Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 13:22     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.


Uhhh... Kadyrov's top general went to Ukraine and got killed. He's had several columns of his "elite" Chechen fighters already obliterated.

Is this credible news? I’ve seen it over social media but it’s hard to sort facts from propaganda right now.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 12:41     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.


Uhhh... Kadyrov's top general went to Ukraine and got killed. He's had several columns of his "elite" Chechen fighters already obliterated.


Do you have a cite for this? I desperately want to believe, but haven't been able to find a cite.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukrainian-forces-destroy-convoy-of-56-chechen-tanks-kill-general-near-kyiv-report/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10555871/Kyiv-comes-huge-aerial-artillery-bombardment-leaving-pulsing-glow-sky.html
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 12:34     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.


Uhhh... Kadyrov's top general went to Ukraine and got killed. He's had several columns of his "elite" Chechen fighters already obliterated.


Do you have a cite for this? I desperately want to believe, but haven't been able to find a cite.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 12:09     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
I won't be shedding any tears for this man...



Warlord who helped oversee Chechnya’s brutal ‘gay purge’ killed in Ukraine

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2022/02/28/russia-chechnya-ukraine-magomed-tushayev/

Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:52     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.


Uhhh... Kadyrov's top general went to Ukraine and got killed. He's had several columns of his "elite" Chechen fighters already obliterated.


Putin is smiling at this. It means that the Chechens don't pose a real threat anytime soon.

So yeah, my point still stands: just like Chechnya, a neutered Ukrainian with a bunch of brainwashed young adults under the thumb of a strongman is the playbook.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:50     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Russia lost to smaller countries in the past - Japan, Finland, and Afghanistan.

But then, the US couldn't beat NKorea, lost to Vietnam and then lost to Russia's common enemy Afghanistan.

Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:47     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meh.....they sent in a bunch of teenagers and early 20s somethings (kids) conscripts with crappy supplies and weapons to serves as fresh meat to be turned into ground beef. They were used to soften up the Ukraine. Russia's advanced weaponry and elite divisions till haven't really been deployed yet. People shouldn't get confident at all that Russia has been 'struggling'. They are just getting warmed up, so I wouldn't extract a whole lot from the first week of combat.


Lol. That sounds like the English plan in braveheart to send in the Irish as target practice.
Typically, in modern warfare; you send in highly trained forces to disrupt command and control and sabotage operations to create fear.

Sending in your scrubs first for target practice and build enemy confidence would be a new one. Maybe they think they are in Stalingrad playbook but this time invading instead of defending and it will confuse the Ukrainians.


Russians sent paratroopers and spetznaz to Kyiv and other cities early on. Didn't work out so well. Including Ukrainians downing an IL-25 loaded with 100-145 of Russia's elite para force...
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:45     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.


Uhhh... Kadyrov's top general went to Ukraine and got killed. He's had several columns of his "elite" Chechen fighters already obliterated.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:44     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meh.....they sent in a bunch of teenagers and early 20s somethings (kids) conscripts with crappy supplies and weapons to serves as fresh meat to be turned into ground beef. They were used to soften up the Ukraine. Russia's advanced weaponry and elite divisions till haven't really been deployed yet. People shouldn't get confident at all that Russia has been 'struggling'. They are just getting warmed up, so I wouldn't extract a whole lot from the first week of combat.


Lol. That sounds like the English plan in braveheart to send in the Irish as target practice.
Typically, in modern warfare; you send in highly trained forces to disrupt command and control and sabotage operations to create fear.

Sending in your scrubs first for target practice and build enemy confidence would be a new one. Maybe they think they are in Stalingrad playbook but this time invading instead of defending and it will confuse the Ukrainians.


By my estimation they have sent about 18% of Russia's military resources into Ukraine - and it's been a mix of compulsory service teenagers who don't want to be there and professional (paratroopers and elite) - but it's been a mess for them all the same. Yes, they can escalate and send more but that will start to mean pulling their troops from Syria and other deployments around the world, along with starting to whittle away at their own national defense...
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:40     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
The playbook is Grozny - pound Ukraine into submission, even if destroys all infrastructure and the populace is decimated. Elevate a ruthless strongman Ukrainian-native mobster to be the Governor that answers only to Putin.

