Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 16:42     Subject: Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
The right answer is none. No local private *gets anyone in*. The kids get themselves in, and would have had approximately the same shot coming from a different school.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 16:39     Subject: Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Dude. It’s not the destination. It’s the journey.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 16:31     Subject: Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
OP, public schools are the best for college admissions. Move to a W pyramid. If your children distinguishes themselves, top 20s will follows. Worked for us. Used the money we saved on private school to pay for college.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 15:52     Subject: Re:Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have high school kids at two Big3 schools and have spent way too much time thinking about this.
The Ivy admits are 90% legacy or athletes or URMs or generally 2 of the 3. Actually you can probably say 95%.
I.e. if you're not 2 of the 3 you're not getting into an Ivy from a Big3. Period.
Might as well cross it off. Your odds are attending an Ivy are higher from a public.

Now the rest of the top 20 college spots go in part to the top academic achievers. Some also go to legacy/athletes/URM.
but many if not most are available to the top "smart kids" (i.e the top 10-20% of the class academically).

The next problem is, how to have one of the "smart kids". It's easier said than done. The work is hard, grade deflation is real and most
of the kids at the school are smart. It's not easy to be at the top of the class.



If it easier for URM to be admitted than for non-URM, soon enough there wouldn’t be URM anymore, right? This reasoning doesn’t sound right.


URM is a bit of a misnomer. It means certain preferred groups, regardless of whether the groups are actually under represented. Proponents of preferential admissions for URMs will never say "okay, the problem is solved, so we now can have race blind admissions."

Well just think of the hundreds of years race has mattered in admissions and URMS couldn’t even be considered. Now because you think there has been a push for URM’s, you want everything to be race blind? Interesting.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 15:52     Subject: Re:Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:I have high school kids at two Big3 schools and have spent way too much time thinking about this.
The Ivy admits are 90% legacy or athletes or URMs or generally 2 of the 3. Actually you can probably say 95%.
I.e. if you're not 2 of the 3 you're not getting into an Ivy from a Big3. Period.
Might as well cross it off. Your odds are attending an Ivy are higher from a public.

Now the rest of the top 20 college spots go in part to the top academic achievers. Some also go to legacy/athletes/URM.
but many if not most are available to the top "smart kids" (i.e the top 10-20% of the class academically).

The next problem is, how to have one of the "smart kids". It's easier said than done. The work is hard, grade deflation is real and most
of the kids at the school are smart. It's not easy to be at the top of the class.



Nope. My white, non-legacy, non-athlete DD from GDS got into multiple Ivy League schools.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 15:30     Subject: Re:Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have high school kids at two Big3 schools and have spent way too much time thinking about this.
The Ivy admits are 90% legacy or athletes or URMs or generally 2 of the 3. Actually you can probably say 95%.
I.e. if you're not 2 of the 3 you're not getting into an Ivy from a Big3. Period.
Might as well cross it off. Your odds are attending an Ivy are higher from a public.

Now the rest of the top 20 college spots go in part to the top academic achievers. Some also go to legacy/athletes/URM.
but many if not most are available to the top "smart kids" (i.e the top 10-20% of the class academically).

The next problem is, how to have one of the "smart kids". It's easier said than done. The work is hard, grade deflation is real and most
of the kids at the school are smart. It's not easy to be at the top of the class.



If it easier for URM to be admitted than for non-URM, soon enough there wouldn’t be URM anymore, right? This reasoning doesn’t sound right.


URM is a bit of a misnomer. It means certain preferred groups, regardless of whether the groups are actually under represented. Proponents of preferential admissions for URMs will never say "okay, the problem is solved, so we now can have race blind admissions."
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 15:06     Subject: Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Has anyone done a breakout before deciding where to send their child?


This isn't the 90s. Private schools are not "getting your kids into the T20". What are you, and your kid brining to the table. That is all that matters.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 15:02     Subject: Re:Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:I have high school kids at two Big3 schools and have spent way too much time thinking about this.
The Ivy admits are 90% legacy or athletes or URMs or generally 2 of the 3. Actually you can probably say 95%.
I.e. if you're not 2 of the 3 you're not getting into an Ivy from a Big3. Period.
Might as well cross it off. Your odds are attending an Ivy are higher from a public.

