Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 23:26     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the most horrendous beggar-thy-neighbor bullshit I ever did see.

When the idea of Foxhall Elementary was first floated by DCPS, Stoddert boosters squealed from their hilltop that, in giving families in Foxhall a walkable school, they would be denied their gleaming castle that they DCPS just had to give them because they are Glover Park and Glover Park always gets what it wants. Ever the precious children that they are, ANC3B whined a vicious, hearfelt whine: https://anc3b.org/wp-content/uploads/ANC3B-Resolution-on-Foxhall-School-5-13-21.pdf.

And, by golly, for all their whining, DCPS gave ANC3B and the Stoddert boosters just what they wanted. 20 million buckeroos to put a few new wings on their castle. Never mind that this meant stiffing those silly peasant families in Foxhall who would have to wait a few more years for their walkable elementary school. Who cares about them? If they mattered a damn, they would live in Glover Park. Amirite?

But silly DCPS for thinking that a cool 20 million buckeroos would placate the frothy Glover Parkers. Definitely not! Not content with delaying the opening of Foxhall Elementary for two years, they now foment and disseminate ridiculous notions that despite the huge funds and expansion DPCS has bestowed on their school and all evidence to the contrary, Foxhall Elementary and DCPS have a secret plan to TAKE THEIR KIDS AWAY!!!


Let's not forget the evil sorcerers of Foxhall Village who feared the gleeful cries of children at play would turn them into stone. They saw useful idiots in the Glover Parkers who could be enchanted with simple lies into supporting their dastardly plan.


An analogy that would be hilarious were it not such an apt description of what is actually going on.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 23:21     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:This is the most horrendous beggar-thy-neighbor bullshit I ever did see.

When the idea of Foxhall Elementary was first floated by DCPS, Stoddert boosters squealed from their hilltop that, in giving families in Foxhall a walkable school, they would be denied their gleaming castle that they DCPS just had to give them because they are Glover Park and Glover Park always gets what it wants. Ever the precious children that they are, ANC3B whined a vicious, hearfelt whine: https://anc3b.org/wp-content/uploads/ANC3B-Resolution-on-Foxhall-School-5-13-21.pdf.

And, by golly, for all their whining, DCPS gave ANC3B and the Stoddert boosters just what they wanted. 20 million buckeroos to put a few new wings on their castle. Never mind that this meant stiffing those silly peasant families in Foxhall who would have to wait a few more years for their walkable elementary school. Who cares about them? If they mattered a damn, they would live in Glover Park. Amirite?

But silly DCPS for thinking that a cool 20 million buckeroos would placate the frothy Glover Parkers. Definitely not! Not content with delaying the opening of Foxhall Elementary for two years, they now foment and disseminate ridiculous notions that despite the huge funds and expansion DPCS has bestowed on their school and all evidence to the contrary, Foxhall Elementary and DCPS have a secret plan to TAKE THEIR KIDS AWAY!!!


Let's not forget the evil sorcerers of Foxhall Village who feared the gleeful cries of children at play would turn them into stone. They saw useful idiots in the Glover Parkers who could be enchanted with simple lies into supporting their dastardly plan.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 23:11     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
This is the most horrendous beggar-thy-neighbor bullshit I ever did see.

When the idea of Foxhall Elementary was first floated by DCPS, Stoddert boosters squealed from their hilltop that, in giving families in Foxhall a walkable school, they would be denied their gleaming castle that they DCPS just had to give them because they are Glover Park and Glover Park always gets what it wants. Ever the precious children that they are, ANC3B whined a vicious, hearfelt whine: https://anc3b.org/wp-content/uploads/ANC3B-Resolution-on-Foxhall-School-5-13-21.pdf.

And, by golly, for all their whining, DCPS gave ANC3B and the Stoddert boosters just what they wanted. 20 million buckeroos to put a few new wings on their castle. Never mind that this meant stiffing those silly peasant families in Foxhall who would have to wait a few more years for their walkable elementary school. Who cares about them? If they mattered a damn, they would live in Glover Park. Amirite?

But silly DCPS for thinking that a cool 20 million buckeroos would placate the frothy Glover Parkers. Definitely not! Not content with delaying the opening of Foxhall Elementary for two years, they now foment and disseminate ridiculous notions that despite the huge funds and expansion DPCS has bestowed on their school and all evidence to the contrary, Foxhall Elementary and DCPS have a secret plan to TAKE THEIR KIDS AWAY!!!
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 22:55     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
DCPS: "no decision has been made on how to redraw elementary school boundaries to accommodate the new school."

