateful to have a Dem in one of the two WVA seats. It is an extremely conservative state and the fact that Manchin is there instead of a R is somewhat of a miracle. Dems should focus on building a pipeline of stronger candidates in races that they can realistically win instead of complaining about Manchin.


What good is the seat? It might as well be a Republican - at lest we’d know where they were going to vote. Manchin is literally useless and actually hurts more than he helps.


He's useful with regard to confirmations.

Which is essentially all the Senate does anymore.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 15:52     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that the Democratic Party no longer has a discernible core ideology. It has like 50. Which is why they will continue to lose and lose and lose.


odd, dems won the presidency


And the House. And the Senate (kind of).
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 15:50     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that the Democratic Party no longer has a discernible core ideology. It has like 50. Which is why they will continue to lose and lose and lose.


odd, dems won the presidency
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 15:40     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
The problem is that Manchin has as much power as he does. He represents under 2 million people.

West Virginians get about 22 times the level of Senate representation as Californians do.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 15:19     Subject: Re:Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Now, Manchin seems to be one of those old fashioned politicians. You know the kind where money talks. Maybe we should start a gofundme to outbid which person supplies him.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 15:09     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that Dems should be grateful to have a Dem in one of the two WVA seats. It is an extremely conservative state and the fact that Manchin is there instead of a R is somewhat of a miracle. Dems should focus on building a pipeline of stronger candidates in races that they can realistically win instead of complaining about Manchin.


What good is the seat? It might as well be a Republican - at lest we’d know where they were going to vote. Manchin is literally useless and actually hurts more than he helps.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 15:06     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that the Democratic Party no longer has a discernible core ideology. It has like 50. Which is why they will continue to lose and lose and lose.


Remember how the GOP had no party platform at its convention? And, people still voted for them. The Dems have a diverse group of people with lots of ideas about the same thing, but differ how to go about it. The article expresses this via Sanders.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 15:04     Subject: Re:Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:At least Manchin is a Democrat in a Trump +30 state. The real problems are Senators like Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.

A democrat from and pointless and worthless state who has effectively usurped the leadership mantle of the party, prevents the codifying in law of abortion, and is dancing on humanity’s grave as we hurtle full speed ahead into the climate apocalypse. But yes he’s a democrat so we should all be happy. With right-wingers like him in the party who needs republicans.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2022 14:42     Subject: Manchin is a "thorn" in the Dem's side b/c he has no "discernible core ideology"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reality is that Dems should be grateful to have a Dem in one of the two WVA seats. It is an extremely conservative state and the fact that Manchin is there instead of a R is somewhat of a miracle. Dems should focus on building a pipeline of stronger candidates in races that they can realistically win instead of complaining about Manchin.


Name something he’s done that we couldn’t have done without him.


Flipped two court circuits?

Put in place more liberal judges in a shorter amount time than any other period?

Nominated and supported Kentanji Jackson?

Passed the Infrastructure Act?