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Anonymous wrote:Hearst Park Pool. Originally, it was going to be huge and built on the grass playing field. The field itself was going to be converted to artificial grass. That angered dog owners who use the park to exercise their dogs. It also angered others who protested that artificial grass is a heat sink and that Hearst is an increasingly rare natural urban oasis. There was also debate about removing the large trees that ring the park.

A compromise was worked out. A smaller version of the pool was built on an existing tennis court. The field is grass, but dogs are banned. (most dog owners seem to be respecting the ban. At least that's what I have noticed.) Construction was completed by removing a single ailing tree.

Demand for the pool last weekend was overwhelming. People were waiting in line for over an hour to get in. That proved that neighbors were right to be concerned about being crowded out of parking on their own streets. It also showed that there needs to be more outdoor pools in DC.

In the end, I think, NIMBY or YIMBY. A workable compromise was worked out.

The fact that people try to label public participation in policy decision making processes a performative term and insinuate that it’s bad is what bothers me. If people don’t like how decisions are made, get engaged yourselves. There is not some conspiracy afoot.

People with money getting engaged and filing lawsuits over environmental impacts is exactly how NIMBYism works in the US. It's why any kind of large scale construction is so much more expensive here than anywhere else in the world (including countries that pay their workers far more than we do)

I think you have an exaggerated sense of what’s going on and have developed a wild conspiracy that’s just not reflected in facts. Have you ever been to an ANC meeting? Every gone to your councilmember’s townhall? Showing up is like 90% of life. There is not some cabal of evil rich people out to get you.

Sure, and if you don't like the result, you head to court and file a lawsuit over environmental impacts. That's how NIMBYs actually operate. If you think otherwise, just look at the purple line. The NIMBYs lost, but a simple line a track will cost billons instead of millions thanks to their efforts

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst Park Pool. Originally, it was going to be huge and built on the grass playing field. The field itself was going to be converted to artificial grass. That angered dog owners who use the park to exercise their dogs. It also angered others who protested that artificial grass is a heat sink and that Hearst is an increasingly rare natural urban oasis. There was also debate about removing the large trees that ring the park.

A compromise was worked out. A smaller version of the pool was built on an existing tennis court. The field is grass, but dogs are banned. (most dog owners seem to be respecting the ban. At least that's what I have noticed.) Construction was completed by removing a single ailing tree.

Demand for the pool last weekend was overwhelming. People were waiting in line for over an hour to get in. That proved that neighbors were right to be concerned about being crowded out of parking on their own streets. It also showed that there needs to be more outdoor pools in DC.

In the end, I think, NIMBY or YIMBY. A workable compromise was worked out.

The fact that people try to label public participation in policy decision making processes a performative term and insinuate that it’s bad is what bothers me. If people don’t like how decisions are made, get engaged yourselves. There is not some conspiracy afoot.

People with money getting engaged and filing lawsuits over environmental impacts is exactly how NIMBYism works in the US. It's why any kind of large scale construction is so much more expensive here than anywhere else in the world (including countries that pay their workers far more than we do)

I think you have an exaggerated sense of what’s going on and have developed a wild conspiracy that’s just not reflected in facts. Have you ever been to an ANC meeting? Every gone to your councilmember’s townhall? Showing up is like 90% of life. There is not some cabal of evil rich people out to get you.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst Park Pool. Originally, it was going to be huge and built on the grass playing field. The field itself was going to be converted to artificial grass. That angered dog owners who use the park to exercise their dogs. It also angered others who protested that artificial grass is a heat sink and that Hearst is an increasingly rare natural urban oasis. There was also debate about removing the large trees that ring the park.

A compromise was worked out. A smaller version of the pool was built on an existing tennis court. The field is grass, but dogs are banned. (most dog owners seem to be respecting the ban. At least that's what I have noticed.) Construction was completed by removing a single ailing tree.

Demand for the pool last weekend was overwhelming. People were waiting in line for over an hour to get in. That proved that neighbors were right to be concerned about being crowded out of parking on their own streets. It also showed that there needs to be more outdoor pools in DC.

In the end, I think, NIMBY or YIMBY. A workable compromise was worked out.

The fact that people try to label public participation in policy decision making processes a performative term and insinuate that it’s bad is what bothers me. If people don’t like how decisions are made, get engaged yourselves. There is not some conspiracy afoot.

People with money getting engaged and filing lawsuits over environmental impacts is exactly how NIMBYism works in the US. It's why any kind of large scale construction is so much more expensive here than anywhere else in the world (including countries that pay their workers far more than we do)

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Anonymous wrote:Hearst Park Pool. Originally, it was going to be huge and built on the grass playing field. The field itself was going to be converted to artificial grass. That angered dog owners who use the park to exercise their dogs. It also angered others who protested that artificial grass is a heat sink and that Hearst is an increasingly rare natural urban oasis. There was also debate about removing the large trees that ring the park.

A compromise was worked out. A smaller version of the pool was built on an existing tennis court. The field is grass, but dogs are banned. (most dog owners seem to be respecting the ban. At least that's what I have noticed.) Construction was completed by removing a single ailing tree.

Demand for the pool last weekend was overwhelming. People were waiting in line for over an hour to get in. That proved that neighbors were right to be concerned about being crowded out of parking on their own streets. It also showed that there needs to be more outdoor pools in DC.