What part of "no decision" do you not understand?

Believing that a decision has been made when the relevant authority is telling you very clearly that it hasn't is a conspiracy theory. A very boring conspiracy theory, but still a conspiracy theory.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 22:54     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The trouble with this - other than as described in the petition at the start that DCPS said they were going to take some of Stoddert


So how many times does DCPS have to walk back something they said in 2021 and have since repeatedly disavowed before you will believe them?


Because they haven't given any updates? What is the alternative? I think this is the real plan, but they weren't prepared for the blowback.

Give us another map otherwise.


You're just like every other conspiracy theorist. No matter how many times you are presented with evidence to the contrary, you ignore it. The only difference is that the conspiracy you are peddling is incredibly boring. At least those who were convinced that the price of cabinets on Wayfair were code for a child trafficking ring focused on a real issue. You can't even find something remotely interesting to be conspiratorial about.


This conspiracy isn't harmless. They're the useful idiots of the NIMBY's in Foxhall who want to scuttle the Foxhall School.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 22:49     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The trouble with this - other than as described in the petition at the start that DCPS said they were going to take some of Stoddert


So how many times does DCPS have to walk back something they said in 2021 and have since repeatedly disavowed before you will believe them?


Because they haven't given any updates? What is the alternative? I think this is the real plan, but they weren't prepared for the blowback.

Give us another map otherwise.


You're just like every other conspiracy theorist. No matter how many times you are presented with evidence to the contrary, you ignore it. The only difference is that the conspiracy you are peddling is incredibly boring. At least those who were convinced that the price of cabinets on Wayfair were code for a child trafficking ring focused on a real issue. You can't even find something remotely interesting to be conspiratorial about.


I’m not sure what “evidence” you’re referring to. Were you on the same call that I was?

In our meeting with DCPS on 4/19 about Stoddert's planned capital improvement project, DCPS (Chief of Facilities) was explicit that a portion of Stoddert's current boundaries would be reassigned to Foxhall.


There was a statement from DCPS that was posted to the Glober Park listserve stating in very clear English that no decisions had been made about what the boundaries of the new school would be. Is that so hard to understand and accept?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 22:47     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The trouble with this - other than as described in the petition at the start that DCPS said they were going to take some of Stoddert


So how many times does DCPS have to walk back something they said in 2021 and have since repeatedly disavowed before you will believe them?


Because they haven't given any updates? What is the alternative? I think this is the real plan, but they weren't prepared for the blowback.

Give us another map otherwise.


You're just like every other conspiracy theorist. No matter how many times you are presented with evidence to the contrary, you ignore it. The only difference is that the conspiracy you are peddling is incredibly boring. At least those who were convinced that the price of cabinets on Wayfair were code for a child trafficking ring focused on a real issue. You can't even find something remotely interesting to be conspiratorial about.


What conspiracy theory? The DCPS leader literally told ANC 3B that some Stoddert students would be reassigned.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 22:43     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The trouble with this - other than as described in the petition at the start that DCPS said they were going to take some of Stoddert


So how many times does DCPS have to walk back something they said in 2021 and have since repeatedly disavowed before you will believe them?


Because they haven't given any updates? What is the alternative? I think this is the real plan, but they weren't prepared for the blowback.

Give us another map otherwise.


You're just like every other conspiracy theorist. No matter how many times you are presented with evidence to the contrary, you ignore it. The only difference is that the conspiracy you are peddling is incredibly boring. At least those who were convinced that the price of cabinets on Wayfair were code for a child trafficking ring focused on a real issue. You can't even find something remotely interesting to be conspiratorial about.


I’m not sure what “evidence” you’re referring to. Were you on the same call that I was?

In our meeting with DCPS on 4/19 about Stoddert's planned capital improvement project, DCPS (Chief of Facilities) was explicit that a portion of Stoddert's current boundaries would be reassigned to Foxhall.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 22:37     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The trouble with this - other than as described in the petition at the start that DCPS said they were going to take some of Stoddert


So how many times does DCPS have to walk back something they said in 2021 and have since repeatedly disavowed before you will believe them?


Because they haven't given any updates? What is the alternative? I think this is the real plan, but they weren't prepared for the blowback.

Give us another map otherwise.