Now the rest of the top 20 college spots go in part to the top academic achievers. Some also go to legacy/athletes/URM.
but many if not most are available to the top "smart kids" (i.e the top 10-20% of the class academically).

The next problem is, how to have one of the "smart kids". It's easier said than done. The work is hard, grade deflation is real and most
of the kids at the school are smart. It's not easy to be at the top of the class.



If it easier for URM to be admitted than for non-URM, soon enough there wouldn’t be URM anymore, right? This reasoning doesn’t sound right.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 14:42     Subject: Re:Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
A better question is which private school encourages students to flourish and develop enough self-confidence that they no longer feel the need to get into top 20 schools. Instead, they feel free to choose the schools that best fit them and will help them obtain their goals.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 13:32     Subject: Re:Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have high school kids at two Big3 schools and have spent way too much time thinking about this.
The Ivy admits are 90% legacy or athletes or URMs or generally 2 of the 3. Actually you can probably say 95%.
I.e. if you're not 2 of the 3 you're not getting into an Ivy from a Big3. Period.
Might as well cross it off. Your odds are attending an Ivy are higher from a public.
....


I hope everyone understands this -- that if you are not an athlete, URM, or a legacy (and I doubt the legacy part) -- you are not going to an Ivy League college. Being a great student will not get you in. An anecdote: just a few years ago a colleague's son was a top student at St. Albans and a charming kid. The best he did was to make the waitlist at Columbia.


anecdote, just a few years ago, a smart kid with no hooks at STA/NCS/GDS/Sidwell got into an Ivy League school.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 13:30     Subject: Re:Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have high school kids at two Big3 schools and have spent way too much time thinking about this.
The Ivy admits are 90% legacy or athletes or URMs or generally 2 of the 3. Actually you can probably say 95%.
I.e. if you're not 2 of the 3 you're not getting into an Ivy from a Big3. Period.
Might as well cross it off. Your odds are attending an Ivy are higher from a public.

Now the rest of the top 20 college spots go in part to the top academic achievers. Some also go to legacy/athletes/URM.
but many if not most are available to the top "smart kids" (i.e the top 10-20% of the class academically).

The next problem is, how to have one of the "smart kids". It's easier said than done. The work is hard, grade deflation is real and most
of the kids at the school are smart. It's not easy to be at the top of the class.



This 1000%


1000% wrong. if 20 kids get in 19 are legacy/recruited athlete/URM? not at all.

Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 13:28     Subject: Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any school where all of the parents can afford the top 20. Cross off any affordable private or catholic school because those schools will have a portion of the student body who can't afford top 20.


You’re stuck in the 80s grandma. All top universities have need based FA.


In the 80s a kid could pay their own way waiting table over the summer. Need based aid does nothing for middles families in this area unless they are making big sacrifices to save everything towards college. And before you start screaming that this doesn't apply to middle class families, a GS 12 or 13 married to a teacher is middle class, makes too much for need based aid, and aren't going to be able to save 400k per kid for college (especially not if they are paying for private school)
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 12:32     Subject: Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Several years ago when my cousins attended Wilson High, they and their friends got into "top" colleges, a few into Ivies. National Honor society, AP classes, extracurriculars, sports (crew, jv soccer, football but not recruited athletes).
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 12:26     Subject: Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:This only covers three colleges, matriculation not acceptance, but gives you a good idea:

https://polarislist.com/


Wow GDS, NCS, and STA are impressive even more so for the later two since they have much smaller class sizes!
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2022 12:14     Subject: Re:Which private school gets the most kids into top 20 colleges?
Anonymous wrote:^Actually, the problem is being upper middle class. Making $200K a year disqualifies you from FA, but paying $80K a year for Ivies that don't give merit aid is tough for UMC.


Actually, you should look at the Ivy calculators. You would get some aid at least at HYP on a $200k salary.