Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 16:29     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they look nice and it helps family members pick them out of a crowd. But maybe that was my school- my graduating class was over 1k.



How about the trans kids then? kids who are they/them?


There are a miniscule number of trans kids and presumably they would wear the color of the gender with which they identify. This isn't hard. Why are trying to make it so?


There are lots of nonbinary kids who don't identify with either gender, and thus, can't do what you are suggesting.

It's a stupid tradition. My high school used to have separate valedictorians, male and female. That was also a stupid tradition. There is no reason not to just have one color.


No, see. There are not "a lot." There's a miniscule number. They can still choose one or the other. The rest of society does not need to bend over backwards to accommodate them or subjugate traditions because it makes them uncomfortable. We'll accept them for who they are, but they also need to just get with the program and realize that a small number of people who march to a different drummer don't get to make demands on society at large that upend the norm. It doesn't work that way.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 16:27     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they look nice and it helps family members pick them out of a crowd. But maybe that was my school- my graduating class was over 1k.


Maybe just offer two colours and let kids pick which they like better? Or alternate or randomly assign color? Why unnecessarily add gender to the equation if it’s going stress some students out?



Because maybe it should be a reality check that the real world won't bend over backwards to accommodate your preferences and comfort?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 16:26     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they look nice and it helps family members pick them out of a crowd. But maybe that was my school- my graduating class was over 1k.



How about the trans kids then? kids who are they/them?


There are a miniscule number of trans kids and presumably they would wear the color of the gender with which they identify. This isn't hard. Why are trying to make it so?


There are lots of nonbinary kids who don't identify with either gender, and thus, can't do what you are suggesting.

It's a stupid tradition. My high school used to have separate valedictorians, male and female. That was also a stupid tradition. There is no reason not to just have one color.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 16:26     Subject: Re:Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:When my daughter was in K her class rebelled and refused to wear the gendered gowns, the (elementary) school then switched to school tshirts for graduation.


The bigger problem there was graduation gowns for grammar school students. WTF.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 16:25     Subject: Re:Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When my daughter was in K her class rebelled and refused to wear the gendered gowns, the (elementary) school then switched to school tshirts for graduation.


Why do I doubt the impetus for such a rebellion did NOT come from the kindergartners themselves?


We didn't do Kindergarten graduation, but at that age my younger kid was at the height of getting upset about "unfair" random things. If his female friends had gotten to wear his favorite color and he didn't? He would have been indignant, and I very well might have said "you know what, it is kind of a silly rule" and advocated for him to get the color he wanted.

Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 16:24     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they look nice and it helps family members pick them out of a crowd. But maybe that was my school- my graduating class was over 1k.



How about the trans kids then? kids who are they/them?


There are a miniscule number of trans kids and presumably they would wear the color of the gender with which they identify. This isn't hard. Why are trying to make it so?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 16:22     Subject: Re:Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

I can’t stand the tradition of girls wearing white. I actually wrote my college application essay on this topic 25 years ago. Our colors were green and gold but the gowns were green (boys) and white (girls).
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 15:22     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ITS 2022 AND SOME graduation gowns STILL gendered.... IN PWCS. What's the point? they used to be gender neutral


I graduated HS 40 years ago and the boys and girls wore different color gowns.

Find something more substantial to whine about.



That was when trans didn't have rights, I will be speaking to the school board I am already emailing the principal


Can't they just pick which one they want to wear?


Everyone should wear the same color gown. ACHS let’s kids pick red, white, or blue, and it looks very random TBH.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 15:12     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:ITS 2022 AND SOME graduation gowns STILL gendered.... IN PWCS. What's the point? they used to be gender neutral


I mean unless they are pink and blue than whatever colors they are, are gender neutral. And kids are not seated by gender are they? So a kid can wear whatever color they prefer and nothing will happen.

I never even realized these things came in color until I was an adult. We all just wore black.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 15:00     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:ITS 2022 AND SOME graduation gowns STILL gendered.... IN PWCS. What's the point? they used to be gender neutral


Unity Reed only has one color gown. And they did when they were Stonewall Jackson as well.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 14:48     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:I think they look nice and it helps family members pick them out of a crowd. But maybe that was my school- my graduating class was over 1k.


Maybe just offer two colours and let kids pick which they like better? Or alternate or randomly assign color? Why unnecessarily add gender to the equation if it’s going stress some students out?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 14:45     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they look nice and it helps family members pick them out of a crowd. But maybe that was my school- my graduating class was over 1k.



How about the trans kids then? kids who are they/them?


Sorry, we can't have 56 different color gowns to match all the different bespoke pronouns.


No need for that attitude. The school could have the same for everyone.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 14:43     Subject: Re:Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:When my daughter was in K her class rebelled and refused to wear the gendered gowns, the (elementary) school then switched to school tshirts for graduation.


Why do I doubt the impetus for such a rebellion did NOT come from the kindergartners themselves?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 14:41     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ITS 2022 AND SOME graduation gowns STILL gendered.... IN PWCS. What's the point? they used to be gender neutral


I graduated HS 40 years ago and the boys and girls wore different color gowns.

Find something more substantial to whine about.



That was when trans didn't have rights, I will be speaking to the school board I am already emailing the principal


Can't they just pick which one they want to wear?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2022 12:34     Subject: Why are some graduation gowns STILL gendered?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ITS 2022 AND SOME graduation gowns STILL gendered.... IN PWCS. What's the point? they used to be gender neutral


I graduated HS 40 years ago and the boys and girls wore different color gowns.

Find something more substantial to whine about.



That was when trans didn't have rights, I will be speaking to the school board I am already emailing the principal


Good. Maybe you should also talk to the manager while you're at it.



The principal is the manager so I am.