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Anonymous wrote:Which HS? Some send many, many kids off to Ivies back then.

North Miami Beach. A public high school in Florida. Surprised that 9 kids would have such great placement.

We have no idea how numbers one through nine have done.

This^. Just because #9 went to Harvard, doesn’t mean 1-8 got accepted there or at similar schools.

Anonymous wrote:Was it really that easy back then? Sandburg was 9th in her public high school class and got accepted to Harvard. Did she do something extraordinary like ranked tennis player??

Her dad went to Hopkins and was an Ophthalmologist, so they were full pay I’m sure that helped.

Idk what she had or not but being full pay is peanuts for these wealthy schools with multibillion endowments, unless you can donate above millions, you get no bump in admissions.

+1

Started at Cornell in 1991 and tuition was ~$25k IIRC. Many students had loans, grants, scholarships.

And my public HS in the NE sent tons of kids to top 20 schools. Top 10 were mostly HYPSM.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably a large high school.

And, most people then would not have even applied to the Ivy leagues, either assuming they couldn't get in or couldn't afford it.

True. Loans weren't really an option when she graduated high school. I'm her age. I went to Cornell, as my father literally got an inheritance from a rich uncle that paid for it, but many of my peers who were as smart or smarter than me went to SUNY schools because private schools were not affordable. Without that money, I'd probably be a proud SUNY Binghamton grad.

Really? I'm 43 and loans were absolutely widely available when I went to college in 1996. Did it change that much from the mid 80s to the mid 90s?

Student Loan Reform Act was in 1993. That was a significant change. I was out of school by then and would not have had access to those loans. https://lendedu.com/blog/history-of-student-loans

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably a large high school.

And, most people then would not have even applied to the Ivy leagues, either assuming they couldn't get in or couldn't afford it.

True. Loans weren't really an option when she graduated high school. I'm her age. I went to Cornell, as my father literally got an inheritance from a rich uncle that paid for it, but many of my peers who were as smart or smarter than me went to SUNY schools because private schools were not affordable. Without that money, I'd probably be a proud SUNY Binghamton grad.

Really? I'm 43 and loans were absolutely widely available when I went to college in 1996. Did it change that much from the mid 80s to the mid 90s?

I'm in my 50s and lots of my classmates got loans and grants. Private institutions were often more affordable even then, thanks to endowments

I went to HYPS in 1992. I think that the total cost of attendance was around $21,000. My parents paid about $6,000/year. I took out the maximum in loans. The rest was grants.

Oops, upon further research, I think that the total cost of attendance was closer to $25,000. Anyway, loans were definitely in existence and used.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably a large high school.

And, most people then would not have even applied to the Ivy leagues, either assuming they couldn't get in or couldn't afford it.

True. Loans weren't really an option when she graduated high school. I'm her age. I went to Cornell, as my father literally got an inheritance from a rich uncle that paid for it, but many of my peers who were as smart or smarter than me went to SUNY schools because private schools were not affordable. Without that money, I'd probably be a proud SUNY Binghamton grad.

Really? I'm 43 and loans were absolutely widely available when I went to college in 1996. Did it change that much from the mid 80s to the mid 90s?

I'm in my 50s and lots of my classmates got loans and grants. Private institutions were often more affordable even then, thanks to endowments

I went to HYPS in 1992. I think that the total cost of attendance was around $21,000. My parents paid about $6,000/year. I took out the maximum in loans. The rest was grants.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably a large high school.

And, most people then would not have even applied to the Ivy leagues, either assuming they couldn't get in or couldn't afford it.

True. Loans weren't really an option when she graduated high school. I'm her age. I went to Cornell, as my father literally got an inheritance from a rich uncle that paid for it, but many of my peers who were as smart or smarter than me went to SUNY schools because private schools were not affordable. Without that money, I'd probably be a proud SUNY Binghamton grad.

Really? I'm 43 and loans were absolutely widely available when I went to college in 1996. Did it change that much from the mid 80s to the mid 90s?

I'm in my 50s and lots of my classmates got loans and grants. Private institutions were often more affordable even then, thanks to endowments

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Probably a large high school.

And, most people then would not have even applied to the Ivy leagues, either assuming they couldn't get in or couldn't afford it.

True. Loans weren't really an option when she graduated high school. I'm her age. I went to Cornell, as my father literally got an inheritance from a rich uncle that paid for it, but many of my peers who were as smart or smarter than me went to SUNY schools because private schools were not affordable. Without that money, I'd probably be a proud SUNY Binghamton grad.

Really? I'm 43 and loans were absolutely widely available when I went to college in 1996. Did it change that much from the mid 80s to the mid 90s?

Class rank doesn’t really matter much, particularly if it based on UW GPA. Kid 1 may have 4.7 WGPA but a 3.9 UW; Kid 2 4.3 WGPA/4.0 - but have a higher class rank than kid 1. If Kid 1 has more rigor, high AP scores and higher SATs than kid 2 - class rank doesn’t mean much.

Who’s Sandburg?

Anonymous wrote:Probably a large high school.

And, most people then would not have even applied to the Ivy leagues, either assuming they couldn't get in or couldn't afford it.

True. Loans weren't really an option when she graduated high school. I'm her age. I went to Cornell, as my father literally got an inheritance from a rich uncle that paid for it, but many of my peers who were as smart or smarter than me went to SUNY schools because private schools were not affordable. Without that money, I'd probably be a proud SUNY Binghamton grad.

In my large east coast public in the early 1980s, kids in the top 10 plus a few deeper went to Ivy or similar schools. Not like today. I think 1 was Stanford, 2 Dartmouth. Out of next 5 or so people went to local State school, Tufts, etc. I think the Harvard kid was 9? No hooks.

Harvard does not care if you are full pay then or now.

She’s 52 who cares now

Probably a large high school.

And, most people then would not have even applied to the Ivy leagues, either assuming they couldn't get in or couldn't afford it.

I graduated in the mid-90s from a public, suburban, western New York high school, and our school routinely sent 3 kids to Harvard, 3 to Stanford, a few to Yale and Princeton, 1 or 2 to MIT, and many others to the other top 20 schools. Basically everybody who took AP calculus (and applied themselves) got into what is now considered an “elite”, impossible to get into school.

There were a lot fewer kids back then.