Anonymous
07/10/2022 09:03
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Congress
This. Same reason there's no commuter tax.
Because it would be DC trying to tax the Federal government for having Federal employees work there, which makes zero sense considering the Federal payment and massive subsidization of WMATA.
Sure, tax the Federal government for Federal employees that work in DC. But why should DC still keep these other Federal benefits?
There isn't and hasn't been a "federal payment" for decades.
Anonymous
07/10/2022 07:25
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which of the Maryland or Virginia senators will not block this in Congress? <crickets>
And even if DC were ever to do it, they wouldn't do 295 because of wards 7 & 8. They'd do the 14th Street Bridge & the TR bridge.
Not in a million years. The feds wouldn't allow it. The DC business community is probably smart enough to oppose it, too. DC is extremely reliant upon VA businesses and VA residents. Throwing up a barrier like that would only hurt DC.
Virginia uses tolls all the time and somehow it magically works.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 21:57
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC gets millions of dollars each year in formula funding from the federal government for the upkeep of its roads and bridges. In other words, taxpayers across the country help pay for DC roads
This is false
No, it’s true for all states. In the past some states contributed more to the Highway Trust Fund than they received, but now the fund receives large transfers from the general fund.
That money comes with conditions, one of which is a prohibition on tolls except as authorized under a few Federal Highway Administration program.
DC would have to decline federal funds if it wanted to charge most of tolls proposed in this thread.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 21:03
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC gets millions of dollars each year in formula funding from the federal government for the upkeep of its roads and bridges. In other words, taxpayers across the country help pay for DC roads
This is false
No, it is not false.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 20:10
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just so there are tolls on the bridges and roads to MD and VA, too.
Better to encourage residents of DC to stay IN DC.
We have the museums, the music, the art, the dining, the parks, the events all right here in DC. Beats dealing with the Beltway or the shithole stripmall land of surrounding VA and MD.
When you say “we have the museums” I hope you mean the American people? DC government certainly didn’t pay a dime for any of it.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 20:08
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC gets millions of dollars each year in formula funding from the federal government for the upkeep of its roads and bridges. In other words, taxpayers across the country help pay for DC roads
This is false
DP but where’s your evidence?
Anonymous
07/09/2022 20:07
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Congress
This. Same reason there's no commuter tax.
Because it would be DC trying to tax the Federal government for having Federal employees work there, which makes zero sense considering the Federal payment and massive subsidization of WMATA.
Sure, tax the Federal government for Federal employees that work in DC. But why should DC still keep these other Federal benefits?
Anonymous
07/09/2022 18:39
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Actually, Rock Creek Parkway shoukd have automatic rolling equipment. It might reduce traffic to manageable levels and provide a dedicated funding stream to the Park Service. Think about what the reversible lane changes cost in Park Police time and manpower each weekday. That’s a complete subsidy to commuters to manage a through-way, meaning fewer dollars go to Park maintenance and restoration. Instead, shouldn’t commuters directly offset more of those costs?
If Park Service wants to save money, it can start by disbanding Park Police, the most unaccountable police force in the federal bureaucracy.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 18:38
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:DC gets millions of dollars each year in formula funding from the federal government for the upkeep of its roads and bridges. In other words, taxpayers across the country help pay for DC roads
This is false
Anonymous
07/09/2022 18:27
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which of the Maryland or Virginia senators will not block this in Congress? <crickets>
And even if DC were ever to do it, they wouldn't do 295 because of wards 7 & 8. They'd do the 14th Street Bridge & the TR bridge.
Not in a million years. The feds wouldn't allow it. The DC business community is probably smart enough to oppose it, too. DC is extremely reliant upon VA businesses and VA residents. Throwing up a barrier like that would only hurt DC.
They could toll the bridges to raise funds for replacement, with approval from the US DOT. However, it would probably be easier to ask Congress for the money. Every member uses the 14th street bridge to get to DCA. They’d be willing to provide funds from other taxpayers and avoid tolls.
Once again, there can be no tolling without statehood. There can be no congestion tax without statehood.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 18:18
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Just so there are tolls on the bridges and roads to MD and VA, too.
Better to encourage residents of DC to stay IN DC.
We have the museums, the music, the art, the dining, the parks, the events all right here in DC. Beats dealing with the Beltway or the shithole stripmall land of surrounding VA and MD.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 16:57
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Because Congress
This. Same reason there's no commuter tax.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 11:28
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Why not toll the Suitland Parkway?
Anonymous
07/09/2022 11:13
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which of the Maryland or Virginia senators will not block this in Congress? <crickets>
And even if DC were ever to do it, they wouldn't do 295 because of wards 7 & 8. They'd do the 14th Street Bridge & the TR bridge.
Not in a million years. The feds wouldn't allow it. The DC business community is probably smart enough to oppose it, too. DC is extremely reliant upon VA businesses and VA residents. Throwing up a barrier like that would only hurt DC.
They could toll the bridges to raise funds for replacement, with approval from the US DOT. However, it would probably be easier to ask Congress for the money. Every member uses the 14th street bridge to get to DCA. They’d be willing to provide funds from other taxpayers and avoid tolls.
Anonymous
07/09/2022 11:08
Subject: Why no Toll Roads in DC???
Tolling equipment