Anonymous
04/22/2022 17:30
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves
The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals
So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355. Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure. Other SAT scores:
George Bush: Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton: Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken: Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020
Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270
Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent
You have listed "exceptional" talent in only one area - Leadership/Politics. My kid will definitely not be as exceptional as those you have listed in this field but her chosen field is CS .. She has academic and extra-curricular credentials to justify that she has the "potential" to be exceptional in her chosen field. I guess that should be acknowledged and accepted in atleast one of the top schools in my opinion.
Is she white? If so - thousands of others are ahead of her. I am sorry. She will do well in life because she works hard. Best.
NP. Thousands ahead of her? A female from the number 1 stem HS in the country at the top of her class in GPA? I don’t think so
Anonymous
04/22/2022 17:28
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
That's tough, should have stayed at the base school
Folks, it's obvious now TJ is a net negative on college admissions, there are too many folks with very similar profiles.
Base schools don’t offer the advanced CS classes that TJ has. Also, Ivy’s are not necessarily best in CS. There is a bunch of top CS schools that love TJ kids.
May I know the top CS schools that love TJ kids?
Anonymous
04/22/2022 17:24
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
That's tough, should have stayed at the base school
Folks, it's obvious now TJ is a net negative on college admissions, there are too many folks with very similar profiles.
Base schools don’t offer the advanced CS classes that TJ has. Also, Ivy’s are not necessarily best in CS. There is a bunch of top CS schools that love TJ kids.
Anonymous
04/22/2022 16:56
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves
The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals
So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355. Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure. Other SAT scores:
George Bush: Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton: Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken: Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020
Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270
Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent
You have listed "exceptional" talent in only one area - Leadership/Politics. My kid will definitely not be as exceptional as those you have listed in this field but her chosen field is CS .. She has academic and extra-curricular credentials to justify that she has the "potential" to be exceptional in her chosen field. I guess that should be acknowledged and accepted in atleast one of the top schools in my opinion.
Is she white? If so - thousands of others are ahead of her. I am sorry. She will do well in life because she works hard. Best.
Asian.
Anonymous
04/22/2022 16:54
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves
The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals
So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355. Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure. Other SAT scores:
George Bush: Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton: Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken: Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020
Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270
Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent
You have listed "exceptional" talent in only one area - Leadership/Politics. My kid will definitely not be as exceptional as those you have listed in this field but her chosen field is CS .. She has academic and extra-curricular credentials to justify that she has the "potential" to be exceptional in her chosen field. I guess that should be acknowledged and accepted in atleast one of the top schools in my opinion.
Is she white? If so - thousands of others are ahead of her. I am sorry. She will do well in life because she works hard. Best.
Anonymous
04/22/2022 16:50
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Folks - if your child is not URM, first gen, staff or faulty at school, recruited athlete, or high level connected/donor - your child”/
chances of acceptance are slim to none. The best thing college counselors at any school in the DMV can do is be honest about that. If your child is a white male of European descent -minus acceptance chances. Reality.
chances of acceptance are slim to none. The best thing college counselors at any school in the DMV can do is be honest about that. If your child is a white male of European descent -minus acceptance chances. Reality.
Anonymous
04/22/2022 16:33
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
I feel for you, my kid stayed at the base-school and had just under your kid's stats and didn't get in anywhere either but I know it burns when you see the profile of kids who did get in and they are lower. I think NoVA kids are in general penalized and quotaed. Also CS is the absolute worst at the moment. I actually have not heard of another kid getting admitted for CS anywhere yet other than my child. I hope yours have some decent fall back options. In the admitted sessions we went to (all schools ranked 18 or lower) - all schools reported that the average SAT was over 1500 and the average UGPA was 3.9 for the incoming CS class.
Anonymous
04/22/2022 16:13
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves
The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals
So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355. Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure. Other SAT scores:
George Bush: Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton: Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken: Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020
Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270
Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent
Is there a link to back up any of this?
Anonymous
04/22/2022 16:11
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves
The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals
So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355. Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure. Other SAT scores:
George Bush: Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton: Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken: Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020
Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270
Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent
You have listed "exceptional" talent in only one area - Leadership/Politics. My kid will definitely not be as exceptional as those you have listed in this field but her chosen field is CS .. She has academic and extra-curricular credentials to justify that she has the "potential" to be exceptional in her chosen field. I guess that should be acknowledged and accepted in atleast one of the top schools in my opinion.
Anonymous
04/22/2022 15:57
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
Its not as much of a lottery as some try to convinces themselves
The ivies are seeking exceptionalism which could include but not necessarily be restricted to GPA and have distinguished themselves their multi-centuries consistent abilities to identify and select exceptional individuals
So the question is who should Harvard take, your kid who scored a 1580 or Al Gore who scored 1355. Your kid could certainly be more talented with better future success than Al Gore, but obviously Gore was a very successful admit by any measure. Other SAT scores:
George Bush: Yale (Governor, President + Veteran) - 1200
John Kerry: Yale (Senator, Secretary of State, etc. + US Navy veteran awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star with valor) - 1190
Bill Clinton: Georgetown, not ivy but elite (Governor, President) - 1030
Al Franken: Harvard (Comedian, Senator) - 1020
Also, David Hogg was admitted to Harvard with a 1270
Not necessarily a fan of any of the above but objectively they seem to know how to identify and "pick" exceptional talent
Anonymous
04/22/2022 15:07
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
That's tough, should have stayed at the base school
Folks, it's obvious now TJ is a net negative on college admissions, there are too many folks with very similar profiles.
Anonymous
04/22/2022 15:05
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
Hi, Rice has a lot of TJ kids.
Anonymous
04/22/2022 15:01
Subject: Re:Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
DD with GPA 4.52 (Junior year), 1580 SAT, all 5s in all her 8 APs from TJ with excellent ECs for CS, volunteering/community service and an internship did not get into any of the Ivies and waitlisted at CMU. Major - CS. Obviously we are disappointed. College admissions seems like a lottery.
Anonymous
04/22/2022 09:32
Subject: Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
Anonymous wrote:We are having a hard time putting our list together. So wanted to find out where TJ kids with 4.3 - 4.4 GPA are likely to be accepted. Our DC is probably end up in that range with after her senior year with very high SAT score.
From TJ, you are not getting into the Ivy+ schools with that GPA unless you are aiming for something non-tech AND you have outstanding ECs that are one of a kind. Might have a shot if you are female or URM.
Share what your kid wants to study as well as profile (URM, male/female, GPA, number of APs, classes planned for senior year, intended course of study, ECs and leadership roles, etc.). Without that input, it's hard to provide any advice.
Anonymous
04/21/2022 23:44
Subject: Which schools accepted your 4.3 - 4.4 TJ kid?
PP is wrong. That GPA wouldn’t rule out Ivies. It is just one piece of the puzzle. And if your kid is exhausted from writing 5000000 essays for Ivey and similar apps and doesn’t put time and attention into the likelies, they may land at a safety. Pick 2 or 3 Ivies that are the best fit and build out the list from there. Add a couple top non Ivies. Then bulk up on match and smart safeties.