Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 16:39     Subject: UVM 2026
But my point is that you said it has always been hot and that’s just not true. Yes the last two years it’s been popular but not before that for a long time.

Not sure why you’re fighting me on this PP. i like UVM.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 16:02     Subject: UVM 2026
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid picked it over Tulane and BU to study environmental science and has had a great freshman year. Significant merit aid and it seems a lot of kids there truly believed in picking their school based on fit (even if the fit is access to snowboarding) so there are a lot of happy students. Spring semester should be called Winter semester though. They’re coming home right when the weather finally turns good


ha that is true, didn't go to UVM but when to a similarly situated school and we never saw good weather during the school year. Maybe the week of finals. I visited once in the summer and hardly recognized it.

UVM used to be a very well respected state school, hard to get into even. It has fallen alot due to lack of funding from the state among other issues, but Burlington is a great college town. Spent much time there.


You’re just making stuff up. UVM was never particularly difficult to get into. Founded as a private college in 1791, its prestige comes from the fact that it is one of only a few dozen colleges dating back to the 1700s. And to the fact that it has a private school feel due to the fact that 3/4 of its students are from out of state. And due to the fact that it doesn’t feel like a factory processing 40-50,000 students every year like many state flagships. With only 10,000 or so students, the UVM experience feels much more personal.

UVM is not suffering from a lack of state funding. That’s not its business model. It doesn’t depend on VT’s small tax base like other flagships do pecisel because it has so many students paying out of state tuition, which is set at 250% of instate tuition by statute. It has an endowment of $3/4 billion dollars, which is triple the endowment of similar size New England flagships like UNH and URI. Money is not one of their problems.

As for weather, cold, snowy weather is precisely what most people are looking for when they go there. Obviously not you. It’s like complaining about snow in the Swiss Alps.



"am not making stuff up". I happen to like UVM and applied there way back in the late 1980s. I got into U Richmond but waitlisted at UVM for example. It WAS more difficult to get into then than it is now. I actually looked at it for my kids who are starting the process and was shocked at how it has fallen in status.

If you do some googling, you can see that UVM has been cutting several majors in their arts and sciences in order to meet budget.

This is from an old article dated 2002:
UVM’s academic reputation has fallen far from the glory days of the 1980s, when the school was acclaimed as a “public Ivy.” The university now attracts packs of out-of-state students who, as their SUVs attest, are able to afford the whopping tuition rates the school charges to compensate for the scant support it gets from the Legislature. Vermonters attending UVM have big bills to pay as well; tuition for in-staters is the highest of any land-grant university in the country.

Not making anything up. I had several friends who went to school there and still live in VT so i get the scoop.


Their applications are soaring, highest in school history by far. topping 30,000 this year. Average SATs are 1347. Back in 1985, when it was selected as a public Ivy they were 1159. Acceptance rate was 59%, similar to what it was 30 years ago. Average gpa is 3.8. Admissions is calling it the most qualified class they’ve ever had, continuing a trend that they’ve seen for the past decade.

The article you’ve quoted is accurate. But that same article could have been written about many other colleges at that time. 2002 came on the heels of the smallest high school graduating classes in the 1990s that the US had seen in 50 years, going back to before the baby boom. UVM expanded in the late ‘80s and early ‘90s as it had seen demand increase after it’s public Ivy designation, but when demand fell with declining enrollment, so did their revenue stream. Many private colleges were facing the same problems.

But that article you cite is 20 years old and it doesn’t reflect the realities of today.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 15:42     Subject: Re:UVM 2026
If you do some googling, you can see that UVM has been cutting several majors in their arts and sciences in order to meet budget.
Quite a few schools have made this type of announcement or in the process of reviewing programs. Most schools had significant, unexpected pandemic related costs that require budgets to be revisited under new light. The schools that will survive must make changes (several schools have already closed). Redirecting resources away from unpopular programs is fiscally smart, and I expect more schools to make similar changes.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 15:30     Subject: UVM 2026
Anonymous wrote:I had to google UVM.

Maybe you should brush up on your nearby colleges instead of posting that here. It’s not our fault you don’t know Univ of Vermont. Large state school. Assume every state has at least one.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 15:10     Subject: UVM 2026
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid picked it over Tulane and BU to study environmental science and has had a great freshman year. Significant merit aid and it seems a lot of kids there truly believed in picking their school based on fit (even if the fit is access to snowboarding) so there are a lot of happy students. Spring semester should be called Winter semester though. They’re coming home right when the weather finally turns good


ha that is true, didn't go to UVM but when to a similarly situated school and we never saw good weather during the school year. Maybe the week of finals. I visited once in the summer and hardly recognized it.

UVM used to be a very well respected state school, hard to get into even. It has fallen alot due to lack of funding from the state among other issues, but Burlington is a great college town. Spent much time there.


You’re just making stuff up. UVM was never particularly difficult to get into. Founded as a private college in 1791, its prestige comes from the fact that it is one of only a few dozen colleges dating back to the 1700s. And to the fact that it has a private school feel due to the fact that 3/4 of its students are from out of state. And due to the fact that it doesn’t feel like a factory processing 40-50,000 students every year like many state flagships. With only 10,000 or so students, the UVM experience feels much more personal.

UVM is not suffering from a lack of state funding. That’s not its business model. It doesn’t depend on VT’s small tax base like other flagships do pecisel because it has so many students paying out of state tuition, which is set at 250% of instate tuition by statute. It has an endowment of $3/4 billion dollars, which is triple the endowment of similar size New England flagships like UNH and URI. Money is not one of their problems.

