Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 17:43     Subject: Re:Does full pay make a difference?
No need to read an entire book. Just read this article for how full pay applicants fit in at SOME, not all, colleges.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/10/magazine/college-admissions-paul-tough.html
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 17:36     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure it does. Schools need to get money not give money to survive. If you get rejected even with full pay, you were pretty far down the pole.


Just being able to pay the cost isn’t of any value to top colleges. They get thousands and thousands of such applicants so unless you are “development candidate”, to make donations or can be a resourceful asset in some other way, it doesn’t help to be full pay.


You are funny. Or naive.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2022 17:33     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:No. Not all schools are need blind. And even those that supposedly are have been accused of giving preference to affluent kids.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/01/10/university-financial-aid-lawsuit/


Ha, ha, ha, pp. The biggest admissions advantage for full pay families is ED. Those who need to compare offers cannot take advantage of ED. Some colleges fill half or more of their class with ED admissions.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 18:19     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure it does. Schools need to get money not give money to survive. If you get rejected even with full pay, you were pretty far down the pole.


Just being able to pay the cost isn’t of any value to top colleges. They get thousands and thousands of such applicants so unless you are “development candidate”, to make donations or can be a resourceful asset in some other way, it doesn’t help to be full pay.


Well of course all the full pay kids are competing against each other too, but I believe the question was as opposed to someone needing significant aid to attend -- which pile do you think is bigger?


Not at colleges with huge endowments and big financial aid budget to proof their non profit status and securing donations from alumni, few hundred kids paying full tuition is peanuts for them.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 18:14     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sure it does. Schools need to get money not give money to survive. If you get rejected even with full pay, you were pretty far down the pole.


Just being able to pay the cost isn’t of any value to top colleges. They get thousands and thousands of such applicants so unless you are “development candidate”, to make donations or can be a resourceful asset in some other way, it doesn’t help to be full pay.


Well of course all the full pay kids are competing against each other too, but I believe the question was as opposed to someone needing significant aid to attend -- which pile do you think is bigger?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 18:12     Subject: Re:Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, of course. Why wouldn't it?


+1 How else do you expect these schools to give you financial aid?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 18:09     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How and where do you tell colleges that your parents donate to HS?


You don't but I assume private schools make a special effort with recommendations for students whose parents are major donors or have played an outsize role in the school.


This^. Administration at expensive private schools works hard to build relationships with admission officers for their area and knows how to get their kids accepted.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 18:04     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:Sure it does. Schools need to get money not give money to survive. If you get rejected even with full pay, you were pretty far down the pole.


Just being able to pay the cost isn’t of any value to top colleges. They get thousands and thousands of such applicants so unless you are “development candidate”, to make donations or can be a resourceful asset in some other way, it doesn’t help to be full pay.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 17:58     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:Title says st all. Curious. Don’t collages all say they are needs blind admissions?


It doesn’t at top colleges or state colleges but it helps at low ranked private colleges. It helps everywhere if you are wealthy enough to give sizeable donations.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 16:36     Subject: Re:Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:Non-recruited students who ED don't need to compare merit/aid packages and are usually full pay. The odds are much higher for ED admits (compared to RD), so yes full pay is an advantage.


Applicants can get out of ED, though, if they don’t get the financial assistance they need and can’t afford to go to the school. NYU recently had to correct an announcement they made that early decision was completely binding even if students find they cannot pay for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/18/your-money/paying-for-college/early-decision-binding-nyu.html
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 16:14     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How and where do you tell colleges that your parents donate to HS?


There is no place on the app for this and it would not fit in nicely as an answer to any of the essay questions I have seen. Perhaps your counselor recommendation might say something, but you will never really know that.


If your parents give enough they will have a relationship with he development office and the development office will let admissions know. At elite schools, this is a very select group, and this question is best answered by the snarky comment “If you gotta ask…”. But I do not mean to be snarky so please forgive it.


Do you actually know ANY development office has done this, or this is just your guess?


Yes.

You can try reading a book about admissions if you are interested. There are plenty. The Price Of Admission by Daniel Golden is a good one to start with as it focuses exclusively on this stuff.

Or you can continue to be naïve and gently insult and accuse others of posting stuff they pull from their bottoms. I understand that is commonly done here so I guess I can't blame you too much.


Yes, this is exactly what a lot of posters do here.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 15:52     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:How and where do you tell colleges that your parents donate to HS?


You don't but I assume private schools make a special effort with recommendations for students whose parents are major donors or have played an outsize role in the school.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 14:38     Subject: Re:Does full pay make a difference?
Non-recruited students who ED don't need to compare merit/aid packages and are usually full pay. The odds are much higher for ED admits (compared to RD), so yes full pay is an advantage.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 11:28     Subject: Does full pay make a difference?
Anonymous wrote:Sure it does. Schools need to get money not give money to survive. If you get rejected even with full pay, you were pretty far down the pole.


Depends on the school.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2022 11:27     Subject: Re:Does full pay make a difference?
Yes, of course. Why wouldn't it?