Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 18:20     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It will be a battle between traditional conservatives and Trumpism.

One needs the other to win. If a hogan runs, he will need to adopt Trumpism to be viable in the general election, but that will turn off traditional conservatives and independents.



I don't see why he'd need to adopt Trumpism. Because there was no substance in Trumpism. He just needs to move forward with reasonable rational policies and not insult Trump.

He could focus on:

Strong foreign policy to stand up to China.
Infrastructure
Getting rid of the "irrational" parts of Obamacare (if he feels like it, I'm not sure there's much fire on this one any more)
Supporting our troops through raises and implementing better personnel policies

And there you go.
No reason to mention Trump. Believe it or not, he's just one citizen and, in most cases, not the one Americans care most about.


The Trump adherents will not support someone unless they are anointed by Trump. Do you seriously not understand this?
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 18:16     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Who cares a vote for GOP means you are a traitor to the US period


Why?


What is the GOP platform in 2020 and currently, and you will have your answer.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 18:16     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem is, a centrist conservative party isn't viable unless it is pro-choice, you know, keeping consistent with minimal government intrusion into personal lives.

And that isn't going to happen as long as Evangelicals play an outsized role.


How many people are actually single issue voters on abortion rights/lack thereof?


Ask that question again when the SCOTUS overturns Roe this summer.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 18:08     Subject: Re:2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:The bigger question is...when will the "republican party" split into two. Those with a common sense/ a brain and the trumpers?

Once that happens, life will be much easier for our country...It will create a faction of psychopaths with little political power ...i hope. I would really love to know what % of self identified Rs would support Trump versus a Romney type figure.


There are only a couple dozen republicans that have common sense. Not nearly enough to form their own party.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 16:45     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem is, a centrist conservative party isn't viable unless it is pro-choice, you know, keeping consistent with minimal government intrusion into personal lives.

And that isn't going to happen as long as Evangelicals play an outsized role.


What about the life of the unborn child?



LOL! Yea PP, what about that?! Ever thought of that before?!
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 16:30     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:The problem is, a centrist conservative party isn't viable unless it is pro-choice, you know, keeping consistent with minimal government intrusion into personal lives.

And that isn't going to happen as long as Evangelicals play an outsized role.


What about the life of the unborn child?

Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 16:20     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The obvious ones are Pence, Cruz, Haley, and DeSantis.


I agree on Haley and DeSantis and would add Crenshaw.

Pence is too boring (though maybe that would sway moderates) and Trump voters would never vote for him. Cruz would never win any moderates and might also have issues with the ultra pro Trump crowd


Maybe they would elect pence just so they can finally hang him!
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 15:15     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:Who cares a vote for GOP means you are a traitor to the US period


Again very harsh. If you said a vote towards "Trumpism" then you may get a little more credibility. There are still a handful of present Rs that are disgusted by Trump and the modern day clown show of the party.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 15:13     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The problem is, a centrist conservative party isn't viable unless it is pro-choice, you know, keeping consistent with minimal government intrusion into personal lives.

And that isn't going to happen as long as Evangelicals play an outsized role.


How many people are actually single issue voters on abortion rights/lack thereof?


Um...A lot. That's how the Republicans have won the elections they've won over the course of the last twenty years.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 15:10     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:It will be a battle between traditional conservatives and Trumpism.

One needs the other to win. If a hogan runs, he will need to adopt Trumpism to be viable in the general election, but that will turn off traditional conservatives and independents.



I don't see why he'd need to adopt Trumpism. Because there was no substance in Trumpism. He just needs to move forward with reasonable rational policies and not insult Trump.

He could focus on:

Strong foreign policy to stand up to China.
Infrastructure
Getting rid of the "irrational" parts of Obamacare (if he feels like it, I'm not sure there's much fire on this one any more)
Supporting our troops through raises and implementing better personnel policies

And there you go.
No reason to mention Trump. Believe it or not, he's just one citizen and, in most cases, not the one Americans care most about.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 15:09     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:Who cares a vote for GOP means you are a traitor to the US period


God you spam so many threads with this rhetoric. Just over and over and over again.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 15:03     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:Who cares a vote for GOP means you are a traitor to the US period


Why?
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 14:59     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Who cares a vote for GOP means you are a traitor to the US period
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 14:49     Subject: Re:2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bigger question is...when will the "republican party" split into two. Those with a common sense/ a brain and the trumpers?

Once that happens, life will be much easier for our country...It will create a faction of psychopaths with little political power ...i hope. I would really love to know what % of self identified Rs would support Trump versus a Romney type figure.


This election is prime time to do it. I would guess that tons of Democrats or Republicans who held their nose and voted Biden would enthusiastically vote for a centrist conservative party. Trump/Biden or Harris is a no win situation


I agree. I was PP.

I voted R up until 2016 but will not vote R any time soon. The Ds also have issues. If the nominees were Trump and Sanders, It would be difficult for me to place a vote. Which probably (unfortunately) benefits Trump. However, if it was a Romney type running against a far left candidate, i would vote for Romney. Slim chance that happens.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2022 14:48     Subject: 2024 Republican Nominees
Anonymous wrote:The problem is, a centrist conservative party isn't viable unless it is pro-choice, you know, keeping consistent with minimal government intrusion into personal lives.

And that isn't going to happen as long as Evangelicals play an outsized role.


How many people are actually single issue voters on abortion rights/lack thereof?