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Post 12/09/2021 19:01     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


I see a lot of ECNL kids who have dreams of playing pro migrating to an MLSNext team next year...


I have also heard that Arlington is going to take SYC's spot.


Where is SYC going?


Could go back to CCL, or ECNL-R (would make sense with their merger with McLean)


SYC's got it made. They have MLSNext and their players have the option to play ECNL for the VA Union FC team though it doesn't seem like many SYC'er's moved to play ECNL on the VA Union FC teams.



How many kids have SYC sent to DCU to date?
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 18:55     Subject: Re:MLSNext Pro League announced

Anonymous wrote:If your kid is standout on an SYC, Alexandria, Achilles, etc team you know DCU is eyeing him and will want to bring him over.


DCU want the best 20 or so kids they can find. They really don't care where they come from and the coach scouts ECNL games too. The old coach was even spotted at Bolivian league games last year.

There's nothing wrong with MLS Next, but you need to stop trying to pretend it has advantages which it doesn't.
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Post 12/09/2021 18:50     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


I see a lot of ECNL kids who have dreams of playing pro migrating to an MLSNext team next year...


I don't follow this logic. Moving from Loudoun to SYC isn't going to be a pathway to MLS Next Pro. These teams will be for the better kids from the MLS club's own youth academy + other young pros they want to take a look at. Kids from the local MLS Next clubs have no greater chance of playing MLS Next Pro than the same kid on an ECNL team.
Of course, you'd want to get on one of the MLSNext teams that have the MLSNext Pro league. All of the local MLSNext teams are feeders to DCU and that's the path to take since DCU will have MLSNext Pro next year.


The local MLSNext teams are no more feeders to DCU than the ECNL teams. What little formal feeder system there is (P2P), consists of five or six teams most of which are ECNL teams. In practise of course DCU takes kids from wherever it finds them. Last year for example, DCU took many more kids from ECNL teams than MLS Next teams, and there are several kids who came from neither.
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Post 12/09/2021 17:16     Subject: Re:MLSNext Pro League announced

Anonymous wrote:If your kid is standout on an SYC, Alexandria, Achilles, etc team you know DCU is eyeing him and will want to bring him over.
Don't forget Bethesda.
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Post 12/09/2021 17:16     Subject: Re:MLSNext Pro League announced

If your kid is standout on an SYC, Alexandria, Achilles, etc team you know DCU is eyeing him and will want to bring him over.
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Post 12/09/2021 17:14     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


I see a lot of ECNL kids who have dreams of playing pro migrating to an MLSNext team next year...


I don't follow this logic. Moving from Loudoun to SYC isn't going to be a pathway to MLS Next Pro. These teams will be for the better kids from the MLS club's own youth academy + other young pros they want to take a look at. Kids from the local MLS Next clubs have no greater chance of playing MLS Next Pro than the same kid on an ECNL team.
Of course, you'd want to get on one of the MLSNext teams that have the MLSNext Pro league. All of the local MLSNext teams are feeders to DCU and that's the path to take since DCU will have MLSNext Pro next year.
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Post 12/09/2021 17:10     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


I see a lot of ECNL kids who have dreams of playing pro migrating to an MLSNext team next year...


I have also heard that Arlington is going to take SYC's spot.


Where is SYC going?


Could go back to CCL, or ECNL-R (would make sense with their merger with McLean)


SYC's got it made. They have MLSNext and their players have the option to play ECNL for the VA Union FC team though it doesn't seem like many SYC'er's moved to play ECNL on the VA Union FC teams.

Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 17:10     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


I see a lot of ECNL kids who have dreams of playing pro migrating to an MLSNext team next year...


I don't follow this logic. Moving from Loudoun to SYC isn't going to be a pathway to MLS Next Pro. These teams will be for the better kids from the MLS club's own youth academy + other young pros they want to take a look at. Kids from the local MLS Next clubs have no greater chance of playing MLS Next Pro than the same kid on an ECNL team.
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Post 12/09/2021 16:01     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


I see a lot of ECNL kids who have dreams of playing pro migrating to an MLSNext team next year...


I have also heard that Arlington is going to take SYC's spot.


Where is SYC going?


Could go back to CCL, or ECNL-R (would make sense with their merger with McLean)
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 15:58     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


I see a lot of ECNL kids who have dreams of playing pro migrating to an MLSNext team next year...


I have also heard that Arlington is going to take SYC's spot.


Where is SYC going?
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 15:55     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


I see a lot of ECNL kids who have dreams of playing pro migrating to an MLSNext team next year...


I have also heard that Arlington is going to take SYC's spot.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 15:38     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


I see a lot of ECNL kids who have dreams of playing pro migrating to an MLSNext team next year...
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 14:19     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.


That is an interesting take on it and makes sense. Kind of like a clear separation between club and high school soccer. in fact, MLSNext does not allow you to play for your high school team unless you are getting any type of scholarship because of it (Baltimore is a big HS soccer area and the rule was probably put in place for areas like that) .
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 14:05     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are trying to own the whole US market. USL must be very concerned

https://www.mlsnextpro.com/



I don’t think USL is concerned. The MLS reserve teams draw a few hundred fans per game and don’t offer consistent competition to the other clubs. They were helpful in elevating USL when the NASL folded and helped serve each other’s needs, but USL has sufficient teams nationwide to have two strong divisions without the MLS reserves.


Maybe MLS got sick of their 16-20 year olds consistently being beaten by teams with 30 year olds in the USL.


I think this goes both ways. USL wanting more competition for its teams, MLS wanting a space for their players coming up to play. The group that will lose out the most is NCAA. This will now provide a pathway to skip out on college, get into a pro system and earn some money while still not being thrown into the deep end.


Hmmm. Not so sure it will have a impact on NCAA. A kid might forgo a subsidized college degree to play MLS. But to play MLS Next Pro? I doubt there will be many kids willing to forgo college for whatever pittance that league will pay.


This is not about college. European clubs view of US soccer has changed. MLS is a selling league and you need a pool to continue that. The big names like Pepi will earn MLS 12-15 million but there is money to be made below that level. College is amateurs hour. Look for a clear separation of paths between pro or college on the men’s side. The girls side will continue to sell “playing in college” dream but the boys will be about playing on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 13:13     Subject: MLSNext Pro League announced

Homegrown players earn league minimum which is ~$63k.

I recall some homegrown players also receiving education expenses.

So yes, you will see more players skip D1 soccer in exchange for a pro developmental contracts that keep them in a professional training environment and allow them to still take classes.