Anonymous
12/06/2021 10:30
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you plan on never seeing your parents again? Because COVID is not going to go away.
If you and your kids are vaccinated I would find a way to make the visit feasible.
And I say this as someone who is fully vaccinated and works in healthcare.
+1
I wish they’d show the data in how many vaxxed people are testing positive now. It’s significant. I’m in Hr and we talk, I also lias with the Dzc area private schools on data and the last week was rough. Nothing terrible spike wise but it was all vaxxed adults and teens.
Efficacy like a flu shot, not always a great.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 09:45
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
There is no way to not cause an uproar, mainly because you are canceling so late. That’s NOT to say that your decision isn’t understandable given your clarification that your children aren’t yet vaccinated. But it’s just realistic. There’s no magic words you can say that aren’t going to make this into a drama. Unfortunately. If you want my advice, I’d stay away from saying it’s about their vax status IF you are willing to try again in the summer or when case rates are lower, and also because it doesn’t seem like it IS just about them, but also about other family members also gathering with you indoors.
Release yourself from the worry about how this is going to be smoothed over and make the decision based on what’s best for your husband and children, and trust that the rest will work itself out.
Release yourself from the worry about how this is going to be smoothed over and make the decision based on what’s best for your husband and children, and trust that the rest will work itself out.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 09:41
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. First, my kids are not vaccinated, which is the main issue. I have a 2 year old, 4 year old and 7 year old (who will only have one shot but better than nothing). I am getting my booster on December 20 and DH hasn’t gotten his yet since he wasn’t fully vaxxed until July so it hasn’t been 6 months.
We could ask them to take a PCR test but we would be there for 10 days and given that my mom goes to the grocery store and a million other places daily pretty much daily unmasked, she could just as easily bring it home. The week will also be spent at tons of large indoor family gatherings which I am also not sure how I feel about.
I know this is not going away, but I wish we would have gone to see them when case counts were lower vs on an upswing.
What is the vax status of all these people? Do you know?
Anonymous
12/06/2021 09:40
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand this point of view. I know everyone hates - and I understand how obnoxious it is, I really do! - the “my parents are dead and I’d do anything to see them” posters, but seriously, think about it. You’re refusing to see them to prove a point, not because you’re really scared. You and your kids are probably around unvaccinated people all the time.
They’ve been brainwashed into acting against their and everyone else’s best interests, but if you are vaccinated you should not let their lack of critical thinking skills ruin your relationships forever. If you are triple vaxxed, you should visit them because it’s safe for you. If they had suffered brain damage and couldn’t take care of themselves, would you refuse to see them then? Of course not, you’d feel sorry for them.
I know you are posting here so you can get all the DCUM “attagirls!” and “way to gos!” But I think you are cutting off your nose to spite your face, and you should go see your parents who love you and whom you probably love, despite their stupidity.
NP, but it didn’t get vaccinated for me. I’m in a low risk age group, healthy, and have no risk factors. I got vaccinated because of the people I care about. Vaccines don’t prevent COVID. They help prevent the spread, and make it less severe, and if I can be a wall of less transmission, that’s my responsibility as a person who cares about others.
I personally don’t want to surround myself with people who don’t care about others. “Everyone’s best interests” is actually about about everyone, not just yourself. A brain injury form being an idiot only hurts you - being a willing COVID carrier affects everyone in the community, so your argument fails. I can’t catch your Brian injury. It’s not even about not wearing a seatbelt. How do you feel about the decision to drink and drive while not wearing a seatbelt?
With all due respect, you already are. Unless you are still home bound, you are interacting with unvaccinated people every day, and that includes people who are not vaccinated against things other than covid that can affect you.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 09:15
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. First, my kids are not vaccinated, which is the main issue. I have a 2 year old, 4 year old and 7 year old (who will only have one shot but better than nothing). I am getting my booster on December 20 and DH hasn’t gotten his yet since he wasn’t fully vaxxed until July so it hasn’t been 6 months.
We could ask them to take a PCR test but we would be there for 10 days and given that my mom goes to the grocery store and a million other places daily pretty much daily unmasked, she could just as easily bring it home. The week will also be spent at tons of large indoor family gatherings which I am also not sure how I feel about.
I know this is not going away, but I wish we would have gone to see them when case counts were lower vs on an upswing.
You should cancel the Christmas trip. Plan to go in the summer when you can spend more time outdoors and cases will likely be down again.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 09:12
Subject: Re:Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
With the ages of your children, I wouldn’t- not out of fear of covid but how disruptive it would be on your life if your kids got covid (whether I think it should be so disruptive is a different story but it is what it is). Grandma can put on her big girl pants and get vaccinated if she wants to see them. It’s absurd. These anti vaxxers are so concerned about what’s in the vaccine but when they’re in the ICU all bets are off and whatever experimental drugs are going to save them are fine. All of which could have been avoided by a trip to cvs
Anonymous
12/06/2021 09:02
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand this point of view. I know everyone hates - and I understand how obnoxious it is, I really do! - the “my parents are dead and I’d do anything to see them” posters, but seriously, think about it. You’re refusing to see them to prove a point, not because you’re really scared. You and your kids are probably around unvaccinated people all the time.
They’ve been brainwashed into acting against their and everyone else’s best interests, but if you are vaccinated you should not let their lack of critical thinking skills ruin your relationships forever. If you are triple vaxxed, you should visit them because it’s safe for you. If they had suffered brain damage and couldn’t take care of themselves, would you refuse to see them then? Of course not, you’d feel sorry for them.
