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Anonymous wrote:Ohhh there's an update on the divorce kerfuffle and the Swedish press are not backing down.

They say Daniel is/was cheating with a woman at court and Victoria had her fired!

From the magazine: “What an embarrassing attempt to silence us. From day one in reporting their marital crisis, we deliberately chose to omit some sensitive issues as we kept press ethics in mind. But since the royal family now firmly claims that there are no problems between Victoria and Daniel, that changes the dynamic."

Multiple sources are confirming - "It was just before Christmas that Crown Princess Victoria learned of the serious 'incident' that now threatens her entire marriage," it reads in one article. For example, 'another woman' would be involved, who was also working for the court: "In that same year, when everything became known, the woman suddenly had to leave her workplace under mysterious circumstances."

I feel so sorry for Victoria. She’s a gracious sister/daughter and lovely woman but her father has undermined her since she was a small child and now she has a potentially manipulative and emotionally abusive partner. I wanted happiness for her because of her father’s ridiculous behavior. I wish she was born in the Norwegian royal family. She would have had a better life. If they divorce I hope it’s when she’s Queen so she holds all the power.

What did her father do?

This - people keep referencing her father's actions but I haven't seen a summary anywhere?

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Anonymous wrote:So much hatred for Mary and Fred and they would constantly use Victoria and Daniel as the standard and now look. Victoria grew up very insecure about her looks and weight and suffered from bulimia. Daniel was a personal trainer when they fell in love. It isn't far off or crazy that he knows what her emotional weaknesses are and can exploit them.

But why would he? She seems like a person who has grown into her body and her role? Quite confident and so has he.

And what’s this about Crown Prince Frederick and Mary of Denmark?

NP. There's a gossip site called RoyalDish that's a bit like the DCUM of royal gossip fiends and they HATE Princess Mary. They have a whole subforum of threads where they post every single picture of her and analyze every pixel so they can ascribe some kind of nefarious, grasping motive to her. They've got whole narratives constructed based on absolutely nothing. It's alternatively disgusting and hilarious. There was also a lot of hatred for Kate, though that has dimmed in recent years. Letizia of Spain was also routinely torn to bits but then all the scandals about Juan Carlos and Cristina started coming out and that narrative kind of collapsed.

I want to say I'm surprised about Victoria and Daniel and I kind of am, but the two situations I know in my own life of people who have married their personal trainers both ended in cheating and heartbreak. I just assume most marriages built on superficial stuff like that won't last.

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm really surprised about that re Letizia. Like I knew some people didn't like her because she's the first Queen of true middle-class had a successful job background. But she ROCKS as a Queen. Doing so many appearances, always fashionable, constant advocacy and speeches, and never really put a foot wrong.

Except when she got in a public fight with her MIL on Easter.

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Anonymous wrote:So much hatred for Mary and Fred and they would constantly use Victoria and Daniel as the standard and now look. Victoria grew up very insecure about her looks and weight and suffered from bulimia. Daniel was a personal trainer when they fell in love. It isn't far off or crazy that he knows what her emotional weaknesses are and can exploit them.

But why would he? She seems like a person who has grown into her body and her role? Quite confident and so has he.

And what’s this about Crown Prince Frederick and Mary of Denmark?

NP. There's a gossip site called RoyalDish that's a bit like the DCUM of royal gossip fiends and they HATE Princess Mary. They have a whole subforum of threads where they post every single picture of her and analyze every pixel so they can ascribe some kind of nefarious, grasping motive to her. They've got whole narratives constructed based on absolutely nothing. It's alternatively disgusting and hilarious. There was also a lot of hatred for Kate, though that has dimmed in recent years. Letizia of Spain was also routinely torn to bits but then all the scandals about Juan Carlos and Cristina started coming out and that narrative kind of collapsed.

I want to say I'm surprised about Victoria and Daniel and I kind of am, but the two situations I know in my own life of people who have married their personal trainers both ended in cheating and heartbreak. I just assume most marriages built on superficial stuff like that won't last.

