Anonymous
Post 03/31/2022 13:28     Subject: The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
We moved from private to public for 19-20 school year. I have regretted it ever since. I'm sure part of it has to do with our "ex" private school having had in-person from beginning of school year 20-21.
But mainly I regret believing the hype about differentiation and trusting FCPS to actually teach my kids. Our very low SES school only has one goal...get slow learners and English learners up to speed. They don't give a sh*t about kids that are above average and bored to tears at the slow pace. The classes only go as fast as the weakest link. My oldest changed her personality to stay below the radar and fit in. I really miss that brave, self-confident, extroverted, friendly and 1st to volunteer for any public speaking little girl. Her replacement persona is super shy, wants no attention drawn to her and thinks she's ugly.
Anonymous
Post 03/31/2022 12:48     Subject: Re:The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
"I see your data and it doesn't confirm my opinion based on person anecdotes, so I choose not to believe it."

Oh, the irony of people using anecdotes to dispute a large survey in a forum about education.
Anonymous
Post 03/31/2022 11:55     Subject: Re:The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
I'm unhappy that I have to take my kids to tutoring to get a similar level of education that I received back home.

Anonymous
Post 03/31/2022 10:16     Subject: The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I did not read the article, but you could say that the people that are unhappy with public school and are able to afford private, do it…. It’s a self selection problem. My daughter started in public and we were very unhappy with the level of education she was receiving that we moved to private… all my kids are in private school now and I don’t like what public school (in our area) does with teaching our kids.


Look at where the politicians enroll their kids.


They talk so much about how important public school is for the common good and the future of the country and how great the teachers are but send their own precious darlings to private or (sometimes) the highly rated publics, and often then only for part of the child’s k-12 education.
Anonymous
Post 03/31/2022 10:07     Subject: The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I did not read the article, but you could say that the people that are unhappy with public school and are able to afford private, do it…. It’s a self selection problem. My daughter started in public and we were very unhappy with the level of education she was receiving that we moved to private… all my kids are in private school now and I don’t like what public school (in our area) does with teaching our kids.



The percentage of parents enrolling in private schools is 10-11% in the US. A good portion of those are parochial and are sought out because of a desire to align with religious values. So, yes, there's some self-selection, but it's a minority. And once you're in private school it often becomes something psychologically you are compelled to think---why am I paying for this? Oh, it must be because the public schools are too bad for Larla. So your perspective towards public schools--which you have less and less direct connection with and knowledge of--gets worse because you have to justify why you are not using them.
(I went to "good" private schools as a kid and happily send my kids to public--and they are thriving there).


Anonymous
Post 03/30/2022 19:42     Subject: Re:The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw that article but I don't agree with it. I am still mad about schools in FCPS offering no in person option for one year. I did vote for McA but I am still mad about it. I am definitely not voting for any school board incumbents in 2023.


The piece doesn’t say you don’t exist, just that you are in the minority. Sorry if that’s hard for you to accept.


Popped on to say exactly this. Ty
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2022 18:12     Subject: The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
Anonymous wrote:I did not read the article, but you could say that the people that are unhappy with public school and are able to afford private, do it…. It’s a self selection problem. My daughter started in public and we were very unhappy with the level of education she was receiving that we moved to private… all my kids are in private school now and I don’t like what public school (in our area) does with teaching our kids.


Look at where the politicians enroll their kids.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2022 18:11     Subject: The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Read for the details, but the gist is that well over three fourths of parents are satisfied with their child's public school and the satisfaction rates have been going up. Disgruntled people are a clear minority and the majority of those are non-parents. Even in TX, satisfaction rates are up at 68%.

In Virginia, Youngkin's victory which was predicated on dissatisfaction with schools was actually precipitated by a 59% increase in turnout in those over 75 vs. a 9% increase in the 18-74 age group, which includes parents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/19/opinion/parents-schools.html


The majority of Americans are stupid and ignorant, the average reading level is below 6th grade. Over 1/3 of students have no business graduating.

For most of dcum schools are fine because we have wealth to afford good districts, private or can competently play the charter game.

Schools are failing low income and black and brown kids. Everyone should have a problem with that and should be demanding schools to do better.


No, society is scapegoating schools for its ills. Schools see children for 35 hours out of 168 per week and are woefully understaffed compared to what they're asked to do. Teachers are underpaid and they can't fix poverty, single parenthood, overwhelmed parents with more children than they can handle, lack of parental supervision, lack of discipline, gangs, crime, trauma... Heck, they can't even get cell phones and video games out of kids' hands while they're in school. But keep demanding. Won't happen.


Well, it's a lot easier for them to blame the teachers and the kids than to actually advocate for real change re: entrenched patriarchy, income inequality, structural racism, etc. They probably don't want any of those things to change anyway hence the scapegoating of teachers and kids.


None of the things you mention cause an unmarried woman to have multiple children that she can’t invest time and money in. Irresponsible parenting can’t be cured by the government.


But it can be supported
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2022 07:57     Subject: The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Read for the details, but the gist is that well over three fourths of parents are satisfied with their child's public school and the satisfaction rates have been going up. Disgruntled people are a clear minority and the majority of those are non-parents. Even in TX, satisfaction rates are up at 68%.

In Virginia, Youngkin's victory which was predicated on dissatisfaction with schools was actually precipitated by a 59% increase in turnout in those over 75 vs. a 9% increase in the 18-74 age group, which includes parents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/19/opinion/parents-schools.html


The majority of Americans are stupid and ignorant, the average reading level is below 6th grade. Over 1/3 of students have no business graduating.

