Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 21:31     Subject: Resource Officers
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So weird that disruptive behaviors are getting worse . . . while there has yet to be any decrease in resource officers. If things are getting worse what's the benefit of having them?


There are 60 SROs total for about 90,000 students in DCPS and charters. It's a drop in the bucket. There's no way to know whether they could help reduce disruptive behavior because there's not enough to actually make a difference.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 21:21     Subject: Resource Officers
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Anonymous wrote:I don't want SROs in my kids' school. I went to school with an SRO and he did nothing - I never saw him intervene in a fight but I did see him walk kids out in cuffs for behaviors (including fighting) that would have been just as easily handled with a suspension.

The school to prison pipeline is real. SROs are a huge part of it.


Well DCPS doesn’t suspend students and the SRO can break up fights.

Your experience way back when is not reflective of the current environment. If we are able to suspend students then the need for SRO might not be as great.


Yes, DCPS can suspend students. There is a limit on the number of days a student can be suspended in a school year, but it's not a low limit and even then exceptions can be made if the student's behavior constitutes an emergency.


It’s not happening with their restorative justice BS. You have your head in the sand if you think students are being suspended for any behavior issues. Things have gone from bad to worst with behavior and disruptive classrooms since it was implemented.


So weird that disruptive behaviors are getting worse . . . while there has yet to be any decrease in resource officers. If things are getting worse what's the benefit of having them? Or do you anticipate that backtracking on phasing out SROs is some kind of sister policy linked to ending restorative justice in schools? Because that's not been advocated by anyone that I can find.

It's "from bad to worse", BTW.


Disruptive behaviors are getting worst because school’s hands are tied in not being able to suspend students. Talk to teachers and administrative staff. It’s not related to SRO at all.

The restorative justice sounds all grand and dandy on paper but as always no good laid out effective program or implementation typical of DCPS.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 20:28     Subject: Resource Officers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I don't want SROs in my kids' school. I went to school with an SRO and he did nothing - I never saw him intervene in a fight but I did see him walk kids out in cuffs for behaviors (including fighting) that would have been just as easily handled with a suspension.

The school to prison pipeline is real. SROs are a huge part of it.


Well DCPS doesn’t suspend students and the SRO can break up fights.

Your experience way back when is not reflective of the current environment. If we are able to suspend students then the need for SRO might not be as great.


Yes, DCPS can suspend students. There is a limit on the number of days a student can be suspended in a school year, but it's not a low limit and even then exceptions can be made if the student's behavior constitutes an emergency.


It’s not happening with their restorative justice BS. You have your head in the sand if you think students are being suspended for any behavior issues. Things have gone from bad to worst with behavior and disruptive classrooms since it was implemented.


So weird that disruptive behaviors are getting worse . . . while there has yet to be any decrease in resource officers. If things are getting worse what's the benefit of having them? Or do you anticipate that backtracking on phasing out SROs is some kind of sister policy linked to ending restorative justice in schools? Because that's not been advocated by anyone that I can find.

It's "from bad to worse", BTW.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 14:37     Subject: Resource Officers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't want SROs in my kids' school. I went to school with an SRO and he did nothing - I never saw him intervene in a fight but I did see him walk kids out in cuffs for behaviors (including fighting) that would have been just as easily handled with a suspension.

The school to prison pipeline is real. SROs are a huge part of it.


Well DCPS doesn’t suspend students and the SRO can break up fights.

Your experience way back when is not reflective of the current environment. If we are able to suspend students then the need for SRO might not be as great.


Yes, DCPS can suspend students. There is a limit on the number of days a student can be suspended in a school year, but it's not a low limit and even then exceptions can be made if the student's behavior constitutes an emergency.


It’s not happening with their restorative justice BS. You have your head in the sand if you think students are being suspended for any behavior issues. Things have gone from bad to worst with behavior and disruptive classrooms since it was implemented.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 13:22     Subject: Resource Officers
Just another reason for teachers leaving the profession. They can't solve every problem that a child has. The last thing I want is a teacher trying to break up a fight especially in high school.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 11:58     Subject: Resource Officers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't want SROs in my kids' school. I went to school with an SRO and he did nothing - I never saw him intervene in a fight but I did see him walk kids out in cuffs for behaviors (including fighting) that would have been just as easily handled with a suspension.