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm really surprised about that re Letizia. Like I knew some people didn't like her because she's the first Queen of true middle-class had a successful job background. But she ROCKS as a Queen. Doing so many appearances, always fashionable, constant advocacy and speeches, and never really put a foot wrong.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Ohhh there's an update on the divorce kerfuffle and the Swedish press are not backing down.

They say Daniel is/was cheating with a woman at court and Victoria had her fired!

From the magazine: “What an embarrassing attempt to silence us. From day one in reporting their marital crisis, we deliberately chose to omit some sensitive issues as we kept press ethics in mind. But since the royal family now firmly claims that there are no problems between Victoria and Daniel, that changes the dynamic."

Multiple sources are confirming - "It was just before Christmas that Crown Princess Victoria learned of the serious 'incident' that now threatens her entire marriage," it reads in one article. For example, 'another woman' would be involved, who was also working for the court: "In that same year, when everything became known, the woman suddenly had to leave her workplace under mysterious circumstances."

I feel so sorry for Victoria. She’s a gracious sister/daughter and lovely woman but her father has undermined her since she was a small child and now she has a potentially manipulative and emotionally abusive partner. I wanted happiness for her because of her father’s ridiculous behavior. I wish she was born in the Norwegian royal family. She would have had a better life. If they divorce I hope it’s when she’s Queen so she holds all the power.

What did her father do?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ohhh there's an update on the divorce kerfuffle and the Swedish press are not backing down.

They say Daniel is/was cheating with a woman at court and Victoria had her fired!

From the magazine: “What an embarrassing attempt to silence us. From day one in reporting their marital crisis, we deliberately chose to omit some sensitive issues as we kept press ethics in mind. But since the royal family now firmly claims that there are no problems between Victoria and Daniel, that changes the dynamic."

Multiple sources are confirming - "It was just before Christmas that Crown Princess Victoria learned of the serious 'incident' that now threatens her entire marriage," it reads in one article. For example, 'another woman' would be involved, who was also working for the court: "In that same year, when everything became known, the woman suddenly had to leave her workplace under mysterious circumstances."

I feel so sorry for Victoria. She’s a gracious sister/daughter and lovely woman but her father has undermined her since she was a small child and now she has a potentially manipulative and emotionally abusive partner. I wanted happiness for her because of her father’s ridiculous behavior. I wish she was born in the Norwegian royal family. She would have had a better life. If they divorce I hope it’s when she’s Queen so she holds all the power.

Anonymous wrote:Ohhh there's an update on the divorce kerfuffle and the Swedish press are not backing down.

They say Daniel is/was cheating with a woman at court and Victoria had her fired!

From the magazine: “What an embarrassing attempt to silence us. From day one in reporting their marital crisis, we deliberately chose to omit some sensitive issues as we kept press ethics in mind. But since the royal family now firmly claims that there are no problems between Victoria and Daniel, that changes the dynamic."

Multiple sources are confirming - "It was just before Christmas that Crown Princess Victoria learned of the serious 'incident' that now threatens her entire marriage," it reads in one article. For example, 'another woman' would be involved, who was also working for the court: "In that same year, when everything became known, the woman suddenly had to leave her workplace under mysterious circumstances."

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Anonymous wrote:So much hatred for Mary and Fred and they would constantly use Victoria and Daniel as the standard and now look. Victoria grew up very insecure about her looks and weight and suffered from bulimia. Daniel was a personal trainer when they fell in love. It isn't far off or crazy that he knows what her emotional weaknesses are and can exploit them.

But why would he? She seems like a person who has grown into her body and her role? Quite confident and so has he.

And what’s this about Crown Prince Frederick and Mary of Denmark?