I know you are posting here so you can get all the DCUM “attagirls!” and “way to gos!” But I think you are cutting off your nose to spite your face, and you should go see your parents who love you and whom you probably love, despite their stupidity.
NP, but it didn’t get vaccinated for me. I’m in a low risk age group, healthy, and have no risk factors. I got vaccinated because of the people I care about. Vaccines don’t prevent COVID. They help prevent the spread, and make it less severe, and if I can be a wall of less transmission, that’s my responsibility as a person who cares about others.
I personally don’t want to surround myself with people who don’t care about others. “Everyone’s best interests” is actually about about everyone, not just yourself. A brain injury form being an idiot only hurts you - being a willing COVID carrier affects everyone in the community, so your argument fails. I can’t catch your Brian injury. It’s not even about not wearing a seatbelt. How do you feel about the decision to drink and drive while not wearing a seatbelt?
Anonymous
12/06/2021 08:17
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Thanks everyone. First, my kids are not vaccinated, which is the main issue. I have a 2 year old, 4 year old and 7 year old (who will only have one shot but better than nothing). I am getting my booster on December 20 and DH hasn’t gotten his yet since he wasn’t fully vaxxed until July so it hasn’t been 6 months.
We could ask them to take a PCR test but we would be there for 10 days and given that my mom goes to the grocery store and a million other places daily pretty much daily unmasked, she could just as easily bring it home. The week will also be spent at tons of large indoor family gatherings which I am also not sure how I feel about.
I know this is not going away, but I wish we would have gone to see them when case counts were lower vs on an upswing.
We could ask them to take a PCR test but we would be there for 10 days and given that my mom goes to the grocery store and a million other places daily pretty much daily unmasked, she could just as easily bring it home. The week will also be spent at tons of large indoor family gatherings which I am also not sure how I feel about.
I know this is not going away, but I wish we would have gone to see them when case counts were lower vs on an upswing.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 07:04
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:I agree. The unvaccinated have made their choice. Live your life. If your kids are in school, if you go to work, if you go to a store, anyplace in public, you are encountering the unvaccinated everywhere you go. COVID is here to stay, so I’d see my parents.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you plan on never seeing your parents again? Because COVID is not going to go away.
If you and your kids are vaccinated I would find a way to make the visit feasible.
And I say this as someone who is fully vaccinated and works in healthcare.
+1
+3. Insist on covid testing first - preferably PCR with isolation until the test results come in, but rapid test would be another option.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 07:00
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
I agree. The unvaccinated have made their choice. Live your life. If your kids are in school, if you go to work, if you go to a store, anyplace in public, you are encountering the unvaccinated everywhere you go. COVID is here to stay, so I’d see my parents.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do you plan on never seeing your parents again? Because COVID is not going to go away.
If you and your kids are vaccinated I would find a way to make the visit feasible.
And I say this as someone who is fully vaccinated and works in healthcare.
+1
Anonymous
12/06/2021 05:41
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:Do you plan on never seeing your parents again? Because COVID is not going to go away.
If you and your kids are vaccinated I would find a way to make the visit feasible.
And I say this as someone who is fully vaccinated and works in healthcare.
+1
Anonymous
12/06/2021 05:38
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
I just don’t understand this point of view. I know everyone hates - and I understand how obnoxious it is, I really do! - the “my parents are dead and I’d do anything to see them” posters, but seriously, think about it. You’re refusing to see them to prove a point, not because you’re really scared. You and your kids are probably around unvaccinated people all the time.
They’ve been brainwashed into acting against their and everyone else’s best interests, but if you are vaccinated you should not let their lack of critical thinking skills ruin your relationships forever. If you are triple vaxxed, you should visit them because it’s safe for you. If they had suffered brain damage and couldn’t take care of themselves, would you refuse to see them then? Of course not, you’d feel sorry for them.
I know you are posting here so you can get all the DCUM “attagirls!” and “way to gos!” But I think you are cutting off your nose to spite your face, and you should go see your parents who love you and whom you probably love, despite their stupidity.
They’ve been brainwashed into acting against their and everyone else’s best interests, but if you are vaccinated you should not let their lack of critical thinking skills ruin your relationships forever. If you are triple vaxxed, you should visit them because it’s safe for you. If they had suffered brain damage and couldn’t take care of themselves, would you refuse to see them then? Of course not, you’d feel sorry for them.
I know you are posting here so you can get all the DCUM “attagirls!” and “way to gos!” But I think you are cutting off your nose to spite your face, and you should go see your parents who love you and whom you probably love, despite their stupidity.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 05:18
Subject: Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
If the vaccines work and you are vaccinated why are you not visiting your unvaccinated parents? You are more of a threat to them than they are to you. Geez, the vaccine cult is out of control.
You know Israel is already going with a fourth booster to remain fully vaccinated, when is this darse going to end?
You know Israel is already going with a fourth booster to remain fully vaccinated, when is this darse going to end?
Anonymous
12/06/2021 01:46
Subject: Re:Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Nope it’s not excommunication. If they choose to be unvaccinated then they need to deal with the consequences which are being limited in what you can do or who visits you. If your anti vax conspiracy theories are more important than your family you have a lot of problems.
Being unvaccinated is like being a drunk driver. You are free to get drunk but you are not free to drive and potentially harm someone.
Being unvaccinated is like being a drunk driver. You are free to get drunk but you are not free to drive and potentially harm someone.
Anonymous
12/06/2021 00:50
Subject: Re:Cancelling trip to see unvaxxed parents
Anonymous wrote:No actions have consequences. No vist.
Natural consequences are one thing (getting sick/dying from COVID). What you’re suggesting is akin to religious excommunication. - vaxxed