Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 00:33     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
I had two jobs for much of my teaching career, plus an extra one in the summer after I fulfilled my summer teaching requirements (i.e., trainings and classes.) It was exhausting, but I simply couldn't make it without that extra income for the first decade or so. Then after I got married (also a teacher) and we had kids, it was used mostly to help pay for private Catholic school for the kids. We managed our money as well as it was possible to do on our pay, and made it to retirement, but finances were pretty tight all my working life...good practice for retirement living...sigh...

Anonymous
Post 04/25/2022 00:20     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Why does anyone care what a teacher or any other professional does in their own time if they're adequately performing their duties?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 23:11     Subject: Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of my kid's swim coaches is a middle school teacher in MCPS. This coach puts in at least 13 hours a week at the pool coaching on top of planning practices. I'm worried about burnout with that on top of teaching!


It’s only for one season.


Season for 4 months per year, every year.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 23:09     Subject: Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:One of my kid's swim coaches is a middle school teacher in MCPS. This coach puts in at least 13 hours a week at the pool coaching on top of planning practices. I'm worried about burnout with that on top of teaching!


It’s only for one season.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 22:06     Subject: Teachers with 2 or more job s
One of my kid's swim coaches is a middle school teacher in MCPS. This coach puts in at least 13 hours a week at the pool coaching on top of planning practices. I'm worried about burnout with that on top of teaching!
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 21:34     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.


Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.





When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.

Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.


Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.

The MCPS payscales are public. Even with a Masters, he’s not making 100k at 29.


Oh yes he is


The pay scales are online. Your brother is lying to you or you are lying to everyone else.
I am a teacher and I actually don’t think the compensation is as awful as what people make it out to be. I have very good benefits, am on the VRS, and have job security. A lot of my friends who wanted “do gooder” jobs or creative jobs have it worse. But 100k at 29 is simply false. The tutor may pull in 120k in hourly billing I guess.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:49     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.


Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.


Where the fk do you think you can live alone in PWC on $57k/year?

My mom got paid semimonthly when she was a teacher and that happened for the whole year, not just while teaching. I'm not sure of the pay schedule now. Let's assume it's the same.

I plugged in $57k in the smart asset calculator for VA.

$57k/year equals $1,771 semimonthly after taxes or $3542/month after taxes.

A 1-bedroom apartment in PWC is running $1800-2200/month.

$3542-1800 = $1742

Utilities - $200
Health insurance - $150
Car insurance - $120
Phone - $60
Internet - $80
Groceries for month - $400
Expenses total $1010

$1742-1010 = $732 left.

And that's not even accounting for them having student loan payments, a car payment, for 401k contributions.

Of course teachers have to have second jobs! Even back then my mom worked at Khol's on the weekends.


NP. I’m not saying it’s ideal, but is it common for 22-25 year olds to live alone in 1BR apartments? I had roommates until I was 29.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:47     Subject: Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:Pay scales have gotten better for starting salaries for teachers however they are slow to grow. I had a second job until I was around 37 (and single).

Also calling BS on the 29 year old making 100k unless they are an admin.

PP specifically claimed her brother is a 4th grade teacher.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:45     Subject: Teachers with 2 or more job s
Pay scales have gotten better for starting salaries for teachers however they are slow to grow. I had a second job until I was around 37 (and single).

Also calling BS on the 29 year old making 100k unless they are an admin.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:45     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.


Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.





When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.

Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.


Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.

That doesn't align with the reality of the MCPS pay scale https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/district/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/salary_schedule_current.pdf
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:31     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.


Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.


Where the fk do you think you can live alone in PWC on $57k/year?

My mom got paid semimonthly when she was a teacher and that happened for the whole year, not just while teaching. I'm not sure of the pay schedule now. Let's assume it's the same.

I plugged in $57k in the smart asset calculator for VA.

$57k/year equals $1,771 semimonthly after taxes or $3542/month after taxes.

A 1-bedroom apartment in PWC is running $1800-2200/month.

$3542-1800 = $1742

Utilities - $200
Health insurance - $150
Car insurance - $120
Phone - $60
Internet - $80
Groceries for month - $400
Expenses total $1010

$1742-1010 = $732 left.

And that's not even accounting for them having student loan payments, a car payment, for 401k contributions.

Of course teachers have to have second jobs! Even back then my mom worked at Khol's on the weekends.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:15     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.


Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.





When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.

Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.


Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.

The MCPS payscales are public. Even with a Masters, he’s not making 100k at 29.


Oh yes he is

Weird thing to lie about since it’s easy to verify.


Knock yourself out.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:12     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.


Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.





When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.

Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.


Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.

The MCPS payscales are public. Even with a Masters, he’s not making 100k at 29.


Oh yes he is

Weird thing to lie about since it’s easy to verify.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:10     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.


Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.





When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.

Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.


Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.

The MCPS payscales are public. Even with a Masters, he’s not making 100k at 29.


Oh yes he is
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2022 20:09     Subject: Re:Teachers with 2 or more job s
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is VERY common for teachers to have second or third jobs. Have you seen the pay scale? They start in the 40s. You try finding a decent 1-bedroom apartment at that salary. Let alone buy a car, pay for insurance, pay for food AND pay off student loans... All for a thankless job where we're attacked at every turn. I used to tell people I was a teacher, and I said it with pride. Now I just make up something.


Puleeezze. The average individual income for PW is $48,000. The average PWCP school teacher is $57,000. Stop it with the slave wages bullshit.





When would a first year teacher ever be paid the "average"? It is a pay scale. You start at the bottom and hopefully move up year by year through the steps.

Sounds like you are a prime example of why we need teachers. That and your nasty potty mouth. What an ugly person you are, PP. No wonder people don't want to be teachers anymore if they have to deal with people like you.


Nope, my brother is a 4th grade teacher and is 29 years old making $100K at with mcps. My child’s tutor at 34 is making $120K in DC.

The MCPS payscales are public. Even with a Masters, he’s not making 100k at 29.