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Anonymous wrote:Everything about whether or not Americans take climate change seriously can be told in the migration southward to Texas and Florida. I get that it’s probably mostly Republicans, covid deniers, and people who only care about low taxes, but it really goes to show how so many people do not think that climate change is a threat. Hope they enjoy the hurricanes and realize that it’s taxpayers that will pay their rescue bills.

Meanwhile, I plan on retiring in northern Maine.

My DH and I, as well as some friends, were just discussing this. I cannot imagine moving to FL or any low lying coastal region. And yes, they'll whine when their houses sink into the ocean and expect to be bailed out by the government.

Why? Why do people think that all low lying coastal regions will be an issue? Any impact will not be uniform and new technology and building methods will in the future help. There is too much money for everyone to just say -- oh well I guess it is time to move.

A) No one said it is "uniform" but it will (and is) happening in low lying regions.
B) New Tech and building are expensive and take time. And aren't happening on a wide enough scale.
C) Frankly, people just don't believe it's happening. So they aren't going to change on a wide enough scale. Despite the models showing that some areas WILL be under water in the next 50 years (OBX).

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Anonymous wrote:When you're old and bitter, people will be living in Florida and having a party.

Add cold to old and bitter.

Some people, believe it or not, actually LIKE winter.... skiing, sledding, ice skating, building snowmen with the kids, hot cocoa by a fireplace, etc. I need four seasons in my life. I would prefer 20 degrees and snowing than this 42 degrees and raining we have six months of the year in Maryland (followed by six months of hot, humid, hellscape)

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Anonymous wrote:Everything about whether or not Americans take climate change seriously can be told in the migration southward to Texas and Florida. I get that it’s probably mostly Republicans, covid deniers, and people who only care about low taxes, but it really goes to show how so many people do not think that climate change is a threat. Hope they enjoy the hurricanes and realize that it’s taxpayers that will pay their rescue bills.

Meanwhile, I plan on retiring in northern Maine.

My DH and I, as well as some friends, were just discussing this. I cannot imagine moving to FL or any low lying coastal region. And yes, they'll whine when their houses sink into the ocean and expect to be bailed out by the government.

Why? Why do people think that all low lying coastal regions will be an issue? Any impact will not be uniform and new technology and building methods will in the future help. There is too much money for everyone to just say -- oh well I guess it is time to move.

In the same vein, a great NYT article about climate change in the Outer Banks:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/14/climate/outer-banks-tax-climate-change.html

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens in about 20-25 years when the heat and humidity get so oppressive that people start leaving TX and FL in droves. Might be a good time to invest in places like Detroit, Duluth, and Rochester, NY. Those places may see a future renaissance.

Wishful thinking.

Phoenix has no business existing in the middle of the desert but it does.

The boom cities of the Arabian Gulf are all built in areas of extreme heat and humidity as well. And they're still booming.

Houston is one of the fastest growing cities despite the sheer humidity.

The American South has always been humid. Even DC gets humid. Even parts of the northeast gets humidity. People cope

People would rather take heat and humidity over cold and chills and gloomy winters.

Right? No way in helllll would I live in the NE 7 months of the year. So so depressing.

This made me laugh. I’m typing from the frozen northeast poolside after a great day of skiing. Kids finishing up their s’mores then hopping in the hot tub.

Life is what you make of it.

Some would greatly prefer the variability of seasons over the never end heat and humidity

Since this thread is about Florida, the state doesn't suffer from never ending heat and humidity.

I do like seasonal variations but the winters in the far north east do seem to last forever. I went to college in Rhode Island and it felt like we never saw the sun between November and end of March. Just perpetual gray skies and gray light. My cousin in New Hampshire still gets snow late into April!

If I had money, it'd be coastal New England for the summer and Florida for the winter. Best of both worlds!

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens in about 20-25 years when the heat and humidity get so oppressive that people start leaving TX and FL in droves. Might be a good time to invest in places like Detroit, Duluth, and Rochester, NY. Those places may see a future renaissance.

Wishful thinking.

Phoenix has no business existing in the middle of the desert but it does.

The boom cities of the Arabian Gulf are all built in areas of extreme heat and humidity as well. And they're still booming.

Houston is one of the fastest growing cities despite the sheer humidity.

