Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:34     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:Doggie daycare

On a nanny’s salary?
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:33     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She just brought the dog into your house without asking you? She either needs to find a new permanent home for the dog or board it. I don’t know of many nanny employers who would be okay with having a barking, scratching dog in their home.


She asked us and said it was a very temporary solution
But it’s been a month and she really has no options
She doesn’t want to leave but the dog can’t stay


What about giving her one more month - or three more weeks - to find a solution. Work with a trainer to get the dog to bark less and pee not on the floor, or find the dog a new home. Just realistically, it is going to be hard to find this dog a home. I'm sure your nanny knows that. This has got to be awful for her, as it is for you, too. But maybe she has a friend who will keep the dog - she could even pay a friend to keep the dog. Just, try to work with her so the dog isn't in a shelter. Old pets don't belong in shelters. It's summer, shelters are full. If she is going to euthanize the dog because there is nowhere for him to live, then it would be kinder to have a vet do it and not outsource that to a shelter.


I appreciate your kindness
She’s young and hasn’t done anything to help the situation over the last month
I had to buy the bark collar
This morning as the dog was barking and she was trying to quiet it she walked away from the stove.
The smoke detector went off, we have young kids who need her attention
I was at work but my DH was pissed as he had to jump off a work call to turn off the stove
Then the kids got upset

She’s a student and we all appreciate her so much but she doesn’t seem to be able to think through this
DH wants us to give her until Friday to find a solution
Someone mentioned doggy day care which I didn’t actually know exists!
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:29     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Doggie daycare
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:26     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She just brought the dog into your house without asking you? She either needs to find a new permanent home for the dog or board it. I don’t know of many nanny employers who would be okay with having a barking, scratching dog in their home.


She asked us and said it was a very temporary solution
But it’s been a month and she really has no options
She doesn’t want to leave but the dog can’t stay


What about giving her one more month - or three more weeks - to find a solution. Work with a trainer to get the dog to bark less and pee not on the floor, or find the dog a new home. Just realistically, it is going to be hard to find this dog a home. I'm sure your nanny knows that. This has got to be awful for her, as it is for you, too. But maybe she has a friend who will keep the dog - she could even pay a friend to keep the dog. Just, try to work with her so the dog isn't in a shelter. Old pets don't belong in shelters. It's summer, shelters are full. If she is going to euthanize the dog because there is nowhere for him to live, then it would be kinder to have a vet do it and not outsource that to a shelter.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:21     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:She just brought the dog into your house without asking you? She either needs to find a new permanent home for the dog or board it. I don’t know of many nanny employers who would be okay with having a barking, scratching dog in their home.


She asked us and said it was a very temporary solution
But it’s been a month and she really has no options
She doesn’t want to leave but the dog can’t stay
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:16     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She needs to re-home the dog. Part of her employment is housing, but she knew the dog was not welcome when she accepted the job or got the dog. This is why it wasn’t living with her before. It sounds like you tried to make it work, but it’s disruptive to your husband’s job - the job that pays her salary.

It sounds like it is distracting her from her duties during the work day.


Yes it is distracting her, plus she’s upset because of the break up
We all appreciate her but we can’t afford to pay her anymore
She studies a few evenings a week and between paying for her education and sending money to her family she can’t afford to live in our city, which is where she goes to school


Then the cost of a dog, especially an elderly one, is more than she can afford. It sucks for her, but it was a risk she took when she accepted a live-in position knowing she had a dog. I know I am being harsh, but she is an employee. This is not your problem to solve for her and she needs to do her job or you can find a new nanny.


OP yes I agree with you
We’ve treated her like a family member so it’s not easy to make these decisions but the dog is old and cranky
Also not trained
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:15     Subject: Re:Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Um, pay your nanny enough so that she can get her own apartment.


It's perfectly legit to include an en suite apartment as part of a compensation package. OP is not cheap to do so.



This was the nanny’s choice because she’s a student and it’s close to her college
Also she wouldn’t have the resources to furnish it
We also give her free use of our car
She has a great deal and is very happy, but maybe a bit complacent
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:12     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:Barking habits when a dog feels isolated is bad for their vocal chords and psychological state. When my teen dog started to bark when he was left alone, we got an electronic dog collar that gives a little zap when the dog barks - I tried it on myself first, and it didn't hurt, but make sure you calibrate it at a low setting. It took two barks for him to stop barking. He hasn't barked since when left alone, and is left alone only rarely since one of us is usually always home. He occasional barks when we're here, usually when someone is at the door, or he senses a fox at night, and of course that's all right, we don't mind - it's "normal" barking.

