Anonymous
Post 04/26/2022 05:01     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
In MD, you will lose it for several months if you do not take the beathalizer. They can still charge you with DUI, but they won't habe as much evidence to convict. In MD, you can prey a jury trial im curcuit court, and depending on the judge, have "probation before jidgement" on the first DUI. Meaning you complete 1-2 requirementspay a fine, and the charges are dismissed.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2022 01:05     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a person who was recently pulled over for speeding, the money grab doesn’t end with DUIs. Anything over 15 over is reckless driving and a misdemeanor in VA. I now only drive with cruise on.


Did something change? It was anything more than 20. Also, anything faster than 80 mph.

It's not a revenue grab. 20 over the speed limit *is* reckless driving.

The other reason it's not a revenue grab is often cops will put the citation just under the reckless driving limit, assuming you're white and compliant.


There’s a huge, vast difference in 20 over the speed limit on a mostly empty stretch of I-81 in rural VA at 7am and 20 over the speed limit in front of a suburban school at 7am. Someone doing 46 mph in front of school is a much greater hazard than someone doing 86 mph on a interstate out in the Shenandoah valley. And a LOT of the DCUM mommies here regularly (daily?) speed in school zones.

If you will not acknowledge that you are being intellectually dishonest.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 16:20     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:As a person who was recently pulled over for speeding, the money grab doesn’t end with DUIs. Anything over 15 over is reckless driving and a misdemeanor in VA. I now only drive with cruise on.


Did something change? It was anything more than 20. Also, anything faster than 80 mph.

It's not a revenue grab. 20 over the speed limit *is* reckless driving.

The other reason it's not a revenue grab is often cops will put the citation just under the reckless driving limit, assuming you're white and compliant.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 16:15     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:You’ll go to jail for booking but are generally released in a fee hours with a court date. Depends on the state on if/when you lose your license. Some states like Va have mandatory guidelines for convictions that include jail time and loss of license. It’s not the courts problem on how you get to/from work, although some states allow for a limited license to only be used for work.



This is pretty much the standard everywhere, unless you’ve caused a crash, injuries/fatalities, or had other aggravating factors/charges.


What is MISSING, and SHOULD also be standard, is a part where once you sober up, a couple cops take you out behind a building and beat you with a stiff rubber hose for about 5 straight minutes until you’ll swear you’re about to die.

That little feature alone would greatly reduce drunk driving recidivism among 90% of DUI arrests.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 14:50     Subject: Re:What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember reading a Wapo article/series about 15 years ago about what happens when you get a DUI. It featured a few seemingly reasonable people who had recently been charged with their first-time DUI and it wen through how their case was resolved. It struck me at the time bc one was the people was similar to me: a petite woman who claimed to just drink wine with dinner. She blew just over the limit on her way home to Arlington and didnt realize she was over the recently lowered standard.

Dont remember exact details of the whole series but my take-aways were: getting a DUI for the first time is the equivalent of spending $10,000 for taxi ride (pre-Uber days) and the people who got a lawyer faced fewer consequences.


Yep. It's a revenue grab, first and foremost. The virtue signaling and lecture from people like PP does not change that fact, nor does it make it okay.


DUI kills innocent people. The priority of money over human life does not change that fact, nor does it make it okay.


You have #ACAB in your Twitter profile, don't you?


I don't have twitter.
I have friends and family members who are current/former cops, so even if I had twitter I definitely wouldn't have that. I'm really sure why you would even surmise that from what I posted.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 14:24     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a person who was recently pulled over for speeding, the money grab doesn’t end with DUIs. Anything over 15 over is reckless driving and a misdemeanor in VA. I now only drive with cruise on.


The reckless-driving thing in VA is the biggest scam ever. Complete cash grab by the state. Everyone admits it, but the state now counts on that revenue and the legal industry loves it because it gives lawyers a constant stream of easy, lucrative cases.


Yeah, my nephew's first ticket was 70 in a 55. The cop wouldn't bump it down because he was under 21. My BIL & SIL had to hire a lawyer to fight it so he didn't lose his license for 6 months. He was in college at the time and got the ticket on 95. He thought the stretch he was on had a 65 speed limit but it did not.

Not sure what his lawyer did, but he ended up paying a small fine and that was it. Not even probation.


Yeah, the fine is not huge, but the lawyer's fees aren't cheap. Same kind of ticket cost my spouse about $800 when all was said and done.


My lawyer to fight a RD charge in VA was $800, I think that was the standard rate back then (this was like 12 years ago). Not bad for probably one hour of work, tops.

I think the ticket was like another $150 or something.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 14:14     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a person who was recently pulled over for speeding, the money grab doesn’t end with DUIs. Anything over 15 over is reckless driving and a misdemeanor in VA. I now only drive with cruise on.


The reckless-driving thing in VA is the biggest scam ever. Complete cash grab by the state. Everyone admits it, but the state now counts on that revenue and the legal industry loves it because it gives lawyers a constant stream of easy, lucrative cases.


Yeah, my nephew's first ticket was 70 in a 55. The cop wouldn't bump it down because he was under 21. My BIL & SIL had to hire a lawyer to fight it so he didn't lose his license for 6 months. He was in college at the time and got the ticket on 95. He thought the stretch he was on had a 65 speed limit but it did not.

Not sure what his lawyer did, but he ended up paying a small fine and that was it. Not even probation.


Yeah, the fine is not huge, but the lawyer's fees aren't cheap. Same kind of ticket cost my spouse about $800 when all was said and done.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 14:08     Subject: Re:What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember reading a Wapo article/series about 15 years ago about what happens when you get a DUI. It featured a few seemingly reasonable people who had recently been charged with their first-time DUI and it wen through how their case was resolved. It struck me at the time bc one was the people was similar to me: a petite woman who claimed to just drink wine with dinner. She blew just over the limit on her way home to Arlington and didnt realize she was over the recently lowered standard.

