Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:22     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

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Anonymous wrote:Most have OVER a 4.0. AP classes are weighted higher. W-L had 260+ valedictorians last year (in a class of 500ish). Valedictorian being anything over a 4.0.

Sorry to burst the bubble of the cheater posters.


Is this true? Good grief.



Well they still could have cheated…
And I thought Valedictorian was an individual with highest GPA - 1 person?


That is the typical way the title is used but the school can make it want they want I suppose. But it does not mean much if they slap it on half the graduating class.


Yes but who will know they use this non common definition?


Well, regional college admissions reps know for one. They know these large high schools in their territory very, very well. They know that valedictorian at high school A means something and the title at high school B means nothing because it's given to 40% of the graduating class.


Can anyone claiming that vast proportions of schools have students with 4.0s name even a single school that does this?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:21     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most have OVER a 4.0. AP classes are weighted higher. W-L had 260+ valedictorians last year (in a class of 500ish). Valedictorian being anything over a 4.0.

Sorry to burst the bubble of the cheater posters.


Is this true? Good grief.



Well they still could have cheated…
And I thought Valedictorian was an individual with highest GPA - 1 person?


That is the typical way the title is used but the school can make it want they want I suppose. But it does not mean much if they slap it on half the graduating class.


Yes but who will know they use this non common definition?


I would think graduate programs would know if a college makes half of every graduating class "valedictorians". And who else would care about this designation?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:20     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most have OVER a 4.0. AP classes are weighted higher. W-L had 260+ valedictorians last year (in a class of 500ish). Valedictorian being anything over a 4.0.

Sorry to burst the bubble of the cheater posters.


Is this true? Good grief.



Well they still could have cheated…
And I thought Valedictorian was an individual with highest GPA - 1 person?


That is the typical way the title is used but the school can make it want they want I suppose. But it does not mean much if they slap it on half the graduating class.


Yes but who will know they use this non common definition?


Well, regional college admissions reps know for one. They know these large high schools in their territory very, very well. They know that valedictorian at high school A means something and the title at high school B means nothing because it's given to 40% of the graduating class.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:18     Subject: Re:Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

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It’s because they’re cheating.

My class has scores 20% above what they were before COVID. I thought the cheating would get better when we returned but the kids are still using their group chats. I’m not allowed to take their phones away and the administration doesn’t back me up when I catch them cheating.

- Teacher


This is so unfair to kids who don’t cheat. My son has a difficult science class first period and kids are take screenshots or pictures of the exam during the test. Then they are sharing them with kids who have the class later in the day. My son has been pressured to do the same but refuses. He lost a friend over it who wanted him to get the test question and his friend who give him the math questions since that kid had math earlier in the day. How are teachers not realizing the class average is increasing as the day progresses?


Why would kids help others cheat? I don't get this. The other kids in their grade are their direct competition for college admits. Cheating really harms the ones supplying the test/answers.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:18     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most have OVER a 4.0. AP classes are weighted higher. W-L had 260+ valedictorians last year (in a class of 500ish). Valedictorian being anything over a 4.0.

Sorry to burst the bubble of the cheater posters.


Is this true? Good grief.



Well they still could have cheated…
And I thought Valedictorian was an individual with highest GPA - 1 person?


That is the typical way the title is used but the school can make it want they want I suppose. But it does not mean much if they slap it on half the graduating class.


Yes but who will know they use this non common definition?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:17     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:17     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most have OVER a 4.0. AP classes are weighted higher. W-L had 260+ valedictorians last year (in a class of 500ish). Valedictorian being anything over a 4.0.

Sorry to burst the bubble of the cheater posters.


Is this true? Good grief.



Well they still could have cheated…
And I thought Valedictorian was an individual with highest GPA - 1 person?


That is the typical way the title is used but the school can make it want they want I suppose. But it does not mean much if they slap it on half the graduating class.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:15     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most have OVER a 4.0. AP classes are weighted higher. W-L had 260+ valedictorians last year (in a class of 500ish). Valedictorian being anything over a 4.0.

Sorry to burst the bubble of the cheater posters.


Is this true? Good grief.



Well they still could have cheated…
And I thought Valedictorian was an individual with highest GPA - 1 person?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:14     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous wrote:Most have OVER a 4.0. AP classes are weighted higher. W-L had 260+ valedictorians last year (in a class of 500ish). Valedictorian being anything over a 4.0.

Sorry to burst the bubble of the cheater posters.


Is this true? Good grief.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:08     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Rank* the kids.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:08     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous wrote:https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2017/07/17/study-finds-notable-increase-grades-high-schools-nationally


I was able to get a class rank by asking even though the HS did not officially tank the kids. I suggest doing this if it benefits your student.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:08     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:My kids are doomed.


Ridiculous...this is HS math and science. It is perfectly possible for a student to actually learn the material and perform on an exam without cheating. That is the way to go or they are screwed when they get out of HS and actually have to know how to learn, analyze and communicate.


My kids are the ones who don't have 4.0s, have learned the material in the hardest possible classes in spite of the imperfect grades, and so are doomed because apparently everyone else has a 4.0, and it turns out that these days, GPA is all that matters in admissions. They don't care what you learned, just what your numbers are.



This is how I feel. My kids have "all the grades" ... As, Bs, and they've gotten a couple of Cs. I have a very hard time believing that so many kids legitimately earn straight As.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:05     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Most have OVER a 4.0. AP classes are weighted higher. W-L had 260+ valedictorians last year (in a class of 500ish). Valedictorian being anything over a 4.0.

Sorry to burst the bubble of the cheater posters.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:03     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous
Post 12/07/2021 09:02     Subject: Someone posted 50 percent of HS Seniors have a 4.0?!

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids are doomed.


Ridiculous...this is HS math and science. It is perfectly possible for a student to actually learn the material and perform on an exam without cheating. That is the way to go or they are screwed when they get out of HS and actually have to know how to learn, analyze and communicate.


My kids are the ones who don't have 4.0s, have learned the material in the hardest possible classes in spite of the imperfect grades, and so are doomed because apparently everyone else has a 4.0, and it turns out that these days, GPA is all that matters in admissions. They don't care what you learned, just what your numbers are.


Suit yourself. You student is actually educated and that will pay off in college. There is lots of yammerering on here about this the hardest thing about college is getting in but my college students are not finding that to be the case at all. They are being rewarded now for skills gained in HS.