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Anonymous wrote:SAME OP. I'm about a year into the peloton and this month in particular I've just let go of some of my metrics, which has been hard for me! But yeah, you're right, I'm still working out and feeling good! And it totally still counts. I feel like getting to this point of like, 'every workout doesn't need to be an all out leave me on the floor huffing and puffing effort' is actually a sign of it being a PERMANENT change in my life.

I can't peak forever! But I want to keep exercising forever! I have been confused about people who target zone 3/4 for their primary HR zones while working out because when I'm going, I'm in zone 5 a LOT and mostly in high 4. But lately I've been realizing, but hey, you know what is sustainable as heck? A lot of zone 3 workouts! Now that I've lost a lot of weight and am trying to envision what this all looks like long term I'm cool with the 'moderate workout'. I think its a sign of success!

And LOL at the pp saying its not a good workout, ok, sure.

I guess its a good workout for the average person. But at the more advanced levels of fitness, bike alone is not a workout. It's decent cardio but doesn't burn that many calories. And not a full body workout. It's basically a warm up.

Such an annoying, unhelpful comment! Lots of "real" athletes at "advanced levels of fitness" use peloton (Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, for example). It is an excellent cardio machine and platform, and so if you're trying to get a good cardio workout, you can get a good workout on a Peloton. Obviously, if you're trying to gain huge biceps or have some other non-cardio based goal (or non-cycling based goal), it won't help with that.

That’s my point. Cycling is good cardio and has its place in a well rounded fitness program. My point is bike alone is not going to get you in shape no matter how “hard” you work. Yes, it will improve cardiovascular endurance. When I say in shape, I mean aesthetically. I can’t speak for anyone else but if I’m spending that much time working out I want to *look* like I work out. But I know everyone doesn’t have the same goals.

That is a ridiculous goal and standard for working out frankly. Every single person age 10-80 benefits from some cardio. It will improve their health. Very very very few people statistically are capable of achieving some defined muscular body like you are describing. As someone who has gone from 210 pounds to 160 pounds using this crappy workout program I don’t have big guns but look a helluva lot better and much more importantly I feel a LOT better.

People like you keep people like the old me on the sofa. Fitness is more than a rock hard bod. Kind empathetic humans who aren’t overly focused on their own six pack get this.

Okay I am being a bit overly harsh - my apologies. I respect your journey and thats a great accomplishment.

I am not knocking cardio - I have been a runner for 20 years and love cycling. My only point was that cardio is the be all and end all to getting in shape. Does it have other benefits, absolutely but it has very little impact on losing fat. Cardio burns muscle - basically counterproductive to burning fat. It should be a part of any fitness program, but the real benefits come from getting the proper nutrition and building strength.

For 80% of the people using the peloton it does in fact burn fat and vastly improve their health. These people aren’t already in fitness range for body fat.

Maybe you can tell us how many people your dunked on that were walking at the last turkey trot.

Cardio burns fat but also burns muscle. The less muscle you have the less fat you burn. Hence why people hit that plateau and cant figure out what they're doing wrong.

Jesus looks like the P-hive is out in full effect tonight. Look if you want to do endless amounts of cardio while wondering why you can't reach your fitness goals that's on you. Enjoy.

My distaste for you has nothing to do with the peloton. I’m the 210-160 pp not the immediate one you’re responding to. What I dislike about your post isn’t the peloton digs, it’s the cruel twist of the knife towards a lot of people who are getting out there and doing there best, on a treadmill, on a road, in a gym, on a peloton, whatever, and you’re need to make sure they know they’re not doing enough to “really be in shape” (which is, by the way, vague and arbitrary metric that references and incredibly wide range of meanings).

You yourself basically say that you workout to look good and you don’t understand the point if that isn’t the outcome and that is why you’re hating on cardio.

I actually have added a lot more strength training as I’ve gone along. And semantically I think you underestimate the strength training benefits of cycling at high resistance.. But that’s not the point because again, every person doing some cardio everyday is improving their health even if all they did was walk for a half hour. And your gate keeping on what fitness is helps no one, I guess it helps you feel superior that’s about it.

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Anonymous wrote:SAME OP. I'm about a year into the peloton and this month in particular I've just let go of some of my metrics, which has been hard for me! But yeah, you're right, I'm still working out and feeling good! And it totally still counts. I feel like getting to this point of like, 'every workout doesn't need to be an all out leave me on the floor huffing and puffing effort' is actually a sign of it being a PERMANENT change in my life.

I can't peak forever! But I want to keep exercising forever! I have been confused about people who target zone 3/4 for their primary HR zones while working out because when I'm going, I'm in zone 5 a LOT and mostly in high 4. But lately I've been realizing, but hey, you know what is sustainable as heck? A lot of zone 3 workouts! Now that I've lost a lot of weight and am trying to envision what this all looks like long term I'm cool with the 'moderate workout'. I think its a sign of success!

And LOL at the pp saying its not a good workout, ok, sure.