In the end, I think, NIMBY or YIMBY. A workable compromise was worked out.

The fact that people try to label public participation in policy decision making processes a performative term and insinuate that it’s bad is what bothers me. If people don’t like how decisions are made, get engaged yourselves. There is not some conspiracy afoot.

Anonymous wrote:Hearst Park Pool. Originally, it was going to be huge and built on the grass playing field. The field itself was going to be converted to artificial grass. That angered dog owners who use the park to exercise their dogs. It also angered others who protested that artificial grass is a heat sink and that Hearst is an increasingly rare natural urban oasis. There was also debate about removing the large trees that ring the park.

A compromise was worked out. A smaller version of the pool was built on an existing tennis court. The field is grass, but dogs are banned. (most dog owners seem to be respecting the ban. At least that's what I have noticed.) Construction was completed by removing a single ailing tree.

Demand for the pool last weekend was overwhelming. People were waiting in line for over an hour to get in. That proved that neighbors were right to be concerned about being crowded out of parking on their own streets. It also showed that there needs to be more outdoor pools in DC.

In the end, I think, NIMBY or YIMBY. A workable compromise was worked out.

Anonymous wrote:There seem to be a lot of people who advocate complete moratoriums on increasing density and construction (including of things like schools, retirement homes and grocery stores). But these just seems to lead to unaffordable neighborhoods with dying retail. Are they any good examples of NIMBY success stories?

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Anonymous wrote:Our neighbors managed to stall the purple line for almost 5 years. We fought as hard as we could using every tool available to us. They might win in the end, but we got five extra years of peace and quiet on our street. So that’s something.

A pyrrhic victory, if there ever was one.

Pyrrhic or not, we haven’t had trains rumbling by our house for years longer than we otherwise would have. So there.

And you've exposed yourselves as intransigent, shortsighted busybodies objecting in bad faith. Congrats, I guess.

Yeah sure, b***h.

When the state says they’re going to put a railroad 50 feet from your bedroom you’d do the same thing we did. Go self-fornicate.

Wow, I guess I should add trashy to the list of odious qualities you all exhibit.

Personally, I understand that I am not entitled to dictate what others do with their property, much less fecklessly try to stonewall a project that is two decades in the making and will benefit hundreds of thousands of people.

NP. I wouldn't sacrifice myself for "hundreds of thousands" of strangers, either. My family's quality of life is what's most important to me. I'll support projects that help others as long as they don't make my life worse.

Well boy howdy do I have great news for you. The purple line actually increases your family's quality of life. You and your family will enjoy increased access to public transportation, reduced emissions from drivers switching transit modes, and the spillover effects of increased economic activity associated with the purple line.

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Anonymous wrote:Our neighbors managed to stall the purple line for almost 5 years. We fought as hard as we could using every tool available to us. They might win in the end, but we got five extra years of peace and quiet on our street. So that’s something.

A pyrrhic victory, if there ever was one.

Pyrrhic or not, we haven’t had trains rumbling by our house for years longer than we otherwise would have. So there.

And you've exposed yourselves as intransigent, shortsighted busybodies objecting in bad faith. Congrats, I guess.

Yeah sure, b***h.

When the state says they’re going to put a railroad 50 feet from your bedroom you’d do the same thing we did. Go self-fornicate.

Wow, I guess I should add trashy to the list of odious qualities you all exhibit.

Personally, I understand that I am not entitled to dictate what others do with their property, much less fecklessly try to stonewall a project that is two decades in the making and will benefit hundreds of thousands of people.

NP. I wouldn't sacrifice myself for "hundreds of thousands" of strangers, either. My family's quality of life is what's most important to me. I'll support projects that help others as long as they don't make my life worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Our neighbors managed to stall the purple line for almost 5 years. We fought as hard as we could using every tool available to us. They might win in the end, but we got five extra years of peace and quiet on our street. So that’s something.

A pyrrhic victory, if there ever was one.

Pyrrhic or not, we haven’t had trains rumbling by our house for years longer than we otherwise would have. So there.

And you've exposed yourselves as intransigent, shortsighted busybodies objecting in bad faith. Congrats, I guess.

Yeah sure, b***h.

When the state says they’re going to put a railroad 50 feet from your bedroom you’d do the same thing we did. Go self-fornicate.

Wow, I guess I should add trashy to the list of odious qualities you all exhibit.

Personally, I understand that I am not entitled to dictate what others do with their property, much less fecklessly try to stonewall a project that is two decades in the making and will benefit hundreds of thousands of people.

Anonymous wrote:Are not urban growth boundaries like the Montgomery County Agricultural Reserve NIMBYism?

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Anonymous wrote:Our neighbors managed to stall the purple line for almost 5 years. We fought as hard as we could using every tool available to us. They might win in the end, but we got five extra years of peace and quiet on our street. So that’s something.

A pyrrhic victory, if there ever was one.

Pyrrhic or not, we haven’t had trains rumbling by our house for years longer than we otherwise would have. So there.

And you've exposed yourselves as intransigent, shortsighted busybodies objecting in bad faith. Congrats, I guess.

Yeah sure, b***h.

When the state says they’re going to put a railroad 50 feet from your bedroom you’d do the same thing we did. Go self-fornicate.