The school to prison pipeline is real. SROs are a huge part of it.


Well DCPS doesn’t suspend students and the SRO can break up fights.

Your experience way back when is not reflective of the current environment. If we are able to suspend students then the need for SRO might not be as great.


Yes, DCPS can suspend students. There is a limit on the number of days a student can be suspended in a school year, but it's not a low limit and even then exceptions can be made if the student's behavior constitutes an emergency.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 11:54     Subject: Resource Officers
Anonymous wrote:There are SROs now and have been for years. If they are the answer to controlling/addressing violence, why is it going up? Seems to me the money could be better spent on other types of interventions that address root causes of violence, like mental health support.

Exactly. They are still in schools and violence is up.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 11:32     Subject: Resource Officers
Anonymous wrote:I don't want SROs in my kids' school. I went to school with an SRO and he did nothing - I never saw him intervene in a fight but I did see him walk kids out in cuffs for behaviors (including fighting) that would have been just as easily handled with a suspension.

The school to prison pipeline is real. SROs are a huge part of it.


Well DCPS doesn’t suspend students and the SRO can break up fights.

Your experience way back when is not reflective of the current environment. If we are able to suspend students then the need for SRO might not be as great.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 10:52     Subject: Resource Officers
I don't want SROs in my kids' school. I went to school with an SRO and he did nothing - I never saw him intervene in a fight but I did see him walk kids out in cuffs for behaviors (including fighting) that would have been just as easily handled with a suspension.

The school to prison pipeline is real. SROs are a huge part of it.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 10:46     Subject: Resource Officers
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:There are SROs now and have been for years. If they are the answer to controlling/addressing violence, why is it going up? Seems to me the money could be better spent on other types of interventions that address root causes of violence, like mental health support.


Couldn't you also use this same criticism for any mitigation measure that doesn't completely eliminate the harm? Like vaccines, seat belts, smoking cessation, sun block, etc?


Um...no? All of those things are proven to save lives. There is no evidence that SROs reduce crime or disruption in schools--and lots of evidence that they increase criminalization of behaviors that could be handled through other discipline.


With grosso’s bill there is no discipline. There have been so many knives at deal this year…


You mean knives taken after detection thru the metal detector?


Nope, ones that made it through the detector.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 10:35     Subject: Resource Officers
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Um...no? All of those things are proven to save lives. There is no evidence that SROs reduce crime or disruption in schools--and lots of evidence that they increase criminalization of behaviors that could be handled through other discipline.


Also not true, but a powerful talking point.
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 09:10     Subject: Resource Officers
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:There are SROs now and have been for years. If they are the answer to controlling/addressing violence, why is it going up? Seems to me the money could be better spent on other types of interventions that address root causes of violence, like mental health support.


Couldn't you also use this same criticism for any mitigation measure that doesn't completely eliminate the harm? Like vaccines, seat belts, smoking cessation, sun block, etc?


Um...no? All of those things are proven to save lives. There is no evidence that SROs reduce crime or disruption in schools--and lots of evidence that they increase criminalization of behaviors that could be handled through other discipline.


With grosso’s bill there is no discipline. There have been so many knives at deal this year…


You mean knives taken after detection thru the metal detector?
Anonymous
Post 05/12/2022 05:03     Subject: Resource Officers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are SROs now and have been for years. If they are the answer to controlling/addressing violence, why is it going up? Seems to me the money could be better spent on other types of interventions that address root causes of violence, like mental health support.


Couldn't you also use this same criticism for any mitigation measure that doesn't completely eliminate the harm? Like vaccines, seat belts, smoking cessation, sun block, etc?


Um...no? All of those things are proven to save lives. There is no evidence that SROs reduce crime or disruption in schools--and lots of evidence that they increase criminalization of behaviors that could be handled through other discipline.


With grosso’s bill there is no discipline. There have been so many knives at deal this year…