I guess its a good workout for the average person. But at the more advanced levels of fitness, bike alone is not a workout. It's decent cardio but doesn't burn that many calories. And not a full body workout. It's basically a warm up.

Such an annoying, unhelpful comment! Lots of "real" athletes at "advanced levels of fitness" use peloton (Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, for example). It is an excellent cardio machine and platform, and so if you're trying to get a good cardio workout, you can get a good workout on a Peloton. Obviously, if you're trying to gain huge biceps or have some other non-cardio based goal (or non-cycling based goal), it won't help with that.

That’s my point. Cycling is good cardio and has its place in a well rounded fitness program. My point is bike alone is not going to get you in shape no matter how “hard” you work. Yes, it will improve cardiovascular endurance. When I say in shape, I mean aesthetically. I can’t speak for anyone else but if I’m spending that much time working out I want to *look* like I work out. But I know everyone doesn’t have the same goals.

That is a ridiculous goal and standard for working out frankly. Every single person age 10-80 benefits from some cardio. It will improve their health. Very very very few people statistically are capable of achieving some defined muscular body like you are describing. As someone who has gone from 210 pounds to 160 pounds using this crappy workout program I don’t have big guns but look a helluva lot better and much more importantly I feel a LOT better.

People like you keep people like the old me on the sofa. Fitness is more than a rock hard bod. Kind empathetic humans who aren’t overly focused on their own six pack get this.

Okay I am being a bit overly harsh - my apologies. I respect your journey and thats a great accomplishment.

I am not knocking cardio - I have been a runner for 20 years and love cycling. My only point was that cardio is the be all and end all to getting in shape. Does it have other benefits, absolutely but it has very little impact on losing fat. Cardio burns muscle - basically counterproductive to burning fat. It should be a part of any fitness program, but the real benefits come from getting the proper nutrition and building strength.

For 80% of the people using the peloton it does in fact burn fat and vastly improve their health. These people aren’t already in fitness range for body fat.

Maybe you can tell us how many people your dunked on that were walking at the last turkey trot.

Cardio burns fat but also burns muscle. The less muscle you have the less fat you burn. Hence why people hit that plateau and cant figure out what they're doing wrong.

Jesus looks like the P-hive is out in full effect tonight. Look if you want to do endless amounts of cardio while wondering why you can't reach your fitness goals that's on you. Enjoy.

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Anonymous wrote:SAME OP. I'm about a year into the peloton and this month in particular I've just let go of some of my metrics, which has been hard for me! But yeah, you're right, I'm still working out and feeling good! And it totally still counts. I feel like getting to this point of like, 'every workout doesn't need to be an all out leave me on the floor huffing and puffing effort' is actually a sign of it being a PERMANENT change in my life.

I can't peak forever! But I want to keep exercising forever! I have been confused about people who target zone 3/4 for their primary HR zones while working out because when I'm going, I'm in zone 5 a LOT and mostly in high 4. But lately I've been realizing, but hey, you know what is sustainable as heck? A lot of zone 3 workouts! Now that I've lost a lot of weight and am trying to envision what this all looks like long term I'm cool with the 'moderate workout'. I think its a sign of success!

And LOL at the pp saying its not a good workout, ok, sure.

I guess its a good workout for the average person. But at the more advanced levels of fitness, bike alone is not a workout. It's decent cardio but doesn't burn that many calories. And not a full body workout. It's basically a warm up.

Such an annoying, unhelpful comment! Lots of "real" athletes at "advanced levels of fitness" use peloton (Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, for example). It is an excellent cardio machine and platform, and so if you're trying to get a good cardio workout, you can get a good workout on a Peloton. Obviously, if you're trying to gain huge biceps or have some other non-cardio based goal (or non-cycling based goal), it won't help with that.

That’s my point. Cycling is good cardio and has its place in a well rounded fitness program. My point is bike alone is not going to get you in shape no matter how “hard” you work. Yes, it will improve cardiovascular endurance. When I say in shape, I mean aesthetically. I can’t speak for anyone else but if I’m spending that much time working out I want to *look* like I work out. But I know everyone doesn’t have the same goals.

That is a ridiculous goal and standard for working out frankly. Every single person age 10-80 benefits from some cardio. It will improve their health. Very very very few people statistically are capable of achieving some defined muscular body like you are describing. As someone who has gone from 210 pounds to 160 pounds using this crappy workout program I don’t have big guns but look a helluva lot better and much more importantly I feel a LOT better.

People like you keep people like the old me on the sofa. Fitness is more than a rock hard bod. Kind empathetic humans who aren’t overly focused on their own six pack get this.

Okay I am being a bit overly harsh - my apologies. I respect your journey and thats a great accomplishment.

I am not knocking cardio - I have been a runner for 20 years and love cycling. My only point was that cardio is the be all and end all to getting in shape. Does it have other benefits, absolutely but it has very little impact on losing fat. Cardio burns muscle - basically counterproductive to burning fat. It should be a part of any fitness program, but the real benefits come from getting the proper nutrition and building strength.

For 80% of the people using the peloton it does in fact burn fat and vastly improve their health. These people aren’t already in fitness range for body fat.