Look at all the Chechen forces Putin has at his disposal. They are all the kids born during or after the Chechen war; they've been thoroughly placated and brainwashed to fight on behalf of the monster who murdered all their relatives.

That's the playbook for Ukraine.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:37     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meh.....they sent in a bunch of teenagers and early 20s somethings (kids) conscripts with crappy supplies and weapons to serves as fresh meat to be turned into ground beef. They were used to soften up the Ukraine. Russia's advanced weaponry and elite divisions till haven't really been deployed yet. People shouldn't get confident at all that Russia has been 'struggling'. They are just getting warmed up, so I wouldn't extract a whole lot from the first week of combat.


So they sent in their 3rd string bench warmers just to confused the US military and intelligence officers?

Makes a lot of sense.


And they didn't want all of those tanks anyway, so they sent them into Ukraine without enough gas so they didn't have to deal with them anymore, I guess.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:33     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:Meh.....they sent in a bunch of teenagers and early 20s somethings (kids) conscripts with crappy supplies and weapons to serves as fresh meat to be turned into ground beef. They were used to soften up the Ukraine. Russia's advanced weaponry and elite divisions till haven't really been deployed yet. People shouldn't get confident at all that Russia has been 'struggling'. They are just getting warmed up, so I wouldn't extract a whole lot from the first week of combat.


So they sent in their 3rd string bench warmers just to confused the US military and intelligence officers?

Makes a lot of sense.

Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:31     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meh.....they sent in a bunch of teenagers and early 20s somethings (kids) conscripts with crappy supplies and weapons to serves as fresh meat to be turned into ground beef. They were used to soften up the Ukraine. Russia's advanced weaponry and elite divisions till haven't really been deployed yet. People shouldn't get confident at all that Russia has been 'struggling'. They are just getting warmed up, so I wouldn't extract a whole lot from the first week of combat.


Lol. That sounds like the English plan in braveheart to send in the Irish as target practice.
Typically, in modern warfare; you send in highly trained forces to disrupt command and control and sabotage operations to create fear.

Sending in your scrubs first for target practice and build enemy confidence would be a new one. Maybe they think they are in Stalingrad playbook but this time invading instead of defending and it will confuse the Ukrainians.

Putin thinks Russians are expendable. Ukraine has a limited supply of weapons and troops. Each conscript killed is one less bullet the Ukrainians have. Each Ukranian killed is one less to fight. Russia will just send in more conscripts. Their main advantage is population and a 100-1 trade-off doesn't matter to Putin.

I feel for the ordinary Russians being sacrificed as a military strategy but they need to put a stop to this themselves. Putin doesn't care if they live or die.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:22     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:Meh.....they sent in a bunch of teenagers and early 20s somethings (kids) conscripts with crappy supplies and weapons to serves as fresh meat to be turned into ground beef. They were used to soften up the Ukraine. Russia's advanced weaponry and elite divisions till haven't really been deployed yet. People shouldn't get confident at all that Russia has been 'struggling'. They are just getting warmed up, so I wouldn't extract a whole lot from the first week of combat.


Lol. That sounds like the English plan in braveheart to send in the Irish as target practice.
Typically, in modern warfare; you send in highly trained forces to disrupt command and control and sabotage operations to create fear.

Sending in your scrubs first for target practice and build enemy confidence would be a new one. Maybe they think they are in Stalingrad playbook but this time invading instead of defending and it will confuse the Ukrainians.
Anonymous
Post 03/02/2022 11:19     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin will use thermobaric weapons to slaughter civilians in Ukraine - especially in the cities.

The entire remaining population of Ukraine WILL fight.

Remember the grandma with sunflower seeds? She is coming back.

Only this time she will stab a kitchen knife into the neck of that Russian soldier.


Thermobaric bombs are not the end all and be all. Bombing has limited effect. You bomb an urban area it makes rumble which makes it hard to take. I think the Russians will use chemicals weapons on civilians. They are not very sophisticated and as such have very limited options. It’s mass artillery followed by armor.


I read a headline this morning that mentioned Russia's involvement in Syria's civil war and had a lightbulb moment. I think Putin will do what Assad did and bring as much death as he can to the civilian population. This is a test. We (the West) didn't intervene in Syria. What will we do now?