Anonymous wrote:I don’t care if you go to Disney. I’m not coming into your house within a week of your return.

Let me clarify. I have a good sense of community spread in my neighborhood, my kids schools, kids’ sports teams and activities. Two years in, I have a decent sense which families are cautious and which are reckless. I would probably attend an indoor party at a neighbor’s house right now - but if I arrived and you or a guest had just come back from an out of state vacation - airplane, hotel, restaurants, etc. - I would be annoyed. Not because of the risk per se, but because you didn’t allow me to calculate what that risk meant to me and make a decision. Once I am at the party, it’s pretty awkward to walk out.

I don’t care if you go to Disney. I’m not coming into your house within a week of your return.

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Anonymous wrote:The people who would avoid you for traveling, aren’t going to holiday parties anyway. Don’t worry about it.

Florida is safer than the rest of the US right now lmao

Covid rates are lower in Orlando than in Fairfax county. Go figure.

I know many friends whose kids have had to quarantine. Some schools have multiple classes out. One covid positive family can really screw a school with siblings.

The weather is a lot warmer and many probably already had covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Are people still avoiding people who go away?

I would like to have a small holiday party. We are going to Disney world. Not sure if people will want to avoid us.

We were ultra careful for a year. Then adults got vaccinated. 2 of my 3 kids are now vaccinated. DH and I have our boosters.

Yes, I'm avoiding people like you who are traveling and having parties You aren't being ultra careful if you are going to Disney and parties and other stuff. That isn't even careful.

Have your party. Most will go, some of us would not.

I said I was ultra careful for a year. We basically didn’t socialize and spent all our time outside, didn’t eat out, etc.

It has been 21 months. We started socializing since the spring in small groups outside.

We can just wait until 2022. I won’t have the holiday party.

If you want to have a party and feel its safe, then go ahead. You need to talk to the people you are inviting, not people you aren't inviting. If you are going to Disney, you are throwing cautious out the window so you might as wall.

Obviously it depends what kind of travel.

We went to visit our elderly parents in Europe this summer. We wore N95 masks, hardly ate or drank during the flight, isolated in an AirBnB for 4 days after landing, and waited to test negative after that to ensure we were not bringing Covid to our vulnerable relatives. Our youngest child was not vaccinated.

Upon our return, we made sure to isolate and test again so as not to contaminate any of our close colleagues or friends (most of whom we only see outside anyway).

There are people who don't take any precautions while living at home, OP, and others who will make sure to take maximum precautions even when going out and about.

Travel is not a good indicator of Covid-risk-taking.

OP, make your plans! Those who won't go, won't. We're vaccinated and got our boosters. We're not staying in for the rest of our lives. We've been invited go 4 indoor parties this month and are going to all of them.

OP just make your plans!

Some people will come and others won't and that's fine.

Yes, I’m sorry but we wouldn’t accept your invitation. We have two young children (4 and 2) and even the older child’s preschool doesn’t allow any kid who’s traveled back in school for 10 days and two covid tests.

Anonymous wrote:The people who would avoid you for traveling, aren’t going to holiday parties anyway. Don’t worry about it.

Florida is safer than the rest of the US right now lmao

Covid rates are lower in Orlando than in Fairfax county. Go figure.

I know many friends whose kids have had to quarantine. Some schools have multiple classes out. One covid positive family can really screw a school with siblings.

The people who would avoid you for traveling, aren’t going to holiday parties anyway. Don’t worry about it.

Florida is safer than the rest of the US right now lmao

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Anonymous wrote:Are people still avoiding people who go away?

I would like to have a small holiday party. We are going to Disney world. Not sure if people will want to avoid us.

We were ultra careful for a year. Then adults got vaccinated. 2 of my 3 kids are now vaccinated. DH and I have our boosters.

Yes, I'm avoiding people like you who are traveling and having parties You aren't being ultra careful if you are going to Disney and parties and other stuff. That isn't even careful.

Have your party. Most will go, some of us would not.

I said I was ultra careful for a year. We basically didn’t socialize and spent all our time outside, didn’t eat out, etc.

It has been 21 months. We started socializing since the spring in small groups outside.

We can just wait until 2022. I won’t have the holiday party.

OP - ignore the trolls. Look - covid is here to stay. At some point we have to get back to normal. Having a holiday party if you and your whole family is vaxxed is an entirely reasonable thing to do. going away is also an entirely reasonable thing to do (but note that disney WILL be full of anti vaxxers vs other destinations) that doesnt mean you haven't been careful. It means you recognize that covid is here to stay and it is deleterious to your mental health to continue to avoid something you are vaccinated against and completely virus proof your life. there is no 'right' or 'wrong' there is your comfort level with the idea of catching it, knowing that if your family is fairly healthy and you are vaxxed and boosted that you will in all likelihood have a mild course of illness. there's a kind of weird vibe in america at the moment of like - covid shaming - and it's just silly. it's endemic now and vaccines are avail so figure out what makes sense for your level of comfort and do it

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Anonymous wrote:Are people still avoiding people who go away?

I would like to have a small holiday party. We are going to Disney world. Not sure if people will want to avoid us.

We were ultra careful for a year. Then adults got vaccinated. 2 of my 3 kids are now vaccinated. DH and I have our boosters.

Yes, I'm avoiding people like you who are traveling and having parties You aren't being ultra careful if you are going to Disney and parties and other stuff. That isn't even careful.

Have your party. Most will go, some of us would not.

I said I was ultra careful for a year. We basically didn’t socialize and spent all our time outside, didn’t eat out, etc.

It has been 21 months. We started socializing since the spring in small groups outside.

We can just wait until 2022. I won’t have the holiday party.

Anonymous wrote:I teach all day l g in a school filled with unvaccinated kids.

I don’t know why travel is more of a risk than that?

Because everyone is masked in school. Not the case when traveling.

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Anonymous wrote:No, I wouldn't want to come to an indoor party with you after your Disney trip and before my family get togethers. At this stage I am prioritizing seeing my own family for the holidays and trying to minimize the chance that we may pick up or spread something at those gatherings. So, I won't be going to friend or work parties or doing much hanging out until Christmas when we'll go see extended family for a long period of time.

In general travel doesn't bug me, but Disney with unvaccinated kids does bug me.

This. No parties or hangouts etc. until after we see the one relative we will see at the holidays, who is super cautious like we are. It's not being mean or judgy, it's being careful.

And I'm assuming OP wasn't thinking about the existence of the omicron variant of covid which is already in the US. By the time it gets tracked it's already established, like delta variant was, and it's (as far as we know right now) potentially far more easily spread than either "original" covid or delta variant. Sure, we don't know for sure yet, but that makes me even more cautious about travel. Especially travel to a place like Disney, with so many unvaxxed kids and, I have to figure, many unvaxxed adults too, and possibly the only mask-wearing in Fla. That's my take, OP, but if your family is religious about masking you could be fine with it. My concern would be unvaxxed kids who might not always mask properly;the adults likely would be OK.

Stop saying you are super cautious when you aren't at all. You don't even get what super cautious is.

Anonymous wrote:Are people still avoiding people who go away?

I would like to have a small holiday party. We are going to Disney world. Not sure if people will want to avoid us.

We were ultra careful for a year. Then adults got vaccinated. 2 of my 3 kids are now vaccinated. DH and I have our boosters.

Yes, I'm avoiding people like you who are traveling and having parties You aren't being ultra careful if you are going to Disney and parties and other stuff. That isn't even careful.

Have your party. Most will go, some of us would not.