For most of dcum schools are fine because we have wealth to afford good districts, private or can competently play the charter game.

Schools are failing low income and black and brown kids. Everyone should have a problem with that and should be demanding schools to do better.


No, society is scapegoating schools for its ills. Schools see children for 35 hours out of 168 per week and are woefully understaffed compared to what they're asked to do. Teachers are underpaid and they can't fix poverty, single parenthood, overwhelmed parents with more children than they can handle, lack of parental supervision, lack of discipline, gangs, crime, trauma... Heck, they can't even get cell phones and video games out of kids' hands while they're in school. But keep demanding. Won't happen.


Well, it's a lot easier for them to blame the teachers and the kids than to actually advocate for real change re: entrenched patriarchy, income inequality, structural racism, etc. They probably don't want any of those things to change anyway hence the scapegoating of teachers and kids.


None of the things you mention cause an unmarried woman to have multiple children that she can’t invest time and money in. Irresponsible parenting can’t be cured by the government.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2022 21:00     Subject: The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
I did not read the article, but you could say that the people that are unhappy with public school and are able to afford private, do it…. It’s a self selection problem. My daughter started in public and we were very unhappy with the level of education she was receiving that we moved to private… all my kids are in private school now and I don’t like what public school (in our area) does with teaching our kids.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2022 18:06     Subject: The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Read for the details, but the gist is that well over three fourths of parents are satisfied with their child's public school and the satisfaction rates have been going up. Disgruntled people are a clear minority and the majority of those are non-parents. Even in TX, satisfaction rates are up at 68%.

In Virginia, Youngkin's victory which was predicated on dissatisfaction with schools was actually precipitated by a 59% increase in turnout in those over 75 vs. a 9% increase in the 18-74 age group, which includes parents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/19/opinion/parents-schools.html


The majority of Americans are stupid and ignorant, the average reading level is below 6th grade. Over 1/3 of students have no business graduating.

For most of dcum schools are fine because we have wealth to afford good districts, private or can competently play the charter game.

Schools are failing low income and black and brown kids. Everyone should have a problem with that and should be demanding schools to do better.


No, society is scapegoating schools for its ills. Schools see children for 35 hours out of 168 per week and are woefully understaffed compared to what they're asked to do. Teachers are underpaid and they can't fix poverty, single parenthood, overwhelmed parents with more children than they can handle, lack of parental supervision, lack of discipline, gangs, crime, trauma... Heck, they can't even get cell phones and video games out of kids' hands while they're in school. But keep demanding. Won't happen.


Agree. As a public school product, I am so tired of hearing how schools are failing the same select segment over and over again.
Anonymous
Post 03/27/2022 18:01     Subject: The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Read for the details, but the gist is that well over three fourths of parents are satisfied with their child's public school and the satisfaction rates have been going up. Disgruntled people are a clear minority and the majority of those are non-parents. Even in TX, satisfaction rates are up at 68%.

In Virginia, Youngkin's victory which was predicated on dissatisfaction with schools was actually precipitated by a 59% increase in turnout in those over 75 vs. a 9% increase in the 18-74 age group, which includes parents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/19/opinion/parents-schools.html


The majority of Americans are stupid and ignorant, the average reading level is below 6th grade. Over 1/3 of students have no business graduating.

For most of dcum schools are fine because we have wealth to afford good districts, private or can competently play the charter game.

Schools are failing low income and black and brown kids. Everyone should have a problem with that and should be demanding schools to do better.


No, society is scapegoating schools for its ills. Schools see children for 35 hours out of 168 per week and are woefully understaffed compared to what they're asked to do. Teachers are underpaid and they can't fix poverty, single parenthood, overwhelmed parents with more children than they can handle, lack of parental supervision, lack of discipline, gangs, crime, trauma... Heck, they can't even get cell phones and video games out of kids' hands while they're in school. But keep demanding. Won't happen.


Well, it's a lot easier for them to blame the teachers and the kids than to actually advocate for real change re: entrenched patriarchy, income inequality, structural racism, etc. They probably don't want any of those things to change anyway hence the scapegoating of teachers and kids.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2022 21:29     Subject: Re:The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
There’s such a big exodus from public school by families that can afford it… I definitely think there is a lot of unhappiness. Pandemic learning got parents intimately involved with and aware of curriculum issues
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2022 07:12     Subject: Re:The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
Anonymous wrote:I saw that article but I don't agree with it. I am still mad about schools in FCPS offering no in person option for one year. I did vote for McA but I am still mad about it. I am definitely not voting for any school board incumbents in 2023.


The piece doesn’t say you don’t exist, just that you are in the minority. Sorry if that’s hard for you to accept.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2022 06:49     Subject: Re:The people unhappy with public schools often don't have children in them
I'm not sure all of these data points are connected.

For example, OP's title accurately describes me: after all, if I were satisfied with public schools my kid wouldn't be in private. But I vote D, I don't think the covid closures were really within the Board's control, and because there wasn't much they could do I also don't think social justice issues were a distraction or evidence they place equity above education. I think the problems with public school are bigger than the SB.

I think the NYT is largely trash, but I have seen elsewhere the stat that Youngkin's victory was driven by deep-red R turnout and not angry D parents voting R. I believe it, because Ds ran a terrible campaign with a candidate lefty types weren't excited about.