Anonymous
04/14/2022 19:30
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
How does one decide to become a landlord being so thoroughly ignorant of basic landlord/tenant law?
Anonymous
04/14/2022 19:21
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What you read in the previous thread is true.
In D.C., once the lease period ends, the lease automatically goes month-to-month. All the other parts of the lease remain the same (including the rent amount, unless you give the tenant proper written notice of a rent increase).
If you really don't like them cash for keys may be in your future.
OP here. Thank you. Unfortunately, this is what I thought was going to be the case. We'll figure something out, I'm sure. And it's definitely a good lesson for me going forward...
Your lease probably stipulates something like "30 days notice for any changes". Use that 30 days notice.
Notice that they can go month to month?
Anonymous
04/14/2022 19:19
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What you read in the previous thread is true.
In D.C., once the lease period ends, the lease automatically goes month-to-month. All the other parts of the lease remain the same (including the rent amount, unless you give the tenant proper written notice of a rent increase).
If you really don't like them cash for keys may be in your future.
OP here. Thank you. Unfortunately, this is what I thought was going to be the case. We'll figure something out, I'm sure. And it's definitely a good lesson for me going forward...
Your lease probably stipulates something like "30 days notice for any changes". Use that 30 days notice.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 19:16
Subject: Re:Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:PP again. My lease (I am the landlord, not in DC) specifically states that the tenant must move out at the end of the lease term; it does not become month-to-month. Have your next lease written to reflect this.
Throwing some BS in a lease doesn't change the law.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 19:08
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
In DC it impossible to get rid of a tenant, in normal places like Virginia you can kick then out with 30 day notice
Anonymous
04/14/2022 19:02
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Don't these laws intimidate would-be landlords and increase the number of vacant spaces that are just sitting around in DC, when we have shortage of units?
Or maybe they lead people to sell increasing the supply of housing to purchase.
But that won't serve the people who can only afford monthly rent, PP. Or the people who need short-term housing because they know they're going to move in a few years, perhaps internationally - and in DC, that's a lot of people.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 18:58
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What you read in the previous thread is true.
In D.C., once the lease period ends, the lease automatically goes month-to-month. All the other parts of the lease remain the same (including the rent amount, unless you give the tenant proper written notice of a rent increase).
If you really don't like them cash for keys may be in your future.
OP here. Thank you. Unfortunately, this is what I thought was going to be the case. We'll figure something out, I'm sure. And it's definitely a good lesson for me going forward...
So you are in DC? That makes a difference. That’s the only place I have ever heard of where this is the case. If your property is outside of DC, give notice as you stated and start looking for new tenants.
Yes, apologize that I didn't make that more clear. We are in DC. This may end up being a non-issue ... I have no idea if they are even intending to stay at the end of the lease. I was just wondering what our options may be.
I agree with you that DC is the only place where I know this "rule" to be true. I had never heard of it before. I really don't understand how landlords can have virtually zero say in lease renewal, but it is what it is, I guess.
I am the pp you quoted, so my next post is probably pointless. I was hoping you were outside of DC proper.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 18:55
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What you read in the previous thread is true.
In D.C., once the lease period ends, the lease automatically goes month-to-month. All the other parts of the lease remain the same (including the rent amount, unless you give the tenant proper written notice of a rent increase).
If you really don't like them cash for keys may be in your future.
OP here. Thank you. Unfortunately, this is what I thought was going to be the case. We'll figure something out, I'm sure. And it's definitely a good lesson for me going forward...
So you are in DC? That makes a difference. That’s the only place I have ever heard of where this is the case. If your property is outside of DC, give notice as you stated and start looking for new tenants.
Yes, apologize that I didn't make that more clear. We are in DC. This may end up being a non-issue ... I have no idea if they are even intending to stay at the end of the lease. I was just wondering what our options may be.
I agree with you that DC is the only place where I know this "rule" to be true. I had never heard of it before. I really don't understand how landlords can have virtually zero say in lease renewal, but it is what it is, I guess.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 18:55
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would say we intend to move into the house and don’t.
90 days notice is required for that, and cannot be rented for a 12-month period beginning on the date the housing provider recovered possession of the rental unit. If they do not actually move in the tenant can seek damages.
Couldn’t OP just notify them that rent is going up by 50% or something? They’re unlikely to stay if rent is so much higher than market rate.
The rent increase must be a "reasonable amount".
How much is reasonable????
It is not defined. I would say 3-5% personally. Rent increases can also be seen as retaliatory if there has been an issue between the LL&T, and unreasonable rent increases could open the LL up to penalties and damages.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 18:54
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would say we intend to move into the house and don’t.
90 days notice is required for that, and cannot be rented for a 12-month period beginning on the date the housing provider recovered possession of the rental unit. If they do not actually move in the tenant can seek damages.
Couldn’t OP just notify them that rent is going up by 50% or something? They’re unlikely to stay if rent is so much higher than market rate.
The rent increase must be a "reasonable amount".
How much is reasonable????
I think it is CPI+2% with a cap at 10%. I don't understand why anyone is a landlord in DC
Anonymous
04/14/2022 18:53
Subject: Re:Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:PP again. My lease (I am the landlord, not in DC) specifically states that the tenant must move out at the end of the lease term; it does not become month-to-month. Have your next lease written to reflect this.
I am 18:50.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 18:53
Subject: Re:Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
PP again. My lease (I am the landlord, not in DC) specifically states that the tenant must move out at the end of the lease term; it does not become month-to-month. Have your next lease written to reflect this.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 18:51
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would say we intend to move into the house and don’t.
90 days notice is required for that, and cannot be rented for a 12-month period beginning on the date the housing provider recovered possession of the rental unit. If they do not actually move in the tenant can seek damages.
Couldn’t OP just notify them that rent is going up by 50% or something? They’re unlikely to stay if rent is so much higher than market rate.
The rent increase must be a "reasonable amount".
How much is reasonable????
Anonymous
04/14/2022 18:50
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What you read in the previous thread is true.
In D.C., once the lease period ends, the lease automatically goes month-to-month. All the other parts of the lease remain the same (including the rent amount, unless you give the tenant proper written notice of a rent increase).
If you really don't like them cash for keys may be in your future.
OP here. Thank you. Unfortunately, this is what I thought was going to be the case. We'll figure something out, I'm sure. And it's definitely a good lesson for me going forward...
So you are in DC? That makes a difference. That’s the only place I have ever heard of where this is the case. If your property is outside of DC, give notice as you stated and start looking for new tenants.
Anonymous
04/14/2022 18:48
Subject: Possible for landlord to not renew at end of lease?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would say we intend to move into the house and don’t.
90 days notice is required for that, and cannot be rented for a 12-month period beginning on the date the housing provider recovered possession of the rental unit. If they do not actually move in the tenant can seek damages.
Couldn’t OP just notify them that rent is going up by 50% or something? They’re unlikely to stay if rent is so much higher than market rate.
The rent increase must be a "reasonable amount".