As for weather, cold, snowy weather is precisely what most people are looking for when they go there. Obviously not you. It’s like complaining about snow in the Swiss Alps.



"am not making stuff up". I happen to like UVM and applied there way back in the late 1980s. I got into U Richmond but waitlisted at UVM for example. It WAS more difficult to get into then than it is now. I actually looked at it for my kids who are starting the process and was shocked at how it has fallen in status.

If you do some googling, you can see that UVM has been cutting several majors in their arts and sciences in order to meet budget.

This is from an old article dated 2002:
UVM’s academic reputation has fallen far from the glory days of the 1980s, when the school was acclaimed as a “public Ivy.” The university now attracts packs of out-of-state students who, as their SUVs attest, are able to afford the whopping tuition rates the school charges to compensate for the scant support it gets from the Legislature. Vermonters attending UVM have big bills to pay as well; tuition for in-staters is the highest of any land-grant university in the country.

Not making anything up. I had several friends who went to school there and still live in VT so i get the scoop.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 14:47     Subject: UVM 2026
Anonymous wrote:The weather SUX


Unless you like cold and snow, which a lot of people do.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 14:32     Subject: UVM 2026
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid picked it over Tulane and BU to study environmental science and has had a great freshman year. Significant merit aid and it seems a lot of kids there truly believed in picking their school based on fit (even if the fit is access to snowboarding) so there are a lot of happy students. Spring semester should be called Winter semester though. They’re coming home right when the weather finally turns good


ha that is true, didn't go to UVM but when to a similarly situated school and we never saw good weather during the school year. Maybe the week of finals. I visited once in the summer and hardly recognized it.

UVM used to be a very well respected state school, hard to get into even. It has fallen alot due to lack of funding from the state among other issues, but Burlington is a great college town. Spent much time there.


You’re just making stuff up. UVM was never particularly difficult to get into. Founded as a private college in 1791, its prestige comes from the fact that it is one of only a few dozen colleges dating back to the 1700s. And to the fact that it has a private school feel due to the fact that 3/4 of its students are from out of state. And due to the fact that it doesn’t feel like a factory processing 40-50,000 students every year like many state flagships. With only 10,000 or so students, the UVM experience feels much more personal.

UVM is not suffering from a lack of state funding. That’s not its business model. It doesn’t depend on VT’s small tax base like other flagships do pecisel because it has so many students paying out of state tuition, which is set at 250% of instate tuition by statute. It has an endowment of $3/4 billion dollars, which is triple the endowment of similar size New England flagships like UNH and URI. Money is not one of their problems.

As for weather, cold, snowy weather is precisely what most people are looking for when they go there. Obviously not you. It’s like complaining about snow in the Swiss Alps.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 14:00     Subject: UVM 2026
Anonymous wrote:I think it has been pretty popular for at least 10 years. It used to be a safety school where even mediocre students from around here could get some merit aid. It is still a safety for high achievers. I agree with another poster that it is expensive. I don't know anybody this year that got more than $20,000, that puts you in the $41,000 range all-in. Maybe worth it for a couple of majors, but, if you can get into UVA or UMD probably not worth it.


My guess is lotta kids going to UVM don’t get into those schools. And I don’t mean that one bit as a dis, those state flagships are difficult to get into these days. The pics of UVM are beautiful, and I’m sure it’s a great option.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 13:53     Subject: UVM 2026
I think it has been pretty popular for at least 10 years. It used to be a safety school where even mediocre students from around here could get some merit aid. It is still a safety for high achievers. I agree with another poster that it is expensive. I don't know anybody this year that got more than $20,000, that puts you in the $41,000 range all-in. Maybe worth it for a couple of majors, but, if you can get into UVA or UMD probably not worth it.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2022 13:49     Subject: UVM 2026
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:None of the kids from the best private schools apply there. At least none I have ever seen. My senior said she’s never even heard anyone mention the school.


Thank you, all knowing poster. SMFH!


Right? Yeesh.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2022 09:47     Subject: UVM 2026
Anonymous wrote:None of the kids from the best private schools apply there. At least none I have ever seen. My senior said she’s never even heard anyone mention the school.


Thank you, all knowing poster. SMFH!
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2022 08:35     Subject: UVM 2026
The weather SUX
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2022 07:47     Subject: UVM 2026
Anonymous wrote:My kid picked it over Tulane and BU to study environmental science and has had a great freshman year. Significant merit aid and it seems a lot of kids there truly believed in picking their school based on fit (even if the fit is access to snowboarding) so there are a lot of happy students. Spring semester should be called Winter semester though. They’re coming home right when the weather finally turns good


ha that is true, didn't go to UVM but when to a similarly situated school and we never saw good weather during the school year. Maybe the week of finals. I visited once in the summer and hardly recognized it.

UVM used to be a very well respected state school, hard to get into even. It has fallen alot due to lack of funding from the state among other issues, but Burlington is a great college town. Spent much time there.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2022 05:52     Subject: UVM 2026
My kid picked it over Tulane and BU to study environmental science and has had a great freshman year. Significant merit aid and it seems a lot of kids there truly believed in picking their school based on fit (even if the fit is access to snowboarding) so there are a lot of happy students. Spring semester should be called Winter semester though. They’re coming home right when the weather finally turns good
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2022 00:31     Subject: Re:UVM 2026
None of the kids from the best private schools apply there.
So you know all of the students? Impressive. PP is correct, lots of kids seem to be interested and applying. Just as Tulane and Miami were popular in the last few years, UVM, Clemson and CU Boulder are currently "hot". I agree Burlington is a fun town and the campus is beautiful.