You're just like every other conspiracy theorist. No matter how many times you are presented with evidence to the contrary, you ignore it. The only difference is that the conspiracy you are peddling is incredibly boring. At least those who were convinced that the price of cabinets on Wayfair were code for a child trafficking ring focused on a real issue. You can't even find something remotely interesting to be conspiratorial about.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 22:30     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The trouble with this - other than as described in the petition at the start that DCPS said they were going to take some of Stoddert


So how many times does DCPS have to walk back something they said in 2021 and have since repeatedly disavowed before you will believe them?


Because they haven't given any updates? What is the alternative? I think this is the real plan, but they weren't prepared for the blowback.

Give us another map otherwise.


What's the alternative? The alternative was laid out in the posts at 15:59 and 20:11.

You want a map? Take the "example map" and change it so the Stoddert boundary is unchanged. There's your map.

Why do I have the feeling you're going to move the goalposts though?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 22:17     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The trouble with this - other than as described in the petition at the start that DCPS said they were going to take some of Stoddert


So how many times does DCPS have to walk back something they said in 2021 and have since repeatedly disavowed before you will believe them?


Because they haven't given any updates? What is the alternative? I think this is the real plan, but they weren't prepared for the blowback.

Give us another map otherwise.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 20:13     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
The trouble with this - other than as described in the petition at the start that DCPS said they were going to take some of Stoddert


So how many times does DCPS have to walk back something they said in 2021 and have since repeatedly disavowed before you will believe them?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 20:11     Subject: Re:Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Here's the actual chart from that document:



It doesn't at all support your analysis. In particular, there are a lot of kids who are in boundary for Key who will be a lot closer to Foxhall -- they'll go from a median of 1.9 miles today to a median of 0.4. That's the difference between walkable and unwalkable. I count 193 kids today from Mann and Key who would be affected by the boundary change. But both schools are predicted to grow substantially in the next decade, applying that same rate of growth you easily get to the 275 number that was the baseline in my post. In fact, you probably don't even need to move the boundary quite as aggressively as they suggested in that presentation.

So no, they don't need Stoddert kids to fill the new school. Please stop with the beggar-thy-neighbor attempts to scuttle a new school. Those kids deserve a walkable school as much as yours do.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 19:45     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
"rural corner"=Foxhaller Fact
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2022 19:33     Subject: Keep Glover Park & Stoddert Together
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The truth is as that petition says that DCPS's current plan to build a large school at Foxhall (and not expand seats at Stoddert) would require kids from Glover Park to travel 2 miles to fill it.


It's true that the petition says that. And it's true that the petition is wrong.

Go to this article: https://ggwash.org/view/71802/can-dcps-survive-the-coming-enrollment-surge Scroll down to the map and look at the enrollment projections by school. By 2027 Key is projected to be 148 over capacity and Mann is 127. Stoddert is a relatively minor player in the picture at 65 kids over capacity.

So just Key and Mann are 275 over capacity in five years. But that assumes everything stays the same. At both schools there is no PK3 and only enough PK4 seats for about half the families that want them. Both schools will be in the high 500's enrollment, which means about 80 kids per grade. Going to full PK3 and PK4 adds about 80 PK3 and 40 PK4 kids to each school, 120 kids per school, 240 kids. Add that to the 275 and you get 535. DCPS is saying the new school will be 550 seats. DCPS considers any school over 85% utilization to be full, this school will be at 97.3% utilization.

With zero kids from Stoddert.


The trouble with this - other than as described in the petition at the start that DCPS said they were going to take some of Stoddert - is that the Key and Mann kids you describe don't live near the Foxhall school. I don't have data on where those kids live, but you can see that the example boundary DCPS analyzed which grabbed the obvious chunks of Key and Mann, there were only ~175 kids within 2 miles of the Foxhall school who would be going to a nearer school than they currently do. See Meeting 2, Slides 18-20 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17d7ZYwYlkVre4sc4EiH3SWpU-FL5zvj_

I assume most of the Key/Mann kids live in the denser parts of the Palisades or the Wisconsin and Massachusetts corridors. They don't live in the rural corner of the city. So yes, if you force all the Key and Mann families from their closer schools to commute to the bottom of the city, it would be possible to fill the school. You can see why DCPS thinks Stoddert is closer than someone who lives on Chain Bridge. In the real world, if you want all these kids to go to Foxhall the school would need to be located somewhere else somewhere more centrally located.