Dont remember exact details of the whole series but my take-aways were: getting a DUI for the first time is the equivalent of spending $10,000 for taxi ride (pre-Uber days) and the people who got a lawyer faced fewer consequences.


Yep. It's a revenue grab, first and foremost. The virtue signaling and lecture from people like PP does not change that fact, nor does it make it okay.


DUI kills innocent people. The priority of money over human life does not change that fact, nor does it make it okay.


You have #ACAB in your Twitter profile, don't you?
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 13:55     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a person who was recently pulled over for speeding, the money grab doesn’t end with DUIs. Anything over 15 over is reckless driving and a misdemeanor in VA. I now only drive with cruise on.


The reckless-driving thing in VA is the biggest scam ever. Complete cash grab by the state. Everyone admits it, but the state now counts on that revenue and the legal industry loves it because it gives lawyers a constant stream of easy, lucrative cases.


Yeah, my nephew's first ticket was 70 in a 55. The cop wouldn't bump it down because he was under 21. My BIL & SIL had to hire a lawyer to fight it so he didn't lose his license for 6 months. He was in college at the time and got the ticket on 95. He thought the stretch he was on had a 65 speed limit but it did not.

Not sure what his lawyer did, but he ended up paying a small fine and that was it. Not even probation.


I was popped for RD on the Dulles Access Road by a cop who was hiding behind the bridge abutment where they had posted the sign for the lower speed limit. Had not slowed down enough in time and she was right there. Hired a lawyer and never actually physically met him or appeared in court. Lawyer got it knocked down to a normal speeding ticket because the cop was infamous for pulling all sorts of shenanigans to bust people for RD. All my lawyer had to do was mention her name to the judge and he agreed to toss the RD charge. Still ran me about $1,000 when all was said and done, however.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 13:23     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a person who was recently pulled over for speeding, the money grab doesn’t end with DUIs. Anything over 15 over is reckless driving and a misdemeanor in VA. I now only drive with cruise on.


The reckless-driving thing in VA is the biggest scam ever. Complete cash grab by the state. Everyone admits it, but the state now counts on that revenue and the legal industry loves it because it gives lawyers a constant stream of easy, lucrative cases.


Yeah, my nephew's first ticket was 70 in a 55. The cop wouldn't bump it down because he was under 21. My BIL & SIL had to hire a lawyer to fight it so he didn't lose his license for 6 months. He was in college at the time and got the ticket on 95. He thought the stretch he was on had a 65 speed limit but it did not.

Not sure what his lawyer did, but he ended up paying a small fine and that was it. Not even probation.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 11:58     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:As a person who was recently pulled over for speeding, the money grab doesn’t end with DUIs. Anything over 15 over is reckless driving and a misdemeanor in VA. I now only drive with cruise on.


The reckless-driving thing in VA is the biggest scam ever. Complete cash grab by the state. Everyone admits it, but the state now counts on that revenue and the legal industry loves it because it gives lawyers a constant stream of easy, lucrative cases.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 09:59     Subject: Re:What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Happened to me 20 years ago in DC near the Capitol. I was just over the legal limit.

Was taken in a police car to Cap Police HQ. Car was towed.

They let me out a few hours later. Had to pay some money to get the car out of the towing site the next day. then I had to take a class on alcohol that lasted a few months after that.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:25     Subject: What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
As a person who was recently pulled over for speeding, the money grab doesn’t end with DUIs. Anything over 15 over is reckless driving and a misdemeanor in VA. I now only drive with cruise on.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:22     Subject: Re:What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember reading a Wapo article/series about 15 years ago about what happens when you get a DUI. It featured a few seemingly reasonable people who had recently been charged with their first-time DUI and it wen through how their case was resolved. It struck me at the time bc one was the people was similar to me: a petite woman who claimed to just drink wine with dinner. She blew just over the limit on her way home to Arlington and didnt realize she was over the recently lowered standard.

Dont remember exact details of the whole series but my take-aways were: getting a DUI for the first time is the equivalent of spending $10,000 for taxi ride (pre-Uber days) and the people who got a lawyer faced fewer consequences.



No sympathy. If you drink (at all--even "just wine") don't drive. If you go out to dinner and know you will be driving home--don't drink AT ALL. It's that simple.


I agree. In one of my first jobs a man in my office and his family went to Pennsylvania for family Thanksgiving and on the way back a drink driver crossed lanes and hit his car broad side. His wife and three children were killed instantlyand he had permanent brain damage. This was before drunk drivers were charged and he wasn't even scratched. Drunk drivers should be put in jail and the key thrown away and lawyers who represent them are the scum of the legal profession.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:18     Subject: Re:What happens when you are arrested for Dui?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I remember reading a Wapo article/series about 15 years ago about what happens when you get a DUI. It featured a few seemingly reasonable people who had recently been charged with their first-time DUI and it wen through how their case was resolved. It struck me at the time bc one was the people was similar to me: a petite woman who claimed to just drink wine with dinner. She blew just over the limit on her way home to Arlington and didnt realize she was over the recently lowered standard.

Dont remember exact details of the whole series but my take-aways were: getting a DUI for the first time is the equivalent of spending $10,000 for taxi ride (pre-Uber days) and the people who got a lawyer faced fewer consequences.


Yep. It's a revenue grab, first and foremost. The virtue signaling and lecture from people like PP does not change that fact, nor does it make it okay.


DUI kills innocent people. The priority of money over human life does not change that fact, nor does it make it okay.



There are plenty of other things that kill innocent people, but aren't treated nearly as this level of a revenue grab.

No idea what you're trying to say with the second sentence.