Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:30
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s not just meeting or exceeding the 75th percentile. Course rigor compared to that of your classmates is extremely important.
I wish SCHEV had a section on Echols Scholars. That process is opaque IMO.
Straight-forward GPA
Not true. My DS had a crazy high GPA, top 7 in his class out of 400 and he didn't get Echols. Only one of the 11 kids who got in got Echols and it was our salutatorian, not our valedictorian who also attends UVA so by definition, they have a higher GPA.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:28
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
and as my mother always said…people in hell want ice water
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:28
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:It’s not just meeting or exceeding the 75th percentile. Course rigor compared to that of your classmates is extremely important.
I wish SCHEV had a section on Echols Scholars. That process is opaque IMO.
Straight-forward GPA
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:27
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no way the Commonwealth would let these schools go private, nothing to gain. I am surprised at the 6% funding number. I would have guessed it was in the 20% range.
It's now less than 6% from the Commonwealth. From wiki
"As of 2013, UVA's $1.4 billion academic budget is paid for primarily by tuition and fees (32%), research grants (23%), endowment and gifts (19%), and sales and services (12%).[100] The university receives 10% of its academic funds through state appropriation from the Commonwealth of Virginia.[100] For the overall (including non-academic) university budget of $2.6 billion, 45% comes from medical patient revenue.[100] The Commonwealth contributes less than 6%.[100]
Although UVA is the flagship university of Virginia, state funding has decreased for several consecutive decades.[51] Financial support from the state dropped by half from 12 percent of total revenue in 2001–02 to six percent in 2013–14.[51] The portion of academic revenue coming from the state fell by even more in the same period, from 22 percent to just nine percent.[51] This nominal support from the state, contributing just $154 million of UVA's $2.6 billion budget in 2012–13, has led President Sullivan and others to contemplate the partial privatization of the University of Virginia.[101] UVA's Darden School and Law School are already self-sufficient."
Looking at their endowment, it makes sense for UVA to receive less. Give it to the other schools. I looked up W&M, and the commonwealth funds about 11% of their budget. It is interesting that Darden and the Law school are basically private institutions.
UVA built that endowment AFTER it asked to be spun off. Then the Commonwealth saw it and wanted it back. Nay nay, UVA said!
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:27
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
It’s not just meeting or exceeding the 75th percentile. Course rigor compared to that of your classmates is extremely important.
I wish SCHEV had a section on Echols Scholars. That process is opaque IMO.
I wish SCHEV had a section on Echols Scholars. That process is opaque IMO.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:24
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
This is what we foreigners have been saying for years, OP. In the rest of the world, there is a formula, or at least much more of one than here. You have the grades, you get in, is what it essentially boils down to.
Here admissions committees are allowed to be racist, discriminatory, and they openly favor children of alumni, children of billionaire donors, and children with no particular academic strength who happen to be good at sports.
It's disgusting, and yet, the brain-washed American people continue to believe it's a great "holistic" system and they beggar themselves or their children to get in, instead of voting for politicians who might make university low-cost, like in other developed countries.
Here admissions committees are allowed to be racist, discriminatory, and they openly favor children of alumni, children of billionaire donors, and children with no particular academic strength who happen to be good at sports.
It's disgusting, and yet, the brain-washed American people continue to believe it's a great "holistic" system and they beggar themselves or their children to get in, instead of voting for politicians who might make university low-cost, like in other developed countries.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:21
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There is no way the Commonwealth would let these schools go private, nothing to gain. I am surprised at the 6% funding number. I would have guessed it was in the 20% range.
It's now less than 6% from the Commonwealth. From wiki
"As of 2013, UVA's $1.4 billion academic budget is paid for primarily by tuition and fees (32%), research grants (23%), endowment and gifts (19%), and sales and services (12%).[100] The university receives 10% of its academic funds through state appropriation from the Commonwealth of Virginia.[100] For the overall (including non-academic) university budget of $2.6 billion, 45% comes from medical patient revenue.[100] The Commonwealth contributes less than 6%.[100]
Although UVA is the flagship university of Virginia, state funding has decreased for several consecutive decades.[51] Financial support from the state dropped by half from 12 percent of total revenue in 2001–02 to six percent in 2013–14.[51] The portion of academic revenue coming from the state fell by even more in the same period, from 22 percent to just nine percent.[51] This nominal support from the state, contributing just $154 million of UVA's $2.6 billion budget in 2012–13, has led President Sullivan and others to contemplate the partial privatization of the University of Virginia.[101] UVA's Darden School and Law School are already self-sufficient."
Looking at their endowment, it makes sense for UVA to receive less. Give it to the other schools. I looked up W&M, and the commonwealth funds about 11% of their budget. It is interesting that Darden and the Law school are basically private institutions.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:20
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn't work that way anymore. It used to. When I grew up in CA there was a formula that guaranteed you admission to UC schools. That's not true now.
The top something % (can't recall the exact number) in CA is still guaranteed admissions to a UC but that might be Merced or Bakersfield.
Bakersfield is a Cal State, not a UC.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:19
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
1) Numerical formulas aren't equitable when the school systems aren't equal across the state (or even schools within a county aren't equal)
2) Many valuable characteristics cannot be measured with numbers/formulas
2) Many valuable characteristics cannot be measured with numbers/formulas
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:18
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't work that way anymore. It used to. When I grew up in CA there was a formula that guaranteed you admission to UC schools. That's not true now.
When was this? i grew up in CA too (graduated high school in 93) and never heard of this "formula." We were all left hanging until late March/early April when admission packets were mailed out.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:15
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:There is no way the Commonwealth would let these schools go private, nothing to gain. I am surprised at the 6% funding number. I would have guessed it was in the 20% range.
It's now less than 6% from the Commonwealth. From wiki
"As of 2013, UVA's $1.4 billion academic budget is paid for primarily by tuition and fees (32%), research grants (23%), endowment and gifts (19%), and sales and services (12%).[100] The university receives 10% of its academic funds through state appropriation from the Commonwealth of Virginia.[100] For the overall (including non-academic) university budget of $2.6 billion, 45% comes from medical patient revenue.[100] The Commonwealth contributes less than 6%.[100]
Although UVA is the flagship university of Virginia, state funding has decreased for several consecutive decades.[51] Financial support from the state dropped by half from 12 percent of total revenue in 2001–02 to six percent in 2013–14.[51] The portion of academic revenue coming from the state fell by even more in the same period, from 22 percent to just nine percent.[51] This nominal support from the state, contributing just $154 million of UVA's $2.6 billion budget in 2012–13, has led President Sullivan and others to contemplate the partial privatization of the University of Virginia.[101] UVA's Darden School and Law School are already self-sufficient."
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:15
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.
Your kid was rejected, eh?
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:13
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Virginia is the most transparent state in the US due to the SCHEV reports. Unfortunately, most people here want to gripe and not do the research.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:13
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.
They don't really need your tax dollars.
And you don't get to demand a damn thing.
Take a seat.
Anonymous
02/15/2022 18:12
Subject: I want transparency and accountability from UVA
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Doesn't work that way anymore. It used to. When I grew up in CA there was a formula that guaranteed you admission to UC schools. That's not true now.
The top something % (can't recall the exact number) in CA is still guaranteed admissions to a UC but that might be Merced or Bakersfield.
There's no UC Bakersfield.
Right. I meant UC Riverside. Bakersfield is the Cal State.