Anonymous wrote:All who are pretending to have done so are fibbers.
Anonymous wrote:Stop being mosey and butting into other people’s private conversations, you won’t have any friends left if you become the speech police. This is America they can diss kids if they want, you can also leave if you don’t want to hear it. Quit your whining
Anonymous wrote:Stop being mosey and butting into other people’s private conversations, you won’t have any friends left if you become the speech police. This is America they can diss kids if they want, you can also leave if you don’t want to hear it. Quit your whining
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would never do this with friends.
I have one friend who does talk about kids with very poor behavior. She tries to avoid the bad kids.
Yeah, this isn't better. My SIL l-- and unfortunately now my (just now adult) nieces-- have made this the family pastime. I guess it didn't strike me as quite so repellant and unflattering (to my SIL) when I was younger and before I had kids (she's been my SIL for 25 years-- my kid is only 10). But it is really gross and reeks of insecurity. She gossips and complains about other people's parenting and the kids themselves, using really judgmental language. Part of it is almost affectionate at times, when she talks about her (blood) nieces and nephews. Like let me tell you about this appalling behavior and how indulgent and bad my brother and his wife are (applies to two different brothers), but with a tiny bit of indirect "the kid's got spunk" in there. So I used to think it was sort of a cultural (Midwest white) or family cultural thing. But it's... not. She's severely, severely judgmental. And I KNOW she talks sh!t about my own kid (also her niece!) and my parenting behind my back. If I didn't, it wouldn't be hard to guess! I've never heard of a single kid or parent escaping unscathed. There's always something to pick on.
Rather than the occasional hint of affection demonstrating that this is just her way of intentionally not letting anyone get too big for their britches (as if she doesn't really mean it, and she sure does love them!), I think it demonstrates that she does care about the kids, of course, on some level-- but it's compulsive with her. She's basically-- sadly-- pretty miserable. And she will sometimes admit to her own faults as a parent, too. She's actually a decent and even good mom in most respects and her kids are great, but she's filled with shame and cannot stop putting others down.
Oh, and she's a teacher! Naturally.
I don't have to stand for her behavior, though, and I won't. I walk away and I avoid allowing my kid to listen to it.
Btw! It's not as if I never ever comment on others' parenting or that I'm perfectly nonjudgmental. But not about CHILDREN themselves, or only rarely, and not without considering what they're going through. And frankly, not even about parents except if I see them being cruel or neglectful. And certainly not to more than DH or one friend in confidence. Not as a social bonding tool, not as a semi-public shaming event or for entertainment. Gross.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You should have kept your mouth shut and walked away. What other people talk about is absolutely none of your business. Stop being nose your
OP was with them, not eavesdropping. Also, do you think that the behavior that OP describes is acceptable?
Anonymous wrote:You should have kept your mouth shut and walked away. What other people talk about is absolutely none of your business. Stop being nose your
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would never do this with friends.
I have one friend who does talk about kids with very poor behavior. She tries to avoid the bad kids.
Yeah, this isn't better. My SIL l-- and unfortunately now my (just now adult) nieces-- have made this the family pastime. I guess it didn't strike me as quite so repellant and unflattering (to my SIL) when I was younger and before I had kids (she's been my SIL for 25 years-- my kid is only 10). But it is really gross and reeks of insecurity. She gossips and complains about other people's parenting and the kids themselves, using really judgmental language. Part of it is almost affectionate at times, when she talks about her (blood) nieces and nephews. Like let me tell you about this appalling behavior and how indulgent and bad my brother and his wife are (applies to two different brothers), but with a tiny bit of indirect "the kid's got spunk" in there. So I used to think it was sort of a cultural (Midwest white) or family cultural thing. But it's... not. She's severely, severely judgmental. And I KNOW she talks sh!t about my own kid (also her niece!) and my parenting behind my back. If I didn't, it wouldn't be hard to guess! I've never heard of a single kid or parent escaping unscathed. There's always something to pick on.
Rather than the occasional hint of affection demonstrating that this is just her way of intentionally not letting anyone get too big for their britches (as if she doesn't really mean it, and she sure does love them!), I think it demonstrates that she does care about the kids, of course, on some level-- but it's compulsive with her. She's basically-- sadly-- pretty miserable. And she will sometimes admit to her own faults as a parent, too. She's actually a decent and even good mom in most respects and her kids are great, but she's filled with shame and cannot stop putting others down.
Oh, and she's a teacher! Naturally.
I don't have to stand for her behavior, though, and I won't. I walk away and I avoid allowing my kid to listen to it.