Anonymous wrote:This isn't a political post, so posting here -- Is Al Gore III doing OK? Whatever happened to author Karenna who married that nice rich dr Schiff? You just never hear about them at all.
Anonymous wrote:Looking at the Gore kids' bios now, it seems like at least 3/4 graduated from Harvard (not sure about Sarah). Let's assume there was some sort of legacy/name thing that worked in their favor then ... Does the same sort of influence still work today -- or have we moved beyond that in the past 20-30 years? (Sorry if this question is naive; I'm genuinely wondering.)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at the Gore kids' bios now, it seems like at least 3/4 graduated from Harvard (not sure about Sarah). Let's assume there was some sort of legacy/name thing that worked in their favor then ... Does the same sort of influence still work today -- or have we moved beyond that in the past 20-30 years? (Sorry if this question is naive; I'm genuinely wondering.)
I went to high school with them. Karenna was a rock star over achiever who would have had a good shot at Harvard regardless of legacy - varsity athlete, student government, good grades, president of government club etc. Kristen was also avoid student and athlete. I don’t know Sarah - she was younger. But they were impressive teens regardless.
But yes unless things have changed in the past two years, being a legacy helps a lot at Harvard. Slate did an article a few years back with some amazing statistics, for example, 1/3 of Harvard students are legacies
Anonymous wrote:Looking at the Gore kids' bios now, it seems like at least 3/4 graduated from Harvard (not sure about Sarah). Let's assume there was some sort of legacy/name thing that worked in their favor then ... Does the same sort of influence still work today -- or have we moved beyond that in the past 20-30 years? (Sorry if this question is naive; I'm genuinely wondering.)
Anonymous wrote:I forgot about the Gores! And now I’m feeling surprised all over again that Al & Tipper split.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at the Gore kids' bios now, it seems like at least 3/4 graduated from Harvard (not sure about Sarah). Let's assume there was some sort of legacy/name thing that worked in their favor then ... Does the same sort of influence still work today -- or have we moved beyond that in the past 20-30 years? (Sorry if this question is naive; I'm genuinely wondering.)
If you are a run-of-the-mill legacy (i.e. your parent went to an Ivy but they are not influential or very wealthy) then that doesn’t carry as much weight as it used to. But if your parent was Vice President, yes, Harvard will accept you. That will be true forever.
+1. One of the Bush cousins was at Princeton while he was President. Some journalist did a report on famous/rich/legacy kids getting into Ivy League schools and found that her SAT scores were pretty mediocre. But her last name was Bush.
How does this become known? Just as the student fills out the alumni connections part of their application? Because Bush is a common last name. What if the entire family went to Yale and the kid is trying to get into Harvard? How is that made known when there isn’t a huge donation but it’s really about the name?
When I applied to college, it asked for parental names and college degrees. This was an issue 20 years ago (see Lauren Bush article). Now with google it's very easy to see *who* are the bold faced named kids.
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/28/nyregion/files-searched-on-yale-site-included-those-of-lauren-bush.html
When I applied to Ivy grad school, Penn had me list all immediate family members with Ivy degrees.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at the Gore kids' bios now, it seems like at least 3/4 graduated from Harvard (not sure about Sarah). Let's assume there was some sort of legacy/name thing that worked in their favor then ... Does the same sort of influence still work today -- or have we moved beyond that in the past 20-30 years? (Sorry if this question is naive; I'm genuinely wondering.)
If you are a run-of-the-mill legacy (i.e. your parent went to an Ivy but they are not influential or very wealthy) then that doesn’t carry as much weight as it used to. But if your parent was Vice President, yes, Harvard will accept you. That will be true forever.
+1. One of the Bush cousins was at Princeton while he was President. Some journalist did a report on famous/rich/legacy kids getting into Ivy League schools and found that her SAT scores were pretty mediocre. But her last name was Bush.
How does this become known? Just as the student fills out the alumni connections part of their application? Because Bush is a common last name. What if the entire family went to Yale and the kid is trying to get into Harvard? How is that made known when there isn’t a huge donation but it’s really about the name?
When I applied to college, it asked for parental names and college degrees. This was an issue 20 years ago (see Lauren Bush article). Now with google it's very easy to see *who* are the bold faced named kids.
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/28/nyregion/files-searched-on-yale-site-included-those-of-lauren-bush.html
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at the Gore kids' bios now, it seems like at least 3/4 graduated from Harvard (not sure about Sarah). Let's assume there was some sort of legacy/name thing that worked in their favor then ... Does the same sort of influence still work today -- or have we moved beyond that in the past 20-30 years? (Sorry if this question is naive; I'm genuinely wondering.)
If you are a run-of-the-mill legacy (i.e. your parent went to an Ivy but they are not influential or very wealthy) then that doesn’t carry as much weight as it used to. But if your parent was Vice President, yes, Harvard will accept you. That will be true forever.
+1. One of the Bush cousins was at Princeton while he was President. Some journalist did a report on famous/rich/legacy kids getting into Ivy League schools and found that her SAT scores were pretty mediocre. But her last name was Bush.
How does this become known? Just as the student fills out the alumni connections part of their application? Because Bush is a common last name. What if the entire family went to Yale and the kid is trying to get into Harvard? How is that made known when there isn’t a huge donation but it’s really about the name?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at the Gore kids' bios now, it seems like at least 3/4 graduated from Harvard (not sure about Sarah). Let's assume there was some sort of legacy/name thing that worked in their favor then ... Does the same sort of influence still work today -- or have we moved beyond that in the past 20-30 years? (Sorry if this question is naive; I'm genuinely wondering.)
If you are a run-of-the-mill legacy (i.e. your parent went to an Ivy but they are not influential or very wealthy) then that doesn’t carry as much weight as it used to. But if your parent was Vice President, yes, Harvard will accept you. That will be true forever.
+1. One of the Bush cousins was at Princeton while he was President. Some journalist did a report on famous/rich/legacy kids getting into Ivy League schools and found that her SAT scores were pretty mediocre. But her last name was Bush.
How does this become known? Just as the student fills out the alumni connections part of their application? Because Bush is a common last name. What if the entire family went to Yale and the kid is trying to get into Harvard? How is that made known when there isn’t a huge donation but it’s really about the name?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at the Gore kids' bios now, it seems like at least 3/4 graduated from Harvard (not sure about Sarah). Let's assume there was some sort of legacy/name thing that worked in their favor then ... Does the same sort of influence still work today -- or have we moved beyond that in the past 20-30 years? (Sorry if this question is naive; I'm genuinely wondering.)
If you are a run-of-the-mill legacy (i.e. your parent went to an Ivy but they are not influential or very wealthy) then that doesn’t carry as much weight as it used to. But if your parent was Vice President, yes, Harvard will accept you. That will be true forever.
+1. One of the Bush cousins was at Princeton while he was President. Some journalist did a report on famous/rich/legacy kids getting into Ivy League schools and found that her SAT scores were pretty mediocre. But her last name was Bush.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking at the Gore kids' bios now, it seems like at least 3/4 graduated from Harvard (not sure about Sarah). Let's assume there was some sort of legacy/name thing that worked in their favor then ... Does the same sort of influence still work today -- or have we moved beyond that in the past 20-30 years? (Sorry if this question is naive; I'm genuinely wondering.)
If you are a run-of-the-mill legacy (i.e. your parent went to an Ivy but they are not influential or very wealthy) then that doesn’t carry as much weight as it used to. But if your parent was Vice President, yes, Harvard will accept you. That will be true forever.