Anonymous
Post 05/09/2022 08:08     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I read through these responses just thoroughly disgusted with most of them. Just had to say that. Only in America would people be ridiculing someone for taking sick leave for being sick. This woman even worked while she had covid! And you all are saying that when she is sick, take DayQuil and get your butt in gear.

Is this really how you guys want to be living your lives?


This is a response from a privileged. A huge portion of the population gets no sick leave and every sick event causes a risk of unemployment. Sadly people in this position have no other options.


It doesn't mean people need to accept being treated terribly. Then people complain about women becoming SAHM - this is why it happens.
Anonymous
Post 05/09/2022 08:07     Subject: Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:You have sick leave, and if you are using it, then I don't think they have ground to stand on in terms of your performance. However, you could in theory be demoted if you weren't doing your job. I think you should just make sure you are following everything to the T - follow the rules on how you are supposed to handle using sick leave, and document it when you are working even while sick. Make sure there isn't anything easy that they could call you out on, and do your best on things.

If they did try to demote you, they would be total jerks. Either way, I don't think you want this job. I would start looking elsewhere. No one should be treated like this.


+1. I wouldn't stay at that job if I had a choice. Yes, that's a privileged perspective.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 23:57     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:I read through these responses just thoroughly disgusted with most of them. Just had to say that. Only in America would people be ridiculing someone for taking sick leave for being sick. This woman even worked while she had covid! And you all are saying that when she is sick, take DayQuil and get your butt in gear.

Is this really how you guys want to be living your lives?


This is a response from a privileged. A huge portion of the population gets no sick leave and every sick event causes a risk of unemployment. Sadly people in this position have no other options.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 23:54     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You need to be going to work with the vast majority of those “runny noses and tummy bugs,” unless you’re projectile vomiting or having nonstop diarrhea (rare). Load up with some DayQuil and get to work.


Please dont. That could be COVID. Work remotely if sick.


If you have possible COVID symptoms get a test. Results are available same day and accuracy is high when symptomatic. We’re talking about office jobs with health insurance, not Walmart cashiers. In 2022, “but..but COVID!” is not a valid reason to stay home for every sniffle.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 23:48     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I read through these responses just thoroughly disgusted with most of them. Just had to say that. Only in America would people be ridiculing someone for taking sick leave for being sick. This woman even worked while she had covid! And you all are saying that when she is sick, take DayQuil and get your butt in gear.

Is this really how you guys want to be living your lives?


Yes, adults go to work with colds and minor illnesses. Welcome to being a responsible grownup.


And OP says she hasn't missed much work from her illnesses. But imagine feeling too sick to really get any work done and really needing a day of rest- or your kid is home vomiting and you need to take care of him- and the response is "buck up get get to work!". Does that really make you happy, to live your life that way? If not- if you'd actually like to use sick time yourself when you're feeling too ill to work- why the ridicule and anger at people actually using their sick time that I'm seeing on this thread? It's really gross.

It's one thing to have no sick time and be living paycheck to paycheck, because our country is abysmal, and to have to live with that awful fact. But if you have sick time and./or are getting your work done remotely, to be chided by your boss for having the audacity to be sick and to have it be mentioned that you're sick... like, why? People get sick!


If my kid was vomiting, I’d stay home, but I’d also be a mature person who understands that my employer hired me because they need a job done, and if they wanted it done “remotely” on a regular basis, they’d have put that policy into place. Working remotely with COVID? Yes. For “sniffles and tummy bugs?” No.

I’d also understand that as my kid acclimated to being in daycare or school, that a lot of minor sicknesses being shared to me are normal and not a reason to miss enough work that my employer has noted it and mentioned it to me. Oh, and sometimes my kid’s other parent can be the one to stay home, if I want to keep my job.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 23:36     Subject: Can you be demoted because of health condition?
You have sick leave, and if you are using it, then I don't think they have ground to stand on in terms of your performance. However, you could in theory be demoted if you weren't doing your job. I think you should just make sure you are following everything to the T - follow the rules on how you are supposed to handle using sick leave, and document it when you are working even while sick. Make sure there isn't anything easy that they could call you out on, and do your best on things.

If they did try to demote you, they would be total jerks. Either way, I don't think you want this job. I would start looking elsewhere. No one should be treated like this.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 23:28     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:You need to be going to work with the vast majority of those “runny noses and tummy bugs,” unless you’re projectile vomiting or having nonstop diarrhea (rare). Load up with some DayQuil and get to work.


Please dont. That could be COVID. Work remotely if sick.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 23:15     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I read through these responses just thoroughly disgusted with most of them. Just had to say that. Only in America would people be ridiculing someone for taking sick leave for being sick. This woman even worked while she had covid! And you all are saying that when she is sick, take DayQuil and get your butt in gear.

Is this really how you guys want to be living your lives?


Yes, adults go to work with colds and minor illnesses. Welcome to being a responsible grownup.


And OP says she hasn't missed much work from her illnesses. But imagine feeling too sick to really get any work done and really needing a day of rest- or your kid is home vomiting and you need to take care of him- and the response is "buck up get get to work!". Does that really make you happy, to live your life that way? If not- if you'd actually like to use sick time yourself when you're feeling too ill to work- why the ridicule and anger at people actually using their sick time that I'm seeing on this thread? It's really gross.

It's one thing to have no sick time and be living paycheck to paycheck, because our country is abysmal, and to have to live with that awful fact. But if you have sick time and./or are getting your work done remotely, to be chided by your boss for having the audacity to be sick and to have it be mentioned that you're sick... like, why? People get sick!
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 21:40     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:I read through these responses just thoroughly disgusted with most of them. Just had to say that. Only in America would people be ridiculing someone for taking sick leave for being sick. This woman even worked while she had covid! And you all are saying that when she is sick, take DayQuil and get your butt in gear.

Is this really how you guys want to be living your lives?


Yes, adults go to work with colds and minor illnesses. Welcome to being a responsible grownup.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 21:40     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I work in social security disability and quite a few people file after being fired due to their health condition.


Colds and “tummy bugs” are not “a health condition.”
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 21:39     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:I read through these responses just thoroughly disgusted with most of them. Just had to say that. Only in America would people be ridiculing someone for taking sick leave for being sick. This woman even worked while she had covid! And you all are saying that when she is sick, take DayQuil and get your butt in gear.

Is this really how you guys want to be living your lives?


NP. It’s not how things should be in the workplace, but the reality is, that’s how things *are*.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 21:30     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Anonymous wrote:I read through these responses just thoroughly disgusted with most of them. Just had to say that. Only in America would people be ridiculing someone for taking sick leave for being sick. This woman even worked while she had covid! And you all are saying that when she is sick, take DayQuil and get your butt in gear.

Is this really how you guys want to be living your lives?


NP and I don’t think this response is only in America. Many places have no job security, sick leave, FMLA, etc.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 21:21     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
Yes, I work in social security disability and quite a few people file after being fired due to their health condition.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 21:18     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
I read through these responses just thoroughly disgusted with most of them. Just had to say that. Only in America would people be ridiculing someone for taking sick leave for being sick. This woman even worked while she had covid! And you all are saying that when she is sick, take DayQuil and get your butt in gear.

Is this really how you guys want to be living your lives?
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2022 21:13     Subject: Re:Can you be demoted because of health condition?
You need to be going to work with the vast majority of those “runny noses and tummy bugs,” unless you’re projectile vomiting or having nonstop diarrhea (rare). Load up with some DayQuil and get to work.