Anonymous
02/03/2022 22:21
Subject: Re:For those who have your little one in daycare full time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have noticed a significant delay in speech as well as articulation problems. My DD has been examined by the city for early intervention and diagnosed with more than 20% delay. The therapist noted she was seeing a significant increase in speech problems in the 2-4 age range and there aren’t enough providers to render services. I have an older child too who was at the same daycare precovid who did not suffer from a delay or any speech impediments.
ok ....well we dont really have a choice.
There are PLENTY of in home daycares where the provider and kids don’t mask. Including ours. It’s not required so you can just keep looking for one that doesn’t.
A center that doesn’t follow state requirements is not a place I would leave my child. What other rules do they ignore?
Anonymous
02/03/2022 21:17
Subject: Re:For those who have your little one in daycare full time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have noticed a significant delay in speech as well as articulation problems. My DD has been examined by the city for early intervention and diagnosed with more than 20% delay. The therapist noted she was seeing a significant increase in speech problems in the 2-4 age range and there aren’t enough providers to render services. I have an older child too who was at the same daycare precovid who did not suffer from a delay or any speech impediments.
ok ....well we dont really have a choice.
There are PLENTY of in home daycares where the provider and kids don’t mask. Including ours. It’s not required so you can just keep looking for one that doesn’t.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 20:53
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
PP here, i will say I dont like having my mask on when I pick him up as I want to give him a kiss and cannot and worried that he would not see my smile when i saw him. But it hasnt stopped him from smiling when he saw me (i think that came sometime well after he was 1.5+ Now i try always to take off my mask after I am in the car with him and smile and give him a kiss.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 20:50
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
OP I've had my baby in daycare since he was abt 6months old, starting sep 2020. all staff/teachers masked all the time . daycare has been great for him. I was worried about the smiling, relating to people and speech. It had absolutely NO effect on smiling or relating to people. His speech came a little later than other babies I know (most of whom have also been in daycare around the same time with masked providers) but that may be just him. Other babies in the same room as he is , with the same masked providers had words much before he did, they clearly showed no 'delay'.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 17:06
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
OP I posted on your other thread where I think you got more supportive responses. I will just reiterate here that there’s a strong (studied, not “feelings”) correlation between screen time and speech delay and there has been a lot of screen time for a lot of babies in this pandemic (which is not the parents fault but people are defensive). Keep your baby away from screens, prioritize reading to him, make sure he gets a lot of face to face time with you, and he will be fine.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 16:26
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
I have two kids in a MoCo daycare: DS is in preschool, DD in the infants/toddlers room next door. DD was born in April 2020 and enrolled in August, so her caregivers have been fully masked the entire time she's been in daycare. I was a little worried about possible speech delays, but now at 21 months, it appears my fears didn't come to pass. She's talking up a storm and tracking right along where she should be, in terms of speech. It might help that her older brother is super chatty and loves to talk to everyone, including her.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 16:04
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
My kid has been fine — currently two and has been in daycare with masked caregivers since she was around twelve months old. Very verbal, very social, very fond of her teachers. The same seems to be true of the other kids we know there.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 15:48
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
Anonymous wrote:My kid has been in daycare masked from ages 3-5. No delays or concerns with her or her friends. Also not a single spread covid case among the kids (lots of one-offs, never more than one kid at a time)
I should add my kid had a lisp on her S sounds before and during covid - she worked with a speech therapist who wore a clear mask which showed her mouth, and maybe your teacher would be open to wearing something like that
Anonymous
02/03/2022 15:47
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
My kid has been in daycare masked from ages 3-5. No delays or concerns with her or her friends. Also not a single spread covid case among the kids (lots of one-offs, never more than one kid at a time)
Anonymous
02/03/2022 15:43
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
My child has speech delay at 10 months old pre-covid. Then covid hit with no daycare/services/playdates unmasked being at home for 1.5 years, and she still has speech delay after putting her back at daycare for 8 months fast forward now. She just turns 3, not masked all the time, but all teachers are masked.
I think she has speech delay to begin with, and mask is not helpful but make it worse. We just get a private speech therapy, and they mention that some of her lip and tongue placement are wrong when some sounds are pronounced. She has articulation problem, and she is going to be unmasked doing speech therapy and speech therapist will take off her mask sometimes with a shield on.
I think she has speech delay to begin with, and mask is not helpful but make it worse. We just get a private speech therapy, and they mention that some of her lip and tongue placement are wrong when some sounds are pronounced. She has articulation problem, and she is going to be unmasked doing speech therapy and speech therapist will take off her mask sometimes with a shield on.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 15:42
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speech delay will obviously be an issue, but it is what it is. You do the best you can.
why is it "obviously" an issue? On the contrary I have heard from folks within the past 20 min that it has not been an issue with their child at all. So you never know (a diff post).