You have more than a barking problem, however. It's cruel to leave a dog all day in one room without interacting with anyone. The dog will not be well-behaved when let out, because he will have pent-up mental and physical energy.

If you can tolerate it and the dog doesn't get into things, it's best that the dog be allowed to roam part of the house where there are people. Right now, you're probably not seeing their good side, because isolation is making them act out.

If you can't take it anymore, then you should discuss rehoming.


Thanks so much for this thoughtful response
We just ordered a bark collar so we’re going to start with that
Her ex worked all day and the dog was always alone, so that’s not a change
She takes a lunch break for an hour each day and takes it out
I think it’s barking so much because it’s old and cranky. I’ve actually never known a dog to bark so much
It’s not used to kids so even when it’s in our family room it’s still barking
Also it’s not trained and has stained several of the carpets so either the collar works and it stays in the room or it has to go
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:11     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She needs to re-home the dog. Part of her employment is housing, but she knew the dog was not welcome when she accepted the job or got the dog. This is why it wasn’t living with her before. It sounds like you tried to make it work, but it’s disruptive to your husband’s job - the job that pays her salary.

It sounds like it is distracting her from her duties during the work day.


Yes it is distracting her, plus she’s upset because of the break up
We all appreciate her but we can’t afford to pay her anymore
She studies a few evenings a week and between paying for her education and sending money to her family she can’t afford to live in our city, which is where she goes to school


Then the cost of a dog, especially an elderly one, is more than she can afford. It sucks for her, but it was a risk she took when she accepted a live-in position knowing she had a dog. I know I am being harsh, but she is an employee. This is not your problem to solve for her and she needs to do her job or you can find a new nanny.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:09     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:Pay for the dog to be boarded a few days a week (or heck, all week).


The nanny owns the dog and should pay for this
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:08     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't the dog be around your family?

You know what the options are: Either find a way to make this work - by letting the dog stay, by paying her enough for her to get her own place, by having the dog go to doggy daycare during the day, etc - or your nanny is going to have to choose between working for you and her dog. She will have to find herself a new job and apartment, or find the dog a new home, or bring the dog to the shelter.


It can’t be around the family because it’s old and doesn’t like kids, so it doesn’t ever stop barking


This just doesn't sound tenable for anyone then. I think you have to ask your nanny to rehome the dog, if she wants to keep living with you. What else is there?


OP - I don’t know. Her family is overseas plus she’s studying at a college close to our home.
We said no dog from the beginning but agreed last month so she could figure something out.
Now she’s not coming up with any solution
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:07     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:She needs to re-home the dog. Part of her employment is housing, but she knew the dog was not welcome when she accepted the job or got the dog. This is why it wasn’t living with her before. It sounds like you tried to make it work, but it’s disruptive to your husband’s job - the job that pays her salary.

It sounds like it is distracting her from her duties during the work day.


Yes it is distracting her, plus she’s upset because of the break up
We all appreciate her but we can’t afford to pay her anymore
She studies a few evenings a week and between paying for her education and sending money to her family she can’t afford to live in our city, which is where she goes to school
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:06     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't the dog be around your family?

You know what the options are: Either find a way to make this work - by letting the dog stay, by paying her enough for her to get her own place, by having the dog go to doggy daycare during the day, etc - or your nanny is going to have to choose between working for you and her dog. She will have to find herself a new job and apartment, or find the dog a new home, or bring the dog to the shelter.


It can’t be around the family because it’s old and doesn’t like kids, so it doesn’t ever stop barking


This just doesn't sound tenable for anyone then. I think you have to ask your nanny to rehome the dog, if she wants to keep living with you. What else is there?
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:05     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Either dog is re-homed or the nanny.
Anonymous
Post 06/20/2022 17:04     Subject: Nanny’s dog can’t stay

Anonymous wrote:Why can't the dog be around your family?

You know what the options are: Either find a way to make this work - by letting the dog stay, by paying her enough for her to get her own place, by having the dog go to doggy daycare during the day, etc - or your nanny is going to have to choose between working for you and her dog. She will have to find herself a new job and apartment, or find the dog a new home, or bring the dog to the shelter.


It can’t be around the family because it’s old and doesn’t like kids, so it doesn’t ever stop barking