Can you see them at a different time when the brother isn't there?

I would not go and share air with Unvaxxed people who were just in a movie theater. Sorry.

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and avoid celebrating Christmas with your family, but you don't have the power to "cancel Christmas". This exactly is what they're saying is the end goal: to destroy the family unit.

Who is they, and who has announced that there’s an end goal?
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

It sound like your parents are more at risk and they are okay with taking that risk. This also sounds like regular upsetting family dynamics just playing out in the context of Covid.

But it is galling for op and many others when family - many of whom are vulnerable - are forced to bend over backwards and take risks in order to mollify someone who seeks to avoid taking even very minor measures that would protect the health of those around him. Not as easy as just suck it up. It is not a recipe for feeling good to be forced to reap the consequences of others poor decision making no matter if not dire

I would suck it up and go. Your grandparents may not have many Christmases left and you'll be kicking yourself if you miss out. Christmas is going on whether you go or not, sitting home alone having no fun and stewing in your self-righteousness is a hollow victory. Your young family is at minimal risk, you know that.

everyone I know is doing rapid tests before getting together for christmas. seems unreasonable to me if your brother is refusing to do that if you're supplying the tests.

Op I think you are right to feel how you feel
Rapid tests (if you can get them) are a completely reasonable thing to ask of unvaxxed people or indeed anyone.
Our kids get tested weekly.
No one is traumatized by having their nose picked with a stick

Different Poster but have to say this. Precautions about Covid are destroying my previously peaceful and supportive family. My brother exposes my parents to his kids that have had colds and close contact scares constantly. It is very upsetting and realize that I have absolutely no control over this. If one of my parents gets covid and dies, I really don't know how I will forgive my brother.

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and avoid celebrating Christmas with your family, but you don't have the power to "cancel Christmas". This exactly is what they're saying is the end goal: to destroy the family unit.

OP. I’m not sure who’s trying to destroy family units. I never said I was trying to stop them from doing the gathering. My question is whether my kids and I should come or not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People have really polarized opinions about Covid. Sounds like everyone else is on the same page and you are at the other end of the spectrum. You feel disregarded. But I bet they do too. You think you are right and I bet they do too. You want them to pick you and they probably want you to pick them. In other words you’re both doing the same thing and feeling the same way.

+1

OP here. It’s not about who’s right. I respect their different approach. It’s just my brother’s unwillingness to ever compromise and my parents enabling it. They already dictated the day, time, and place. They didn’t listen to my preferences. This is an ongoing pattern for most holidays - my brother sets the conditions.

When I care about someone and want to see them, I try to respect and accommodate their concerns within reason. Even if I think it’s unnecessary or stupid.

Also, my kids are always masked at school and indoor playdates. So the risk from the unmasked family gathering is not the same. I’m not saying my approach is better, just that I wish my family cared enough about me to take the tests that I’m offering to get them.

[quote=Anonymous]If your kids are in person school, seeing friends, going into stores, etc. they are at just as much risk as his kids.[/quote]

Not if her kids are faced.

Go ahead and avoid celebrating Christmas with your family, but you don't have the power to "cancel Christmas". This exactly is what they're saying is the end goal: to destroy the family unit.

Anonymous wrote:Traumatizing to take a covid test? What a snowflake.

OP, I would only go if you are willing to take the Covid risk. If you have the tests and have offered them, and they came up with this flimsy excuse, they really don't care.

Decide on your risk level and go or don't go. What they do is up to them.

Anonymous wrote:Traumatizing to take a covid test? What a snowflake.

OP, I would only go if you are willing to take the Covid risk. If you have the tests and have offered them, and they came up with this flimsy excuse, they really don't care.

Decide on your risk level and go or don't go. What they do is up to them.