How do you suppose toddlers learn to speak?
Then why isn’t every single toddler presenting with a speech delay?
Some people who smoke don't develop lung cancer. Which obviously means smoking doesn't cause cancer after all. s/ SMH
Do you have the data on this ? Doubt it
As in - the data about speech delays from masking or is this just your expert insight
There are two questions here:
1. Is it a reasonable hypothesis that masks could case speech delays or issues with social development. You seem to think it is not because some children don't have speech delays. I do think it is a reasonable hypothesis, and so do experts. If you google this topic you will find studies showing that that it is hard for children to discern people's emotions when they are wearing a mask. Some experts say any harms will go away quickly once masks go away, but they cannot possibly know that. This is a huge experiment we are conducting with young children.
2. Is there proof that masks cause speech delays or issues with social development? No, there is not, everyone on this thread knows this. A lack of data does not mean that the people who are certain that masks don't cause harm are correct.
so what are your intentions reaching out to me? I reached out for positive stories so I can try to be optimistic since I dont have other options. Should I form a protest? I mean youre welcome to write whatever you want , I dont make the rules, but not sure why you are bothering me when i reached out asking for those that had a positive story.
I'm not "reaching out" to you. I'm responding to an anonymous message on a forum suggesting that if all toddlers do not have speech delays then masks cannot possibly be causing delays. That just doesn't make any sense and is insulting to people who are concerned. Just because some toddlers are not vulnerable, does not mean none of them are.
I'm sorry if my stating that that logic does not make sense stresses you out. Parenting is stressful. Sometimes young children do have problems that you have to figure out how to deal with, and that is hard.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 15:18
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speech delay will obviously be an issue, but it is what it is. You do the best you can.
why is it "obviously" an issue? On the contrary I have heard from folks within the past 20 min that it has not been an issue with their child at all. So you never know (a diff post).
How do you suppose toddlers learn to speak?
Then why isn’t every single toddler presenting with a speech delay?
Some people who smoke don't develop lung cancer. Which obviously means smoking doesn't cause cancer after all. s/ SMH
But you made it sound like masks caused every child to be delayed. Make up your mind.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 14:57
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speech delay will obviously be an issue, but it is what it is. You do the best you can.
why is it "obviously" an issue? On the contrary I have heard from folks within the past 20 min that it has not been an issue with their child at all. So you never know (a diff post).
How do you suppose toddlers learn to speak?
Then why isn’t every single toddler presenting with a speech delay?
Some people who smoke don't develop lung cancer. Which obviously means smoking doesn't cause cancer after all. s/ SMH
Do you have the data on this ? Doubt it
As in - the data about speech delays from masking or is this just your expert insight
There are two questions here:
1. Is it a reasonable hypothesis that masks could case speech delays or issues with social development. You seem to think it is not because some children don't have speech delays. I do think it is a reasonable hypothesis, and so do experts. If you google this topic you will find studies showing that that it is hard for children to discern people's emotions when they are wearing a mask. Some experts say any harms will go away quickly once masks go away, but they cannot possibly know that. This is a huge experiment we are conducting with young children.
2. Is there proof that masks cause speech delays or issues with social development? No, there is not, everyone on this thread knows this. A lack of data does not mean that the people who are certain that masks don't cause harm are correct.
so what are your intentions reaching out to me? I reached out for positive stories so I can try to be optimistic since I dont have other options. Should I form a protest? I mean youre welcome to write whatever you want , I dont make the rules, but not sure why you are bothering me when i reached out asking for those that had a positive story.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 13:57
Subject: Re:For those who have your little one in daycare full time
https://www.nichd.nih.gov/newsroom/news/012822-COVID-pregnancy-neurodevelopment
Very small study, but interestingly no findings as far as language. Gross motor, fine motor and social findings though.
Very small study, but interestingly no findings as far as language. Gross motor, fine motor and social findings though.
Anonymous
02/03/2022 13:52
Subject: For those who have your little one in daycare full time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Speech delay will obviously be an issue, but it is what it is. You do the best you can.
why is it "obviously" an issue? On the contrary I have heard from folks within the past 20 min that it has not been an issue with their child at all. So you never know (a diff post).
How do you suppose toddlers learn to speak?
Then why isn’t every single toddler presenting with a speech delay?
Some people who smoke don't develop lung cancer. Which obviously means smoking doesn't cause cancer after all. s/ SMH
Do you have the data on this ? Doubt it
Do you have data that masks in daycare makes any difference in Covid spread? Doubt it.