Maybe you can tell us how many people your dunked on that were walking at the last turkey trot.

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Anonymous wrote:SAME OP. I'm about a year into the peloton and this month in particular I've just let go of some of my metrics, which has been hard for me! But yeah, you're right, I'm still working out and feeling good! And it totally still counts. I feel like getting to this point of like, 'every workout doesn't need to be an all out leave me on the floor huffing and puffing effort' is actually a sign of it being a PERMANENT change in my life.

I can't peak forever! But I want to keep exercising forever! I have been confused about people who target zone 3/4 for their primary HR zones while working out because when I'm going, I'm in zone 5 a LOT and mostly in high 4. But lately I've been realizing, but hey, you know what is sustainable as heck? A lot of zone 3 workouts! Now that I've lost a lot of weight and am trying to envision what this all looks like long term I'm cool with the 'moderate workout'. I think its a sign of success!

And LOL at the pp saying its not a good workout, ok, sure.

I guess its a good workout for the average person. But at the more advanced levels of fitness, bike alone is not a workout. It's decent cardio but doesn't burn that many calories. And not a full body workout. It's basically a warm up.

Such an annoying, unhelpful comment! Lots of "real" athletes at "advanced levels of fitness" use peloton (Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, for example). It is an excellent cardio machine and platform, and so if you're trying to get a good cardio workout, you can get a good workout on a Peloton. Obviously, if you're trying to gain huge biceps or have some other non-cardio based goal (or non-cycling based goal), it won't help with that.

That’s my point. Cycling is good cardio and has its place in a well rounded fitness program. My point is bike alone is not going to get you in shape no matter how “hard” you work. Yes, it will improve cardiovascular endurance. When I say in shape, I mean aesthetically. I can’t speak for anyone else but if I’m spending that much time working out I want to *look* like I work out. But I know everyone doesn’t have the same goals.

That is a ridiculous goal and standard for working out frankly. Every single person age 10-80 benefits from some cardio. It will improve their health. Very very very few people statistically are capable of achieving some defined muscular body like you are describing. As someone who has gone from 210 pounds to 160 pounds using this crappy workout program I don’t have big guns but look a helluva lot better and much more importantly I feel a LOT better.

People like you keep people like the old me on the sofa. Fitness is more than a rock hard bod. Kind empathetic humans who aren’t overly focused on their own six pack get this.

Okay I am being a bit overly harsh - my apologies. I respect your journey and thats a great accomplishment.

I am not knocking cardio - I have been a runner for 20 years and love cycling. My only point was that cardio is the be all and end all to getting in shape. Does it have other benefits, absolutely but it has very little impact on losing fat. Cardio burns muscle - basically counterproductive to burning fat. It should be a part of any fitness program, but the real benefits come from getting the proper nutrition and building strength.

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Anonymous wrote:SAME OP. I'm about a year into the peloton and this month in particular I've just let go of some of my metrics, which has been hard for me! But yeah, you're right, I'm still working out and feeling good! And it totally still counts. I feel like getting to this point of like, 'every workout doesn't need to be an all out leave me on the floor huffing and puffing effort' is actually a sign of it being a PERMANENT change in my life.

I can't peak forever! But I want to keep exercising forever! I have been confused about people who target zone 3/4 for their primary HR zones while working out because when I'm going, I'm in zone 5 a LOT and mostly in high 4. But lately I've been realizing, but hey, you know what is sustainable as heck? A lot of zone 3 workouts! Now that I've lost a lot of weight and am trying to envision what this all looks like long term I'm cool with the 'moderate workout'. I think its a sign of success!

And LOL at the pp saying its not a good workout, ok, sure.

I guess its a good workout for the average person. But at the more advanced levels of fitness, bike alone is not a workout. It's decent cardio but doesn't burn that many calories. And not a full body workout. It's basically a warm up.

Such an annoying, unhelpful comment! Lots of "real" athletes at "advanced levels of fitness" use peloton (Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, for example). It is an excellent cardio machine and platform, and so if you're trying to get a good cardio workout, you can get a good workout on a Peloton. Obviously, if you're trying to gain huge biceps or have some other non-cardio based goal (or non-cycling based goal), it won't help with that.

That’s my point. Cycling is good cardio and has its place in a well rounded fitness program. My point is bike alone is not going to get you in shape no matter how “hard” you work. Yes, it will improve cardiovascular endurance. When I say in shape, I mean aesthetically. I can’t speak for anyone else but if I’m spending that much time working out I want to *look* like I work out. But I know everyone doesn’t have the same goals.

That is a ridiculous goal and standard for working out frankly. Every single person age 10-80 benefits from some cardio. It will improve their health. Very very very few people statistically are capable of achieving some defined muscular body like you are describing. As someone who has gone from 210 pounds to 160 pounds using this crappy workout program I don’t have big guns but look a helluva lot better and much more importantly I feel a LOT better.

People like you keep people like the old me on the sofa. Fitness is more than a rock hard bod. Kind empathetic humans who aren’t overly focused on their own six pack get this.