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Anonymous wrote:At most elite unis where there is a language requirement for graduation, there will be a placement test. So 4 years of language will presumably help your DC over just 3 years and a one year pause between their last class and the placement test.

Um, most universities have a language requirement/placement test, regardless of "elite" status.

USC doesn’t have a language requirement.

Yes it does.

https://dornsife.usc.edu/languages/foreign-language-requirement/#:~:text=%20Fulfilling%20the%20Foreign%20Language%20Requirement%20%201,examination%20%28AP%20or%20International%20Baccalaureate%20Higher...%20More%20

That’s the liberal arts college. Marshall School of Business and Engineering Schools do not.
Most highly ranked engineering schools don’t have language requirement.
Many business schools don’t, even if the liberal arts college at the same university does
Also case western, MIT, Amherst, Rice, also don’t

Interesting.. I never understood why language was a requirement in college, given that the vast majority of kids graduating out of college in the US work in the US and pretty much everywhere I've gone over the course of my life in the US - for business or pleasure - I've never had the need to speak another language. of course, for those that want to learn a second language, for whatever reason, classes should be available.

Before someone lectures me on the "joys of multi-lingualism", please save your breath. I'm fluent in 4 languages, and have lived on 3 continents.

Dc is on Latin 4 DE, which will count as college Latin 201 and 202.

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't you NOT take the placement test and take 101, 102 for the easy A?

+ 1. One of my son's friends, got exempted from a language and math classes based on AP credit, and enrolled in higher level classes since lang. and math were requirements. Struggled a bit in those classes. His advice to my kids was to not do that. Unless you get full credit for a course and it waives all requirements for a particular subject, don't do it. Unless of course, you are going to school to major in that subject.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't you NOT take the placement test and take 101, 102 for the easy A?

Well my kid actually wants to use his time in college to learn and would be bored silly in a class where he already knew the material so there’s that. Plus I’m not paying tuition so to buy a meaningless A for him. But I guess if you value the diploma but not the education you could do that.

Seriously. Started foreign language in middle school. Took AP in 11th and something past that in 12th. My first class in college was a 300 level literature course conducted in the language. I would have been miserable in a course where they were learning basic grammar rules.

For people who think being educated is checking off boxes on a list of requirements, I guess they don't get how awesome and valuable becoming fluent in a second language is?

If you take an AP in two languages before college are you done? Do you still have to take a language? What do you need to do to fill the requirement so you dont have to take a language in college?

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DS took 4 years spanish in high school and got a 5 on the AP exam and that placed in basically in 201 --- second year Spanish.


Was it hard or easy for him?


PP here - it was easy for him. But it moved quickly so I don't think he could have realistically skipped it....

Thank you!!

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DS took 4 years spanish in high school and got a 5 on the AP exam and that placed in basically in 201 --- second year Spanish.


Was it hard or easy for him?


PP here - it was easy for him. But it moved quickly so I don't think he could have realistically skipped it....

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't you NOT take the placement test and take 101, 102 for the easy A?

Because
1) some schools require you to get through the second year of language, so this approach means 4 semesters of language
2) it's not about getting an A but learning
3) placing out of language classes means you can take other classes that you are interested in and may help achieve your major, double major, minor etc requirements.

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't you NOT take the placement test and take 101, 102 for the easy A?

My kid was signed up for advanced beginner spanish her freshman year and the day before class started, she was sent an email to take the placement test. She did and placed two levels higher LOL. I told her she should have bombed it on purpose, but in the end it worked out. Was a tough class, only got a B, but met the school's requirement in one semester rather than a year or two.

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Anonymous wrote:At most elite unis where there is a language requirement for graduation, there will be a placement test. So 4 years of language will presumably help your DC over just 3 years and a one year pause between their last class and the placement test.

Um, most universities have a language requirement/placement test, regardless of "elite" status.

USC doesn’t have a language requirement.

Yes it does.

https://dornsife.usc.edu/languages/foreign-language-requirement/#:~:text=%20Fulfilling%20the%20Foreign%20Language%20Requirement%20%201,examination%20%28AP%20or%20International%20Baccalaureate%20Higher...%20More%20

That’s the liberal arts college. Marshall School of Business and Engineering Schools do not.
Most highly ranked engineering schools don’t have language requirement.
Many business schools don’t, even if the liberal arts college at the same university does
Also case western, MIT, Amherst, Rice, also don’t

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At most elite unis where there is a language requirement for graduation, there will be a placement test. So 4 years of language will presumably help your DC over just 3 years and a one year pause between their last class and the placement test.

Um, most universities have a language requirement/placement test, regardless of "elite" status.

USC doesn’t have a language requirement.

Yes it does.

https://dornsife.usc.edu/languages/foreign-language-requirement/#:~:text=%20Fulfilling%20the%20Foreign%20Language%20Requirement%20%201,examination%20%28AP%20or%20International%20Baccalaureate%20Higher...%20More%20

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't you NOT take the placement test and take 101, 102 for the easy A?

Well my kid actually wants to use his time in college to learn and would be bored silly in a class where he already knew the material so there’s that. Plus I’m not paying tuition so to buy a meaningless A for him. But I guess if you value the diploma but not the education you could do that.