Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 17:32     Subject: Re:Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Anonymous wrote:For a private institution? Is that possible?


I get state public schools, but legacy isn’t a big deal at those. Sports are.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 17:31     Subject: Re:Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

For a private institution? Is that possible?
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 17:20     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Is this even an issue outside the top 20-30 schools?

Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 17:18     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t it be Constitutional?

—lawyer


Don't private institutions generally have the right to freely associate, provided they are not in violation of any of the civil rights laws?
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 17:05     Subject: Re:Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Yikes, hope it doesn't pass this year!! Gotta get my junior into my alma mater for next admissions cycle!!
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 17:03     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.


Looks like you are one of them. But the majority of POCs will not be benefited from legacy preferences.


I also am 'one of them'. That's not the point. Point is that something that once seemed reasonable, and had value, suddenly doesn't because there's a significant amount of POC who benefit.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 16:43     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Anonymous wrote:No they should not do this. First your premise is wrong. There is no evidence this would increase admits of POC. There is every reason to believe that it would be exactly the same distribution. Remember at most schools legacy only helps if you in the range of students that would otherwise be admitted. No reason to think that some of them would be admitted anyway if you eliminated legacy and people that look just like them will fill the slots. I really don't see anyone lifting increasing POC representation if legacy went away

Second I am reluctant to the government getting too deep into who can and cannot go to a certain college.

Third, why do not think the top schools with billions will just not accept those funds? That would put people in a worse position not better.



I think the government can say they don't want to provide funds to universities that favor legacies. And no, they won't just not accept the funds. It's too much money.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 16:41     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

The one that gets me is the fed legacy hires someone mentioned in another thread.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 16:39     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t it be Constitutional?

—lawyer

Maybe the part exempting HBCUs?
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 16:36     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

They should add a provision that members of congress can't send recommendation letters expecting special treatment as well.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 16:34     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone enjoys a legacy preference. Even if it’s UMBC or Towson, kids almost always enjoy a legacy preference somewhere, wherever parents may have attended.


No, we don't


Those who don’t are first gens. That’s even more valuable than legacy preference.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 16:22     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Anonymous wrote:There's no way this would pass, right? Applies to any institution that participates in federal student aid programs, and includes the option of a waiver for HBCUs. Is that even constitutional?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-lawmakers-propose-ban-legacy-admissions-colleges-n1288396

Why would the Democrats do this juuuust at the point when increasing numbers of POC will start to benefit from legacy preferences? It's like they're determined to lose my (POC) vote.


Looks like you are one of them. But the majority of POCs will not be benefited from legacy preferences.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 16:19     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Anonymous wrote:Everyone enjoys a legacy preference. Even if it’s UMBC or Towson, kids almost always enjoy a legacy preference somewhere, wherever parents may have attended.


No, we don't
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 16:19     Subject: Re:Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

I am sure all the people here against this Act are graduates from top schools and want their kids to benefit from legacies.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 16:17     Subject: Federal ban on legacy preferences?!

Everyone enjoys a legacy preference. Even if it’s UMBC or Towson, kids almost always enjoy a legacy preference somewhere, wherever parents may have attended.