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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the phrase, but that movie is so good and stands up to repeated viewings (is that ironic?). By the end I want to live there too.

+1 I can’t stand Andie MacDowell and I still love it.

I know, right?! It’s her only redeemable performance!

That’s a dreadful lie! Show me another actress who can deliver a line in dolphin with the sincerity Andie does.

Haha, careful, PP, or I’ll force you to watch her robotic “Is it raining? I hadn’t noticed” scene from 4 Weddings on repeat. 🤣

She was fabulous in Bad Girls, which is a perfectly delightful movie that does NOT deserve 13% on Rotten Tomatoes. Fight me.

So, I grew up in Pennsylvania in the 1970's and we used the phrase similar to the current usage well before the movie. However, the exact meaning was slightly different before the movie. Before the movie, the meaning of "Groundhog Day" was going and doing something that you knew was pointless or fake to convince yourself that it mattered. In this case it referred to going out in February of every year to watch a rodent to determine if the winter was going to last 6 more weeks or not, since, in essence, the duration of the winter was unlikely to be either affected or detectable by said-rodent. So if you had a groundhog day action, it was generally something you repeated regularly that was pointless, but you did it anyway.

The concept of the phrase was elaborated far more extensively in the movie and became more common usage to repeat actions ad infinitum. So, it was already in use, but in a bit more general/generic way than the current evolved usage.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the phrase, but that movie is so good and stands up to repeated viewings (is that ironic?). By the end I want to live there too.

+1 I can’t stand Andie MacDowell and I still love it.

So as not to derail the OPs Q and a very interesting and surprisingly lively discussion re: the phrase, could someone start a separate thread about “Why do so many people dislike Andie MacDowell?” I’ve always liked her, but so many people don’t. Why?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the phrase, but that movie is so good and stands up to repeated viewings (is that ironic?). By the end I want to live there too.

+1 I can’t stand Andie MacDowell and I still love it.

I know, right?! It’s her only redeemable performance!

That’s a dreadful lie! Show me another actress who can deliver a line in dolphin with the sincerity Andie does.

Haha, careful, PP, or I’ll force you to watch her robotic “Is it raining? I hadn’t noticed” scene from 4 Weddings on repeat. 🤣

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the phrase, but that movie is so good and stands up to repeated viewings (is that ironic?). By the end I want to live there too.

+1 I can’t stand Andie MacDowell and I still love it.

I know, right?! It’s her only redeemable performance!

That’s a dreadful lie! Show me another actress who can deliver a line in dolphin with the sincerity Andie does.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a great question. Every Internet source I just looked up says it all stems from the movie. I was not able to find any evidence that it was used that way before the movie.

You must be using the Dumb Google.
Because I just googled, "groundhog day meaning". The first two results were 1. Definition from dictionary and 2. Wikipedia. They both refer to an old tradition that precedes the movie.

DP.

Have you ever heard the acronym "GIGO?"

You should look it up on your smart Google.

The OP didn't ask if the phrase existed at all before 1993, but whether the phrase *with the meaning that matches the plot of the movie* existed before the movie.

You may need to work on reading comprehension. I was referring to deductive reasoning, where you take information from two or more sources (from google) and draw a logically sound conclusion.

Have you heard of the phrase, do not believe in everything you read online?

Are you suggesting this usage of Groundhog Day is part of a vast Internet conspiracy to attribute the phrase to a popular movie?

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Anonymous wrote:I have no idea about the phrase, but that movie is so good and stands up to repeated viewings (is that ironic?). By the end I want to live there too.

+1 I can’t stand Andie MacDowell and I still love it.

I know, right?! It’s her only redeemable performance!

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This is a great question. Every Internet source I just looked up says it all stems from the movie. I was not able to find any evidence that it was used that way before the movie.

You must be using the Dumb Google.
Because I just googled, "groundhog day meaning". The first two results were 1. Definition from dictionary and 2. Wikipedia. They both refer to an old tradition that precedes the movie.

DP.

Have you ever heard the acronym "GIGO?"

You should look it up on your smart Google.

The OP didn't ask if the phrase existed at all before 1993, but whether the phrase *with the meaning that matches the plot of the movie* existed before the movie.

You may need to work on reading comprehension. I was referring to deductive reasoning, where you take information from two or more sources (from google) and draw a logically sound conclusion.

Have you heard of the phrase, do not believe in everything you read online?

Congratulations on making yourself look like a jack ass over the phrase Groundhog Day. Yet I’m guessing this is probably a groundhog type moment for you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a great question. Every Internet source I just looked up says it all stems from the movie. I was not able to find any evidence that it was used that way before the movie.

You must be using the Dumb Google.
Because I just googled, "groundhog day meaning". The first two results were 1. Definition from dictionary and 2. Wikipedia. They both refer to an old tradition that precedes the movie.

DP.

Have you ever heard the acronym "GIGO?"

You should look it up on your smart Google.

The OP didn't ask if the phrase existed at all before 1993, but whether the phrase *with the meaning that matches the plot of the movie* existed before the movie.

exactly. We’re not talking about Groundhog Day existing before the movie (duh). We’re talking about whether or not the use of the phrase oh it’s like Groundhog Day (something happening over and over ) due to the movie. Google again see what you come up with.

Anonymous wrote:Groundhog day existed, but the mundane time loop aspect of it comes from the movie. Had the writers chosen some other mundane celebration to be the event the reporter was angry to be covering that day and then on repeat loop thereafter, say Frozen Dead Guy Day in Nederland, Colorado, the title and the phrase would be different. We could be saying, "ugh, this quarantine is like Frozen Dead Guy Day" (but that would be super awkward in this context).

This. The other, rude PP above with the “smart google” is missing the point. The dictionaries that attribute a source to the secondary meaning (the repetitive loop) attribute it to the movie. OP’s husband’s theory doesn’t make sense.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/groundhog-day
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/groundhog-day