Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 06:48     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wegmans has banned plastic bags and now charges 5 cents for paper bags. A win-win for Wegmans, they get to charge for something that used to be free.

I just skip bags entirely now and throw my basket in the cart return. Wegmans created the problem, let them solve it.


So for the grocery store household trip model you might end up with 10 plastic bags , carry them into the house, unload, put bags in a cupboard. What happens to the bags? Reused to line bathroom trash cans and small step on kitchen trash cans. Still cheaper to pay .05 for a safeway or giant plastic bag since we still need them for trash can liners in the home so any delivery or curbside pickup charge is a moot point.

Note people buying boxed bags for that purpose. In the household grocery store trip model plastic bags don't randomly flow. If some one goes into a convenience store or grocery store and buys 2-3 things in 1 bag for immediate consumptiom is where you get the non reuse flow.

Paper bags we have from Whole Foods and Trader Joes get loaded with recyclables, then dumped in the recycling can. When we don't have any we use a plastic trash can and dump it into the large mixed recycling container.

Off a safeway weekly ad:

$3.79 for 30 4 gallon bags=$.13/bag
$2.99 for 30 13G decor color=$.10/bag [colored ons in a roll in plastic wrap]

Amazon 90 4G bags for 9.99=$.11/bag


Here's a more similar equivalent.

https://www.amazon.com/Reli-Thank-T-Shirt-Count-Plastic/dp/B0854J48FD

That's 1000 count for $34.99, or 3.5 cents per bag. They really are quite cheap, otherwise stores would already charge for them explicitly.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2022 05:43     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:Wegmans has banned plastic bags and now charges 5 cents for paper bags. A win-win for Wegmans, they get to charge for something that used to be free.

I just skip bags entirely now and throw my basket in the cart return. Wegmans created the problem, let them solve it.


So for the grocery store household trip model you might end up with 10 plastic bags , carry them into the house, unload, put bags in a cupboard. What happens to the bags? Reused to line bathroom trash cans and small step on kitchen trash cans. Still cheaper to pay .05 for a safeway or giant plastic bag since we still need them for trash can liners in the home so any delivery or curbside pickup charge is a moot point.

Note people buying boxed bags for that purpose. In the household grocery store trip model plastic bags don't randomly flow. If some one goes into a convenience store or grocery store and buys 2-3 things in 1 bag for immediate consumptiom is where you get the non reuse flow.

Paper bags we have from Whole Foods and Trader Joes get loaded with recyclables, then dumped in the recycling can. When we don't have any we use a plastic trash can and dump it into the large mixed recycling container.

Off a safeway weekly ad:

$3.79 for 30 4 gallon bags=$.13/bag
$2.99 for 30 13G decor color=$.10/bag [colored ons in a roll in plastic wrap]

Amazon 90 4G bags for 9.99=$.11/bag
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2022 09:48     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the point of charging $.05 for the plastic bag with idea that somehow THAT will keep it from becoming litter. I don’t get this at all. Are people not going to toss it on the ground because it cost a nickel? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

Just ban the damn bags.


It encourages you to bring your own.



And eliminating plastic bags altogether will be an even MORE effective encouragement.


This solution makes more sense than creating regressive taxes.


Let's see if Youngkin can eliminate the most regressive tax of all -- the grocery tax.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2022 07:54     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Wegmans has banned plastic bags and now charges 5 cents for paper bags. A win-win for Wegmans, they get to charge for something that used to be free.

I just skip bags entirely now and throw my basket in the cart return. Wegmans created the problem, let them solve it.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2022 07:23     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the point of charging $.05 for the plastic bag with idea that somehow THAT will keep it from becoming litter. I don’t get this at all. Are people not going to toss it on the ground because it cost a nickel? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

Just ban the damn bags.


It encourages you to bring your own.



And eliminating plastic bags altogether will be an even MORE effective encouragement.


This solution makes more sense than creating regressive taxes.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2022 07:21     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:
I am working on a new bag technology that will create bags out of paper. The paper will have to be a bit thicker than printer paper but I think it can be done. I am hoping to have R&D done in the next few years.


You are going to quickly discover that most bag patents are owned by big plastic. Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2022 01:39     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:Umm pretty sure that pp was being sarcastic. Paper shopping bags already exist…




Whoosh

Your head



Anonymous
Post 01/06/2022 01:36     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:
I am working on a new bag technology that will create bags out of paper. The paper will have to be a bit thicker than printer paper but I think it can be done. I am hoping to have R&D done in the next few years.


You need a 3D printer. Start a GoFundMe, why don’t you!
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2022 22:04     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:
I am working on a new bag technology that will create bags out of paper. The paper will have to be a bit thicker than printer paper but I think it can be done. I am hoping to have R&D done in the next few years.


Doesn't seem possible. Paper is for toilets.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2022 22:00     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:
I am working on a new bag technology that will create bags out of paper. The paper will have to be a bit thicker than printer paper but I think it can be done. I am hoping to have R&D done in the next few years.



That’s awesome! Have you considered looking into grants or maybe green-leaning venture caps for additional funding? Because that might allow you to get your R&D done faster, and get a product into the market faster. Just a thought maybe? Sending you positive vibes
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2022 18:53     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the point of charging $.05 for the plastic bag with idea that somehow THAT will keep it from becoming litter. I don’t get this at all. Are people not going to toss it on the ground because it cost a nickel? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

Just ban the damn bags.


It encourages you to bring your own.



And eliminating plastic bags altogether will be an even MORE effective encouragement.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2022 18:53     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Umm pretty sure that pp was being sarcastic. Paper shopping bags already exist…
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2022 18:51     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:
I am working on a new bag technology that will create bags out of paper. The paper will have to be a bit thicker than printer paper but I think it can be done. I am hoping to have R&D done in the next few years.


That’s great!!!

This is why we need to be teaching STEM in schools. There could be so many more solutions like this for other problems, just waiting for the next generation to discover them. Except too many people keep voting for republicans, so STEM funding will never be a priority.

Good luck, PP. Keep us posted!
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2022 18:50     Subject: New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
I'm just happy that this made my grocery store finally implement a system to let you use your own bags in the self check without constantly triggering "unexpected item in bagging area" warnings!
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2022 18:50     Subject: Re:New Plastic Bag Tax in Arlington, Alexandria, and Fairfax - Impact on Curbside Pick Up
Anonymous wrote:My Giant (in Bethesda) uses paper bags for curbside pickup. They use plastic bags for delivery.


And they charge you for them either way.