NP. There's a gossip site called RoyalDish that's a bit like the DCUM of royal gossip fiends and they HATE Princess Mary. They have a whole subforum of threads where they post every single picture of her and analyze every pixel so they can ascribe some kind of nefarious, grasping motive to her. They've got whole narratives constructed based on absolutely nothing. It's alternatively disgusting and hilarious. There was also a lot of hatred for Kate, though that has dimmed in recent years. Letizia of Spain was also routinely torn to bits but then all the scandals about Juan Carlos and Cristina started coming out and that narrative kind of collapsed.

I want to say I'm surprised about Victoria and Daniel and I kind of am, but the two situations I know in my own life of people who have married their personal trainers both ended in cheating and heartbreak. I just assume most marriages built on superficial stuff like that won't last.

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm really surprised about that re Letizia. Like I knew some people didn't like her because she's the first Queen of true middle-class had a successful job background. But she ROCKS as a Queen. Doing so many appearances, always fashionable, constant advocacy and speeches, and never really put a foot wrong.

She also has got into it once or twice with her MIL in public.

I only remember once and that was because the MIL was yanking her daughter the future Queen around in public. She should have left with her husband in exile.

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Anonymous wrote:So much hatred for Mary and Fred and they would constantly use Victoria and Daniel as the standard and now look. Victoria grew up very insecure about her looks and weight and suffered from bulimia. Daniel was a personal trainer when they fell in love. It isn't far off or crazy that he knows what her emotional weaknesses are and can exploit them.

But why would he? She seems like a person who has grown into her body and her role? Quite confident and so has he.

And what’s this about Crown Prince Frederick and Mary of Denmark?

NP. There's a gossip site called RoyalDish that's a bit like the DCUM of royal gossip fiends and they HATE Princess Mary. They have a whole subforum of threads where they post every single picture of her and analyze every pixel so they can ascribe some kind of nefarious, grasping motive to her. They've got whole narratives constructed based on absolutely nothing. It's alternatively disgusting and hilarious. There was also a lot of hatred for Kate, though that has dimmed in recent years. Letizia of Spain was also routinely torn to bits but then all the scandals about Juan Carlos and Cristina started coming out and that narrative kind of collapsed.

I want to say I'm surprised about Victoria and Daniel and I kind of am, but the two situations I know in my own life of people who have married their personal trainers both ended in cheating and heartbreak. I just assume most marriages built on superficial stuff like that won't last.

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm really surprised about that re Letizia. Like I knew some people didn't like her because she's the first Queen of true middle-class had a successful job background. But she ROCKS as a Queen. Doing so many appearances, always fashionable, constant advocacy and speeches, and never really put a foot wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much hatred for Mary and Fred and they would constantly use Victoria and Daniel as the standard and now look. Victoria grew up very insecure about her looks and weight and suffered from bulimia. Daniel was a personal trainer when they fell in love. It isn't far off or crazy that he knows what her emotional weaknesses are and can exploit them.

But why would he? She seems like a person who has grown into her body and her role? Quite confident and so has he.

And what’s this about Crown Prince Frederick and Mary of Denmark?

NP. There's a gossip site called RoyalDish that's a bit like the DCUM of royal gossip fiends and they HATE Princess Mary. They have a whole subforum of threads where they post every single picture of her and analyze every pixel so they can ascribe some kind of nefarious, grasping motive to her. They've got whole narratives constructed based on absolutely nothing. It's alternatively disgusting and hilarious. There was also a lot of hatred for Kate, though that has dimmed in recent years. Letizia of Spain was also routinely torn to bits but then all the scandals about Juan Carlos and Cristina started coming out and that narrative kind of collapsed.

I want to say I'm surprised about Victoria and Daniel and I kind of am, but the two situations I know in my own life of people who have married their personal trainers both ended in cheating and heartbreak. I just assume most marriages built on superficial stuff like that won't last.

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm really surprised about that re Letizia. Like I knew some people didn't like her because she's the first Queen of true middle-class had a successful job background. But she ROCKS as a Queen. Doing so many appearances, always fashionable, constant advocacy and speeches, and never really put a foot wrong.

She also has got into it once or twice with her MIL in public.