The American South has always been humid. Even DC gets humid. Even parts of the northeast gets humidity. People cope

People would rather take heat and humidity over cold and chills and gloomy winters.

Right? No way in helllll would I live in the NE 7 months of the year. So so depressing.

This made me laugh. I’m typing from the frozen northeast poolside after a great day of skiing. Kids finishing up their s’mores then hopping in the hot tub.

Life is what you make of it.

Some would greatly prefer the variability of seasons over the never end heat and humidity

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Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens in about 20-25 years when the heat and humidity get so oppressive that people start leaving TX and FL in droves. Might be a good time to invest in places like Detroit, Duluth, and Rochester, NY. Those places may see a future renaissance.

Wishful thinking.

Phoenix has no business existing in the middle of the desert but it does.

The boom cities of the Arabian Gulf are all built in areas of extreme heat and humidity as well. And they're still booming.

Houston is one of the fastest growing cities despite the sheer humidity.

The American South has always been humid. Even DC gets humid. Even parts of the northeast gets humidity. People cope

People would rather take heat and humidity over cold and chills and gloomy winters.

Right? No way in helllll would I live in the NE 7 months of the year. So so depressing.

Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens in about 20-25 years when the heat and humidity get so oppressive that people start leaving TX and FL in droves. Might be a good time to invest in places like Detroit, Duluth, and Rochester, NY. Those places may see a future renaissance.

You first.

Anonymous wrote:When you're old and bitter, people will be living in Florida and having a party.

Add cold to old and bitter.

Anonymous wrote:It will be interesting to see what happens in about 20-25 years when the heat and humidity get so oppressive that people start leaving TX and FL in droves. Might be a good time to invest in places like Detroit, Duluth, and Rochester, NY. Those places may see a future renaissance.

Wishful thinking.

Phoenix has no business existing in the middle of the desert but it does.

The boom cities of the Arabian Gulf are all built in areas of extreme heat and humidity as well. And they're still booming.

Houston is one of the fastest growing cities despite the sheer humidity.

The American South has always been humid. Even DC gets humid. Even parts of the northeast gets humidity. People cope

People would rather take heat and humidity over cold and chills and gloomy winters.

Anonymous wrote:But will taxpayers rescue their bills? Insurance rates are higher, and will only continue to rise. Financial disincentives seems to be happening naturally, although that doesn't appear to dissuade enough people from living there.

No you are thinking about California.

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Anonymous wrote:When you're old and bitter, people will be living in Florida and having a party.

NP. I think over time that living in FLA with hurricanes becoming more frequent & destructive might make you more bitter. Also, living with the crazys.

I’m the Florida PP. We have always had hurricanes. We actually handle them well. [b]Our infrastructure (and our homes) is built to handle even very strong storms. And they are constantly improving it. Unless you live on the coast, it’s unlikely you’ll have significant damage. We’ve lost a few shingles and had some trees down. The screen on our lanai had to be replaced once. That’s about it.

Yes, there are some crazy people. They are amusing. We are kinda proud of our crazy people. 🤣

Lol you can’t even wear a mask during a pandemic…like builders or workers in Florida are going to follow building codes…look at that condo that collapsed.

There was a recent NYTimes article on moving to Texas. According to that article, a good part of TX is not expected to be significantly affected by climate change, and that's where lots of people are moving to.

It will be interesting to see what happens in about 20-25 years when the heat and humidity get so oppressive that people start leaving TX and FL in droves. Might be a good time to invest in places like Detroit, Duluth, and Rochester, NY. Those places may see a future renaissance.

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Anonymous wrote:Everything about whether or not Americans take climate change seriously can be told in the migration southward to Texas and Florida. I get that it’s probably mostly Republicans, covid deniers, and people who only care about low taxes, but it really goes to show how so many people do not think that climate change is a threat. Hope they enjoy the hurricanes and realize that it’s taxpayers that will pay their rescue bills.

Meanwhile, I plan on retiring in northern Maine.

My DH and I, as well as some friends, were just discussing this. I cannot imagine moving to FL or any low lying coastal region. And yes, they'll whine when their houses sink into the ocean and expect to be bailed out by the government.

Dh and I are considering having a place in upstate NY and one in NC.