Anonymous
Post 02/11/2022 08:09     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Anonymous wrote:I think the one and only diet that's ever been needed is the famous: Eat Real Food. Mostly Plants.

I do find it hard to eat the amount of vegetables/fruit that they recommend--it's a lot! And I don't really find them all that filling. If I don't eat carbs and dairy, I am immediately starving and my stomach feels like it's filled with acid.

Today I ate a lot of veg/fruit and then ended up binging on pretzel chips because I was just too hungry:

Breakfast coffee with milk, banana, almond butter
Lunch -- bowl of brussel sprouts in mustard-maple spread, apple, more coffee with milk
Snack - orange
Dinner -- big bowl of lentils with mushrooms, carrots, beets, onions and farro, made with olive oil
Dessert - small bowl of ice cream


You need more protein so you won't binge on straight carbs. One of the best and most practical pieces of advice I received when I had gestational diabetes and had to see a dietician was to always combine a starch with a protein and good fats. You do this for your breakfast with the almond butter, but your afternoon is lacking protein and fat, which probably contributes to the desire to binge on pretzels. I would add to your afternoon a hard boiled egg, low fat string cheese, nuts, avocado, etc. Maybe you can add some toasted walnuts to your Brussels sprouts during lunch?
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2022 08:09     Subject: Re:Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
So I’d meat is bad, what dies the data say about dairy, for example full fat cheese 2-3 oz daily)?
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2022 07:38     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Eat real food and get decent sleep.

We need a few confirmation bias articles in here about things like how bad oatmeal actually is for you and how running is going to cause you to die of a heart attack just to round this out.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2022 00:23     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
I think the one and only diet that's ever been needed is the famous: Eat Real Food. Mostly Plants.

I do find it hard to eat the amount of vegetables/fruit that they recommend--it's a lot! And I don't really find them all that filling. If I don't eat carbs and dairy, I am immediately starving and my stomach feels like it's filled with acid.

Today I ate a lot of veg/fruit and then ended up binging on pretzel chips because I was just too hungry:

Breakfast coffee with milk, banana, almond butter
Lunch -- bowl of brussel sprouts in mustard-maple spread, apple, more coffee with milk
Snack - orange
Dinner -- big bowl of lentils with mushrooms, carrots, beets, onions and farro, made with olive oil
Dessert - small bowl of ice cream

Anonymous
Post 02/11/2022 00:15     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
To PP - 96 year olds don't need a lot of calories.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2022 00:12     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My father is 96yo and is in amazing physical health - perfect blood pressure, takes long daily walks.

This is what he eats:

Breakfast:
one egg
one yogurt
one banana
grapes
often a kiwi
a thick slice of pinneaple
a few pieces of mango
some strawberries
a small cup of espresso

Meal - generally one large meal a day
Split pea soup (he loves this and eats it almost daily)
one broiled chicken thigh or 3 oz fish
vegetables: cauliflower, broccoli, carrots, might have a small potato included but not usually
fried plantains
often (but not always) avocado

snack: homemade fruit juice

dinner: sweets!! He loves sweets and will always have a piece of dessert!

Note: all frying is done with olive oil and there is often oil on the veggies (not margarine or butter)

When he was younger, he ate less fruit, more fish, would have nuts and a drink after work and often have wine with dinner. As he got older, he cut those things out and has time to walk more.




That diet sounds like it's under 1000 calories a day


He's not underweight.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 23:58     Subject: Re:Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Anonymous wrote:I eat that diet featured in the CNN article, and make my daily fruit veg intake. I've eaten that diet since my late 20s. Am 50 now and healthy, slender, BMI. No medications. I do believe a med type diet is the best imo


To the spinach smoothie person. Your smoothy cuts all the fiber into smithereens so you are losing out on the benefits of fiber. Yes you have your micronutrients but fiber is critical and underappreciated.


No. It does not matter if your fiber is in long threads or in ground up bits. Fiber is basically the ingredient that is not being absorbed by the body. So it works to bulk up the liquified food mixture and moves it through the gut. It helps to effectively scrub the walls of your gut as it moves along removing waste product. It also helps in, lowering the glycemic index of the food by adding the non-absorbable bulk, and providing PREBIOTIC enviornment to the good gut bacteria. It also absorbs a good amount of water and makes the stool bulky allowing for easy pooping and timely removal of toxins.



Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 23:46     Subject: Re:Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Anonymous wrote:I eat that diet featured in the CNN article, and make my daily fruit veg intake. I've eaten that diet since my late 20s. Am 50 now and healthy, slender, BMI. No medications. I do believe a med type diet is the best imo


To the spinach smoothie person. Your smoothy cuts all the fiber into smithereens so you are losing out on the benefits of fiber. Yes you have your micronutrients but fiber is critical and underappreciated.


I googled this claim about the smoothies and you're not right. Blending fruits and veggies before eating them doesn't take out the fiber, just like chewing doesn't take out the fiber.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 23:44     Subject: Re:Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I eat that diet featured in the CNN article, and make my daily fruit veg intake. I've eaten that diet since my late 20s. Am 50 now and healthy, slender, BMI. No medications. I do believe a med type diet is the best imo


To the spinach smoothie person. Your smoothy cuts all the fiber into smithereens so you are losing out on the benefits of fiber. Yes you have your micronutrients but fiber is critical and underappreciated.


Could you share this article?


DP. I don’t think blending spinach destroys the fiber. It’s not like juicing where the fiber is left behind. You’re still drinking the fiber that is broken down. Your teeth and stomach acids also break it down so no different if your blender does it. I drink a green smoothie daily and throw in a few fruits, seeds, oats, and protein powder. I get more than 3 servings right there along with whole grains. Then I eat other fruits and vegetables as snack or with meals.


This. If blending spinach makes the fiber disappear, then what does chewing it aggressively before swallowing do?

Should I swallow the leaves whole?
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 23:44     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Anonymous wrote:My father is 96yo and is in amazing physical health - perfect blood pressure, takes long daily walks.

This is what he eats:

Breakfast:
one egg
one yogurt
one banana
grapes
often a kiwi
a thick slice of pinneaple
a few pieces of mango
some strawberries
a small cup of espresso

Meal - generally one large meal a day
Split pea soup (he loves this and eats it almost daily)
one broiled chicken thigh or 3 oz fish
vegetables: cauliflower, broccoli, carrots, might have a small potato included but not usually
fried plantains
often (but not always) avocado

snack: homemade fruit juice

dinner: sweets!! He loves sweets and will always have a piece of dessert!

Note: all frying is done with olive oil and there is often oil on the veggies (not margarine or butter)

When he was younger, he ate less fruit, more fish, would have nuts and a drink after work and often have wine with dinner. As he got older, he cut those things out and has time to walk more.




That diet sounds like it's under 1000 calories a day
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 23:25     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
My father is 96yo and is in amazing physical health - perfect blood pressure, takes long daily walks.

This is what he eats:

Breakfast:
one egg
one yogurt
one banana
grapes
often a kiwi
a thick slice of pinneaple
a few pieces of mango
some strawberries
a small cup of espresso

Meal - generally one large meal a day
Split pea soup (he loves this and eats it almost daily)
one broiled chicken thigh or 3 oz fish
vegetables: cauliflower, broccoli, carrots, might have a small potato included but not usually
fried plantains
often (but not always) avocado

snack: homemade fruit juice

dinner: sweets!! He loves sweets and will always have a piece of dessert!

Note: all frying is done with olive oil and there is often oil on the veggies (not margarine or butter)

When he was younger, he ate less fruit, more fish, would have nuts and a drink after work and often have wine with dinner. As he got older, he cut those things out and has time to walk more.


Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 14:06     Subject: Re:Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I eat that diet featured in the CNN article, and make my daily fruit veg intake. I've eaten that diet since my late 20s. Am 50 now and healthy, slender, BMI. No medications. I do believe a med type diet is the best imo


To the spinach smoothie person. Your smoothy cuts all the fiber into smithereens so you are losing out on the benefits of fiber. Yes you have your micronutrients but fiber is critical and underappreciated.


Could you share this article?


DP. I don’t think blending spinach destroys the fiber. It’s not like juicing where the fiber is left behind. You’re still drinking the fiber that is broken down. Your teeth and stomach acids also break it down so no different if your blender does it. I drink a green smoothie daily and throw in a few fruits, seeds, oats, and protein powder. I get more than 3 servings right there along with whole grains. Then I eat other fruits and vegetables as snack or with meals.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 13:57     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
I eat meat once a week. Lots of grains, beans, vegetables, and fruit. No dairy. My cholesterol is low.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 13:54     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is it about beef that’s correlated with lower life expectancies?



Something about it triggering inflammation within GI system


And the horrific amount of hormones and medications given to the cows.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2022 13:47     Subject: Ideal diet for long term health/longevity
Anonymous wrote:What is it about beef that’s correlated with lower life expectancies?



Something about it triggering inflammation within GI system